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Mozami ,
@Mozami@kbin.social avatar

Bad choice after bad choice.

Roundcat ,
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

Yay, another week of higher than normal activity, until the fomo kicks back in and they leave yet again cause "everyone is on X/this is sooo complicated/I just wanna see the fallout/whatever excuse justifies their addiction"

sam ,
@sam@lemmy.ca avatar

Every time that happens the fedi retains a good chunk of users. There’s significant and stable growth throughout.

Conowelle ,

Ya that’s what happened with me, I deleted my account once Musk took over and started a Mastodon account and now I’m on Lemmy too and haven’t looked back at either platforms

reverendz ,

Anyone recommend a good iPhone app for Mastodon?

atyaz ,

I’ve been using ivory, it’s nice

qooqie ,

I second this, super stable, fresh design, lots of features. I didn’t even need to try a different app it fit everything I wanted

gyrodaddy ,

Ivory is my favorite as long as you don’t mind supporting the developers. But a close second place for me is Ice Cubes.

loaf ,
@loaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

I second Ice Cubes. I would recommend Mammoth as well, but feed loading can be super slow.

The official app loads super fast, but way too many limitations IMHO.

orgrinrt ,

Third recommendation for Ice Cubes here! It’s simply great

Drewsteau ,

I switched to ice cubes from mammoth because of the lack of a trending tab

Audel ,

Ivory is the iOS app I use and absolutely enjoy.

FIST_FILLET ,
@FIST_FILLET@kbin.social avatar

Ice Cubes is great for me, beautiful UI and cute sound effects

azura ,

I personally like Mona.

echoplex21 ,

Gonna go against the grain here and just recommend the default Mastadon app. It’s simple and gets the job done with no Bells and whistles. Not sure there’s much missing

alxhghs ,

Yeah I’m also on the default and not sure what other apps have going for them that make them better

YurkshireLad ,

Another vote for Ice Cubes.

spacedancer ,

I use Tusker and it’s been great so far. More features than the official app, and it’s pretty stable too.

Umbra ,

Apparently this is all part of some grand master plan. Maybe Elon will pull it off???

Acamon ,

Lol

iwan2c ,

ain’t no way

echo64 ,

His master plan sure does seem massively reactionary for a master plan

FIST_FILLET ,
@FIST_FILLET@kbin.social avatar

name a single grand master plan that elon has ever pulled off

gerbler ,

Financial suicide?

zomtecos ,
@zomtecos@feddit.de avatar

Still waiting for Teslas driving from west to east coast completely autonomously. And Elon flying to mars.

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

One way ticket to Mars, make it happen!

Umbra ,

Weren't all his companies successful in the end?

julianh ,

The companies he took over after they were were founded?

Umbra ,

Okay? Taking over a company, growing it, and then selling for huge profit is still good business sense.

PizzasDontWearCapes ,

He’s a douchebag and takes too much credit for the engineering that has made them successfull, but SpaceX has delivered some next-level rockets and Tesla has been very successful creating a new market niche and selling a ton of cars

Catch42 ,
@Catch42@kbin.social avatar

Uh, the first one. It's all downhill after that. It's the only one he's ever pulled off. Look at the goals for the master plan part 2 and you'll see that they haven't managed to do a single one, but Elon still went ahead a published a part 3. Why actually meet goals when you can just pretend you've met them by posting new ones, I guess.

AlternatePersonMan ,

I can’t fathom that anybody could be this stupid. Does he have a reason to purposely destroy Twitter?

The decisions he’s making aren’t just bad, they’re the worst possible ones that he could make. As in, he gathered a group of experts and these are the best ways to destroy Twitter that they could think up.

floofloof ,

Some people are suggesting he ran up so much debt buying Twitter that he’s now running it into the ground in order to declare bankruptcy and not have to repay the debt. I don’t know how plausible this is.

gndagreborn ,
@gndagreborn@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if that would be taken to court if true.

floofloof ,

I imagine it would be hard to prove, because he would never admit it was intentional, and he’d never have to tell anyone else that in order to execute the plan. It can look like a series of blunders either way.

Hiccup ,

Totally could be pulling a Sears/Kmart and an Eddie lampert.

Andjhostet ,

He was paid to tank Twitter.

theneverfox ,

Exactly!

More are more I’ve been thinking - he watches anime, he thinks current social media is incredibly dangerous, and (while he was always a dick in private) he only really showed the current Musk after meeting Trump.

