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stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Captain bummer here:

Most people if this were a guy, would immediately call this out as toxic, manipulative, and abusive behavior

I’ll err on the side of optimism and assume this was just a joke pic, but I did want to shed light on the fact that fucking with your partners food without their knowledge and consent is abusive and manipulative.

HappycamperNZ ,

Thanks Capt’n.

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Toot toot!

rekabis ,

The litmus test of determining if there is bigotry involved is to change the terms in contention. If it is bigoted in one direction, it is fundamentally bigoted in both.

You hit the nail on the head when you posited “if this was a guy doing it to his girlfriend” it would be toxic, manipulative, and abusive.

Let’s make misandry as unacceptable as misogyny. Because true equality will be impossible until we do.

MBM ,

Most people if this were a guy, would immediately call this out as toxic, manipulative, and abusive behavior

…is anyone implying that this is fine, if it wasn’t a joke?

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

Silence is complacency and, therefore, just as problematic.

Doesn’t have to be explicitly stated.

Riven ,
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So it’s been sort of a joke that my current fiancee and my ex both didn’t want me to lose weight because they think I look hot chubby. Both have said that they would leave me if I ever did get skinny. As a joke of course, so I assume this is a joke too.

teft ,
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Butter aint gonna do shit. Add sugar to everything he eats. That will pack the pounds on.

devfuuu ,

American recipes in a nutshell.

Senseless ,

Corn syrup!

weeeeum ,

*french

Lux ,

American recipes in a French.

Noodle07 ,

Nope, French cuisine secret ingredient is butter

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    teft ,
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    There are more calories sure but he’s going to be full from eating fatty pasta. Feeding him sugar is going to put his glycemic response into overdrive and make him hungry again in a few hours.

    Luccus , (edited )
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    Fats are quite difficult for the body to break down. But carbs, especially sugars, are really easy to digest. If one eats a lot of fat, it may actually make its way out unchanged.*

    *I’m not a nutritionist, I just drank 250ml of olive oil after loosing a bet.

    earlgrey0 ,

    Ok, I am going to need more details about this played out. I am morbidly curious about what that much olive oil does to one’s insides and how bad of a stomach ache that was. Also, how fast can a person actually consume that much olive oil? Is it possible to attempt to chug it or is it too viscous? I have so many questions!

    WoahWoah ,

    I did something similar on a long backpacking trip. I brought olive oil in a plastic bottle which I had chopped some small peppers into so I could add fat/ calories/flavor to backpacking food. On day eight, two days before we were hiking out, I was out of trail snacks, so I finished off the plastic bottle of oil because I was super hungry. It had about 200ml of oil in it I would say, so I just drank it, figuring what the hell, I need some calories.

    I had stomach cramps so bad I couldn’t walk, I had to lie down. My backpacking partner had to put up my hammock for me, and after lying there in excruciating pain for about 90min, I then shit everything out of my stomach and bowels, which also hurt. Felt a little better but still had bad cramps. All in all, probably three hours of misery. We lost a whole afternoon of hiking, basically by the time I was ok again, we got about 2mi down trail for a better camp spot and just called it a day.

    10/10 would recommend.

    chamomile ,
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    @WoahWoah Not to be the obnoxious didact in the room but I do feel compelled to point out that vegetables/herbs soaked in oil at room temp are generally not a good idea unless you like botulism poisoning: https://extension.oregonstate.edu/food/preservation/herbs-vegetables-oil-sp-50-701

    Just for anyone who's not aware! Honestly, immediately shitting yourself was not even close to the worst possible outcome lol.

    WoahWoah , (edited )

    The peppers were pickled and then I chopped them up and added them. The pickling is really why they add flavor.

    I regularly pickle my own peppers (and make my own fermented hot sauce), so I imagine that made a difference in terms of botulism. Still, good to know and thanks for the info.

    Luccus ,
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    Maybe a bit late, but the worst thing about it was the texture while drinking and… wiping… because oil really needs soap to come off.

