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Celebrities will never adopt the Fediverse until usernames are centralized.

Because let’s say you’re Tom Hanks. And you get [email protected]

Well, what’s stopping someone else from adopting [email protected]?

And some platforms minimize the text size of platform, or hide it entirely. So you just might see TomHanks, and think it’s him. But it’s actually a 7 year old Chinese boy with a broken leg in Arizona.

Because anyone can grab the same name, on a different platform.

scrubbles ,
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I don’t think it’s a huge deal, we’ll either know they’re legit or not. Care to weigh in @MargotRobbie ?

sabreW4K3 ,
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Didn’t she just have a baby?

lambalicious ,

Well, what’s stopping someone else from adopting [email protected]?

There’s over 1400 people solely in the US named Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks The Celebrity does not get patent rights or trademarks or copyrights on the name.

Wanna know which is the Tom Hanks The Celebrity? Check if their profile is authenticated against their personal website, à-la-Mastodon.

wesker ,
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I honestly hope they never adopt the fediverse. Imagine wanting that.

greenshirtdenimjeans ,

Give em a blue checkmark

nokturne213 ,

$50 bucks little man, put that shit in my hand.

WatDabney ,

I presume I’m supposed to care, but I dont, and I don’t know why anyone would.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

The other night 337K people all registered to vote, simply because Taylor Swift sent one message on instagram.

People come to the platforms FOR the celebrities. And that’s just ONE celebrity. The more celebrities on the platform, the more fanbases come with it.

But celebrities are picky. If they think something will hurt their image, they won’t do it. Even if theres minimal chance it hurts their image. They have to be protective.

So they need assurance that when they post something, there’s zero chance someone else could be posting “as them”. Ironically enough, that was the original purpose of twitters blue checkmark.

WatDabney ,

I think you have forums confused with microblogs.

wesker , (edited )
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Fuck the celebrities. They aren’t your people, peers, or friends. They adopt platforms only when they determine they can make a buck from it. They’re the kids that break your new toys, and you’re suggesting we keep inviting them over to play.

They will only bring enshittification. Having a platform that isn’t celebrity friendly is a boon.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

With the celebrities come their followers. Which is like 97% of the world. I’m trying to get that 97% to adopt the fediverse.

But they don’t come on their own. They go where their celebrities go. The celebrities bring content for their followers to consume.

wesker , (edited )
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You’re arguing quantity over quality. I do not care the least for bootstrapped growth at the detriment of the platform. I also do not care about people who idolize and platform hop in order to follow celebrities. I suspect very few will bring with them value beyond increased traffic.

If you want this, Reddit is still an option available to you.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Right now Lemmy has something like 16K users, and a few hundred instances. Most of which are small instances hosting less than 10 users.

What I’m suggesting is a few hundred thousand instances, with millions of users, if not billions.

And I assume the instances would face a point where they need organization. So certain instances start hosting certain types of content.

So if you personally don’t want to read on home and garden topics, you don’t read those instances. That’s what I’m suggesting. If you want to stick to your small corner of the fediverse, you do that.

What you’re suggesting is that the fediverse never expand beyond the people you deem worthy of contributing content.

I tried to give peer-tube a chance. None of my youtube creators are producing content on peer-tube. I gave up when every single instance I found was just linux content.

With more celebrities bring more content. With more content brings more users. With more users brings more communities, and more niches.

I’m trying to bring down reddit, and instagram, and youtube, and twitter, and everything else thats considered social media. In its place, social media will default to the fediverse.

You on the other hand are trying to keep the fediverse from growing.

wesker , (edited )
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You’re right. I see no more intrinsic value in having 1mil users, versus 15k. And nothing you can say is likely to convince me that quantity determines or makes for a valuable platform. We’ve seen the growth mentality and resulting corporate greed destroy numerous platforms already.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Except in this case, there can be no corporate green to destroy the fediverse. They can build and destroy their own instance, and their own communities…but the very nature of the fediverse is that it scales well, and it CAN’T be owned. So growth can only help. Temporarily it may crash the servers with more traffic than it can handle, but more instances and servers will be added, and the userbase will spread out.

nokturne213 ,

This is sounding like don_dickle2.0

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Was Don_Dickle banned or something?

GBU_28 ,

No one should give a fuck if celebrities are here

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
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Who the fuck wants celebrities here?

This is a good thing.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Because with celebrities come fanbases.

Imagine if whoever the new hot artist is put out their next music video exclusively on Peer-Tube.

Suddenly millions of people would be using peer-tube. Then they’d ask “what is the fediverse?”

If you want to keep the fediverse small and isolated, go stay on hexbear, or whatever that one isolated instance is.

I would rather every single human be using the fediverse.

PP_BOY_ ,
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Yeah I don’t want those type of people here.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

You don’t want the fediverse to grow?

apfelwoiSchoppen ,
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It is, it is natural organic growth.

Organic growth is much more manageable and predictable than explosive cancerous growth.

PP_BOY_ ,
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Not like that. I’d rather the FV just slowly accumulate internet weirdos, OSS nerds, etc., than triple in size overnight because some pop singer told their fans to join

subignition ,
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Not a la Eternal September

cmgvd3lw ,

We have @MargotRobbie.

AbouBenAdhem ,

It should work the same as email: you can trust it’s them if the user account is hosted on their own site, or their employer’s, or if they link to it from another confirmed source.

SnotFlickerman ,
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Kind of like the BBC has their own Mastodon server instead of being on someone elses.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

But look below in the comments. Can you even tell which of my comments came from Lemmy.World, and which comments didn’t? Some platforms will just show Lost_My_Mind. I can’t tell which platform @AbouBenAdhem is posting via. I just see AbouBenAdhem.

AbouBenAdhem ,

I’m not familiar with every client, but on mine it only hides the domain for users on my own server. (Early email used to work exactly the same—you could send an email addressed to just a username with no tld and it would go to the user with that name on your own server by default.)

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

I’m not using any client. I’m just using the browser that came with my cell phone.

missingno ,
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Yes.

scrubbles ,
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One good thing IMO about threads federating, that we get the celebrities, we know they’re verified, but I don’t have to join corpo social media.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Ah, yes, that's a very good point. You're the smartest man in the world!

Lost_My_Mind ,

Case in point.

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