We know musk watches anime - it’s like the zero requiem. First, he becomes a folk hero, a billionaire putting his weight behind important tech for humanity. Then he meets Trump - maybe he realized how dark our prognosis as a species is.

He starts driving away his left-leaning futurist and techy core with bigotry and being a dick. He backs out of a plan to buy Twitter, violates his parole, and makes a big show about trying to get out of it… But what did he actually do besides complain it’s full of bots, then give up?

He walks in with a kitchen sink, drives away anyone who can afford to leave or might resist a stupid order, and settles in.

For months, about every two weeks he’s been doing something to wean users off Twitter, while making a big show of some increasingly obviously dumb ideas. Like seriously, his business is ads - it makes so little sense that he limit users to such low limits - even subscribers could eat through that easily

He lies through his teeth and says it’s working, he’s almost breaking even, that users and advertisers come crawling back… Exactly what u/spez and every other social media guy desperately want to believe - the only thing standing between them and profit is telling their users to suck it

Now he finally admits they’re in terrible shape, making his last fanboys look like idiots, and making himself look not only erratic and out of touch, but like a bad businessman.

To totally parallel the requiem, he needs to topple all the billionaires before staging his death - leaving the world in shape to rebuild, and very wary of the dangers of wealth inequality.

Or at least make us actually unite and change the laws and economic system.

Or maybe he’s just having a midlife crisis, hates Twitter, and is just burning money for the hell of it. And the attention.

REdOG ,
@REdOG@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just here to spread the good word about old.lemmy.world

TheArstaInventor ,
@TheArstaInventor@kbin.social avatar

Or Kbin! Kbin can do both microblogging and link aggregation/discussion. Tbh departing Twitter users coming to Mastodon, and reddit refugees are brought together on Kbin.

The "all-in-one" method acomplished by Kbin is a huge feat, especially when it's built by a single person from scratch (ie; not based on lemmy codebase wise) and still much more ActivityPub compatible.

Kbin is sadly very underrated imo.

bassomitron ,

It needs a mobile app to take off, imo.

Additionally, since it is just one guy (that I’m aware of), I’m not sure how sustainable it is for him. I believe he’s been surviving off some EU grant and donations, but once the grant runs out and donations slow, the server costs for delivering content to tens of thousands of users every day are going to start being pretty rough to handle. Has he explained what his plan is for long term sustainability?

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

@ArtemisApp is in beta right now. @hariette has been hard at work. I look forward to trying it soon. Hopefully. I’m not on discord, and that’s where most people are getting beta.

can ,

There’s a beta sign up form. I got an invite and I was never on the discord. I believe open beta is very soon anyway though.

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

I’m on the form. Been on there for a bit. Mostly I like pointing out that an app is being actively developed for kbin, and that I have never used it so I cannot tell you more.

I think lemmy people should know that @hariette has previously stated that Artemis will work there too. At least, I’m pretty sure they said that. Children have turned my brain to mush and my memory is about as reliable as a 3 year old.

kglitch ,

It was one guy until recently. But now if you look at the Kbin commits, it looks like 3 or 4 people. It's growing.

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/commits/branch/develop

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Great for the fediverse there’s many different codebases.

Azzu ,

I feel that’s a feature of Lemmy to not do both. I don’t care about microblogs. I want the sites that I use to do one thing and do it as well as possible, so I can mix & match what I use, and not see what I don’t want.

Number358 ,

The thing is, it’s not forced into your feed or anything. If you want to see microblogs, you have to go to the microblogs tab

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Can’t wait for Lemmy Enhancement Suite.

Because LES is more.

FoxBJK ,
@FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

Honestly my favorite thing about Lemmy so far is that the web UI already has most of the things I wanted RES to have. And it’s all open source so we can just improve the UI directly. No need for browser changes!

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Same!

Though I do miss the content/comment filters that RES could do!

Albinoss ,

That’s exactly it. I saw a lot of people on Twitter today saying they’re only staying the fallout. It’s dumb, and yes, I’m part of the problem, though I’m staying only to update some connections on where I’m going.

Whirlybird ,

Those same people have “only been staying for the fallout” since musk bought it, still tweeting away dozens of times a day. They’re the same people that said they’d leave Reddit on July 1 yet are still there.

Albinoss ,

Completely agree. I think people are so engrained that they just don’t want to try something else.

User_4272894 ,

I can fathom no world where you’d want to trade away a multi billion dollar brand for a new brand you literally can’t SEO. What, you think your brand is gonna be more impressive that the generic variable, and a part of the alphabet?