    But other than that, it was pretty uneventful. But I also have a pretty non-problematic stomach that rarely complains.

    earlgrey0 ,

    Respect that you took the time to reply, even if it’s late. I had a feeling the texture of oil would be better problematic, but wasn’t expecting it to cause issues on both ends.

    cm0002 ,

    It’s not all about the calories. It’s true butter is dense in calories, but it’s dense in calories your body will convert the bulk of into useful things it needs.

    Sugar OTOH, also adds a lot of calories, but your body will only use a small portion of it and convert the rest to fat for later use.

    For nearly all of human evolution, sugar was a rarity and your body treated it as such, the wide access we have to sugar nowadays has only been a thing for a tiny blip of time as far as evolution is concerned

    zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

    Everybody’s talking about carbs vs fat but nobody’s talking about how insecure and abusive this is.

    ArachnidMania ,

    That’s the joke to the meme. Don’t think it requires much discussion. I would hope people would look at this and know it’s satirical/obviously abusive.

    AstridWipenaugh ,

    Yes, that’s the joke. But partner abuse isn’t a funny punchline.

    masterbaexunn ,

    Fucking plain ass spaghet? I hope he has something on the side.

    Riven ,
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    It does say meal prep, maybe he adds the sauce the day he’s gonna eat it. Otherwise it might get extra soggy just sitting there absorbing the sauce. He could also keep various proteins prepped in other containers and he cna just mix and match based on what he’s feeling.

    masterbaexunn ,

    I meant about the gf. She’s a POS

    Spendrill ,

    The butter won’t make him fat but the pasta will.

    themeatbridge ,

    Calories in/calories out. Butter is fat and some sugar and protein. Pasta is mostly carbs. But they all become calories, and if you eat more calories than you burn, they will be stored as fat.

    The poster above is correct thay sugar is the easiest for your body to turn into calories, and carbs are basically complex sugars. Fat is also fairly easy for your body to convert to calories, and it is usually more dense. Protein is the hardest, but even protein will make you fat if you eat enough of it.

    If you want to lose weight, burn more calories than you consume. Everything else is nuance.

    Nikls94 ,

    As someone who’s quit sugar and vegetable oils: this food will have more calories with the butter, but it will keep full for longer

    Telodzrum ,

    If you want to lose weight, burn more calories than you consume. Everything else is nuance.

    The dumbing down of nutritional science and metabolic understanding so we can teach high schoolers a “health” class has resulted in disastrous knock-on effects from which it will take decades for the human body to recover.

    molten ,

    What? This isn’t suggested or taught in any high school curriculum I know of. Not only that but it is technically true and most people who actually diet do more research than “starve yourself” because who is too lazy to do research but not too lazy to make a huge lifestyle change and constantly exert control over their purchasing/prep/eating habits? Decades for the body to recover? I mean, if you literally starve yourself to near death to the point where you cause organ damage you might never fully recover I guess, but seriously, nobody is doing that without already having severe issues beforehand. The overarching suggestion of “eat less calories if you want to be less fat” is effective and non-harmful advice as the majority of people who remain overweight tend to overeat. Which is unhealthy and can take decades for the human body to recover.

    englislanguage ,

    Your comment is incorrect in many different ways.

    Butter is fat and some sugar and protein.

    No. The butter in my fridge has almost no sugar (0.6g in 100g) and almost no protein (0.7 g in 100g).

    Pasta is mostly carbs.

    For comparison: The pasta I have at home have more sugar (most have roughly 3g in 100g) and way more protein (12g in 100g).

    they all become calories, and if you eat more calories than you burn, they will be stored as fat.

    Are you sure you’re not simplifying too much?

    Also, “just” eating less or more calories is not that easy if you ignore the side-effects. Carbohydrates will make you hungry very soon unless mixed (or eaten after) fibers, fat and protein. Which you should do anyways for health reasons.

    OutsizedWalrus ,

    I think the person you’re trying to correct was making the same point as you.

    They were simply trying to demonstrate that butter isn’t 100% fat.

    Kit ,

    Butter has 4.5x more calories than pasta by weight. It has roughly 100 calories per Tbsp.

    If she adds 2 Tbps of butter to his meal preps daily, he would gain (or at least, not lose) 1 lb of body fat roughly every 16 days.

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