“Follow me on Twitter” becomes “follow me on X”? “You should tweet that” becomes “you should X that”? The little blue bird on every shop window, website, and business card becomes a stylized letter that, hopefully, doesn’t look so threatening on the next iteration?

It’s a textbook case of brand destruction. I almost regret never making a Twitter in the first place, just so I could quit today, or at any of the hundred days in the past year where it got inexplicably worse without reason.

teolan ,
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

“You should tweet that” becomes “you should X that”

“You should X-create” that

teolan ,
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

And a tweet becomes an “X-cretion”

notapantsday ,

X-crement

callmepk ,
@callmepk@lemmy.world avatar

And retweet it become X-Forwarded-For it

model_tar_gz ,

It’s just a new form of messaging called X-communication.

oh wait.

mauns ,

It’s inspired by all the X-Twitter employees

Hiccup ,

We’re witnessing an X-tinction event in real time.

Voli ,

Ain’t X-ing a term for cutting something out of your life ?

sheilzy ,

Yes, and I was thinking how confusing it could be. A: “Hey, did you see that trend on X?” B: “What? No, I don’t talk to my ex anymore.”

azura ,

I should X that sounds like I should delete/close that. How apt.

shukufuku ,

Twitter is my ex

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

To me it sounds like axe.

“Yep, brilliant. Axe it.”

Saneless ,

Jamie Kennedy’s show is about to become relevant again. You’ve been X’d!

rm_dash_r_star ,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

The little blue bird on every shop window, website, and business card becomes a stylized letter that, hopefully, doesn’t look so threatening on the next iteration?

Haha, I know the most appropriate iteration, a red background with the X in a white circle.

Tyfud ,

Perhaps with each corner of the X at a 90 degree angle clockwise? You know, to add style points.

IanM32 ,
@IanM32@lemmy.world avatar

It makes the X go faster, everyone knows that.

ttmrichter ,
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ttmrichter ,
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Master ,
@Master@lemmy.world avatar

Xing is short for kissing IE XOXO. So instead of tweeting we are now kissing!

SkaveRat ,

you should X that

You should x-crete that

Mars2k21 ,
@Mars2k21@kbin.social avatar

Its a terrible rebrand that pretty much comes because of Elon's impulses, or in other words, for shits and giggles. Regardless of this hilarious trashing of such a powerful brand, I'll have fun calling tweets "xeets" for a good week.

player1 ,

“Hey bros wanna see me light $40 billion on fire?”

dangblingus ,

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia spent good money to never have an Arab Spring again.

FoxBJK ,
@FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

Which is nuts because they have a nationwide content filter and could just blacklist Twitter and be done with it in 5 minutes.

elrik ,

Please call them Elon’s x-crements instead.

Bogasse ,

It must be so horrible working “with” him. You’re trying to build something and every morning you must be frightened to see Elon hanging on a ladder because he thought it was so funny to draw dicks everywhere on the building, which would have you cancel everything you are working on.

Urbanfox ,

I’ve worked in a founder led business and this is why I quit.

I’d spend forever working on a project to build a satellite site then suddenly we don’t want that anymore - bin the recipes we want a full main site redbrand.

Bye.

Bogasse ,

Feel you, I’ve been working with this kind of person but he was pushed away a few weeks after my arrival. He still had time to make an impression though, his genius move was to tell each team that the others hated them, which had no effect because we talked to each others…

Tygr ,

Follow me on ten.

ttmrichter ,
@ttmrichter@lemmy.world avatar

He’s just a fan of Laurie Anderson. Give him some slack!

Let X = X

PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=UfOK0evCqZY

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

danielton ,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

Watch out… language is a virus!

dangblingus ,

Destroying the brand and ruining twitter was always the goal. There’s a good reason why Saudi Arabia fronted half of the bill…

Hikiru ,
@Hikiru@lemmy.world avatar

“Hey, check out this X video”

Anafroj ,

He’s clearly laying the groundwork to sell it to Alphabet (Google’s parent company). /s

dreadedsemi ,

I opened Twitter page and it shows login page with small x on left and big x in the middle. But only one closes the popup.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

I just checked too. And if you close popup it takes you do another login page (also with an X) but that one can’t be closed. So apparently there is no way to browse Twitter without an account now, which you could before.

People always used to claim that getting banned from twitter meant you were cut off from important information. It’s highly debatable that there was any important information on twitter. That aside it wasn’t really true you were cut off entirely, you could still browse tweets, just couldn’t post when banned. Now it seems being banned does mean you’re cut off from reading it.

Klear ,

Yeah, that’s a change from while back.

cleric10 ,

Twitter was really good for news media and it kinda still is. Where I come from legacy media have been bought off by plutocrats who are in bed with the government and only reputable source of news are independent media which don’t have enough funding or financial backing to appear on satellite TV channels. There’s also no incentive for the incumbent to let such media flourish since legacy media is doing their dirty work. So for people like me this is a huge setback.

lechatron ,
@lechatron@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder how much x.com cost to purchase, or if it was just a domain twitter/Musk had lying around.

Discotheque ,

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  • lechatron ,
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    Curious if he sold it to twitter, I can’t imagine parting with a single character domain for free.

    DmMacniel ,

    He is twitter.

    jupiter_rowland ,

    @lechatron And I wonder if Musk has the balls to try and buy x.org.

    Whirlybird ,

    Twitter hasn’t even rebranded yet and an article like this comes out? Jumping the gun a bit don’t they think?

    99% of the people that were leaving twitter when musk took over are still there. They’re too invested to leave. People like Steven King just keep making fools of themselves by still being there 12 months later complaining about how bad Twitter is.

    Onii-Chan ,
    @Onii-Chan@kbin.social avatar

    These people are addicted to such a degree that they're functionally on the same level as literal junkies, just without the physical damage. Social media was such a fucking mistake, and I don't think we're ever going to recover from it within our lifetime.

    Ted Kaczynski was right.

    PizzasDontWearCapes ,

    These people are addicted to such a degree that they’re functionally on the same level as literal junkies, just without the physical damage. Social media was such a fucking mistake,

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    Onii-Chan , (edited )
    @Onii-Chan@kbin.social avatar

    I mean, yeah. The only 'social media' I have is kbin, and I check it once or twice a day. If it went anywhere, I wouldn't really give a shit, as I left all the major platforms years ago and adding one more to that list wouldn't bother me. Don't group me in with Twitter (x?) users because I called them out on their addiction, when I've already done what they seemingly can't.

    PizzasDontWearCapes ,

    Check out the app or webpage, they’ve already put in the temp X logo

    Whirlybird ,

    The app is still called twitter with the twitter logo, at least on iOS.

    PizzasDontWearCapes ,

    Well they started taking down the Twitter sign at HQ, so it’s happening

    Whirlybird ,

    I’m not denying that it’s happening, I’m simply saying that the rebrand hasn’t even happened on the main way people interact with twitter, yet we have article after article saying that people are leaving in droves because of the rebrand…that they haven’t seen yet.

    DmMacniel ,

    It did though? Twitter.com no longer shows the bird (replaced by an X). It’s loading screen is a stylised X. And x.com points to the same server.

    Whirlybird ,

    The app is still called twitter with the bird logo, at least on iOS.

    Also what it’s called is irrelevant. It’s still twitter, it’ll still behave the same, it’s still got the 500 million users. Why would anyone leave a platform simply because it changed names and url?

    DmMacniel ,

    What it’s called isn’t irrelevant. Twitter blue, tweeting, Twitter and tweets are all linked to Twitter and not to X. And X is what it’s called now. So post on X and follow me on X.

    Just because the App on iOS and or android haven’t been updated to reflect that change doesn’t mean it hasn’t been rebranded yet.

    How it will affect the users? Well that’s to be seen. The first waves of Userscripts surely will follow soon to replace X with the bird in browsers.

    Edit: just checked the twitter App on the android play store may still be named by such but is now owned by X Corp. The most generic name ever.

    Whirlybird ,

    Why is what it’s named relevant? Twitter blue will be renamed. Functionally nothing will change.

    all-knight-party ,
    @all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

    Usually a rebrand signifies a change in the direction or focus of the brand. I don't keep up with it much, so on a surface level this rebrand seems like more of a "I like it better this way" on Elon's part than a true rebrand with a point and reason.

    tabular ,
    @tabular@lemmy.world avatar

    When is rebranding ever good for users/consumers?

    ren ,
    @ren@lemmy.world avatar

    Most rebrands keep an element of the original or adopt how the customer refers to it. Think Dunkin dropping “Donuts” and Kentucky Friend Chicken becoming KFC.

    All good.

    But for Dunkin Donuts to suddenly rename itself “Place” - not so good.

    ThePantser ,
    @ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

    When they change from a racist name and or mascot.

    tabular ,
    @tabular@lemmy.world avatar

    That rebranding seems to me as just hiding past misdeeds. I’m not charitable enough to take apologies from companies at face-value, there would need to be some effort to explain and show change too.

    Squidquid ,

    Can anyone help explain how to find content worth following on Mastodon? I made an account today and despite going through the category I’m finding it difficult to find content or people I want to follow. The few things I’ve found end up just being Lemmy communities which kind of defeats the purpose of having a mastadon account at all… maybe it’s because I never had a Twitter, but the Lemmy/reddit/forum layout makes much more sense to me

    jupiter_rowland ,

    @Squidquid Option #1: Search for a hashtag. If it exists, and it's halfway active, follow it. No, I'm not kidding you, you can do that on Mastodon.

    Option #2: the people section on fediverse.info.

    Option #3: No matter which instance you're on, go to mastodon.social with your Web browser and search it for interesting hashtags. This may reveal to you more people who are interested in those topics/write about those topics.

    Also, if you want to learn more about the Fediverse beyond Lemmy (and beyond Mastodon, for that matter), go follow [email protected]. It's a public forum on Friendica. You'll learn soon enough what Friendica is.

    pumpensumpf ,

    One idea is to browse the hashtag and follow people whose introductions sound promising to you. The hashtag might also be useful. If you want to follow scholars and scientists, there is this list grouped by discipline: github.com/nathanlesage/academics-on-mastodonAnd in general, you can follow hashtags on Mastodon, e.g. “” for pictures of plants.

    Kaldo ,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    Unfortunately this is not the fault of mastodon, its community or tech behind it as much as ... nobody from twitter actually moving to mastodon. There aren't many big influencers, companies or content creators on mastodon so your feed is just random people talking about random stuff. The lack of algorithm doesn't help either since someone's random showerthoughts have the same chance of showing up for you as does something trending that you'd actually be interested in.

    Boiglenoight ,

    Follow / pin active hashtags. I have 4, and . I’m a simple man

    Kaldo ,
    @Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

    And then I get even more random irrelevant crap because everyone talking about their latest rp adventures in stardew valley tags steam, gaming, indiegaming and other general hashtags.

    Boiglenoight ,

    There’s some of that, but I prefer it for something like micro blogging. I want to see different things, points of view. By contrast, I’ll go to a news site for specific info. I love Mastodon because there’s a unvarnished stream of information that isn’t curated by algorithms. :D

    khajimak ,
    @khajimak@lemmy.world avatar

    Yep, everyone I followed on Twitter went to Bluesky, some made accounts on Mastodon, but none of them stuck around

    MaxPow3r11 ,

    It depends on what you are into. If you like anime (for example) you could try something broad like # (anime) [no spaces and such] & then see what other hashtags people are using from there. The same with music or something. That’s what I do at least. There might be better ways but a lot of times people are into similar stuff and that can lead down different paths as well.

    TORFdot0 ,

    Sportsbots.xyz host mirrors of the popular sports writers. I follow thurrott from twit apple insider and 9 to 5 max. Tech meme is good for tech news headlines. I fill krebs on security as well. It’s better than twitter because it’s chronological and not algorithm fed

    penguin ,

    I’m interested to know which accounts to follow for lemmy news. Seems like a natural place to go when having trouble connecting like I did with fmhy before and shit just works recently.

    xapr ,

    It takes some effort to build up and shape your Home feed on Mastodon. One good starting point is to search for hashtags that you’re interested in, like or or whatever. It may take some trial and error to find the most popular hashtags being used in your topics of interest. Once you find the hashtags with stuff that’s interest to you, follow those hashtags so you will continue to discover new people and posts in those topics in your Home feed. Once you find interesting people posting in those hashtags, follow them. The name of the game on Mastodon is to follow, follow, follow. I’ve heard it said that your feed will get pretty good when you follow around 200 people or so.

    WhoRoger ,
    @WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

    Is that why I’ve seen more people today wanting to bitch about politics in completely random threads?

    rm_dash_r_star ,
    @rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

    Um yeah, I’m not seeing that. You can see monthly active users on the-federation.info/platform/21 and it’s been fluctuating up and down, no big jump. So I call bullshit on that article based on the metric there. Though no doubt as Twitter (X) implodes Mastodon will see the fallout with higher activity.

    Invertedouroboros ,

    It’s like Elon has read every book with an evil corporation in it and decided to make it his whole ascetic. X corp, sounds like the big bad that some plucky band of YA book protagonists have to team up to take down.

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