Sorry to hear, and this isn’t going to help much, but sometimes going childfree can be an economic decision. My favorite place to stay in Las Vegas is Circa, and one of its features are no kids allowed. I don’t mean no small children, or just no children in the casino, I mean no one under 21 is even allowed past the door, ID is checked. Not in the hotel, not in the restaurants, not in the pool. And it’s a great pool.
I wish there were more adults only places/days. I am autistic and children are very overstimulating. Plus I like doing childish things so.... Gimme a no child night at an arcade or mini golf or something and I would be there so fast
Agreed. God help you if you want to have a special date night at a mini golf place. Oh you wanted to have a romantic night? Sorry billy and Jimmy are going to just push you aside while they play. Their parents dropped them off and won’t be back for an hour
That was not the point at all, but I think you probably knew that
As mentioned in other comments, I go to this one barber because it’s the one of 30ish that caters specifically to adults. The other 29 are all very family friendly. However, knowing that, faced with 29 family friendly barbers and 1 not, people like yourself still are upset that the one is supposed to be adults only and try to flip it around on me that I’m the bad person for having the gall of wanting a quiet hair cut.
No, I’m tired of this argument. Parents already have the vast majority of places they get to take kids for. I’m tired of being the villain because I like having one option that isn’t kid friendly. Not all of them. Not half. Not even a few. I apparently don’t even get one place where I can sit quietly and get a haircut without a child running around.
I never said they weren’t allowed to be there. They have a “right” to be there.
But choosing to go to a place that is focused on adults when the other 95% are catered to families is entitled behavior.
I don’t go to Chuck e cheese and get upset that it’s family oriented, there are plenty of other options that are not family oriented I can choose to go to. I have the complete right to go there, but it’d be entitled of me to choose that place and want them to change their atmosphere for me.
Gotta agree with the other person. I’m not a fan of kids, even posted yesterday about having kids in places I don’t like there being kids, but you’re going to their party and they have kids.
In this case if you don’t want to be around kids you can not go to the party, otherwise it’s one of those things you do for your friends.
Oh absolutely. I’m not saying I wouldn’t go. It’s just the general, pretty much as the gif says, “I hope it’s worth the noise.” Like, if visiting my buddy also meant getting kicked in the balls, I’d hope our friendship and the visit were worth it.
But also, the older I get and the more of my friends have kids, the more of those social events to see those old friends involve loud, sticky children. (And heck, I’m pretty good at playing with them as not having children, I mysteriously have more energy than most.) They’re my friends, so I go. It’s just seeing those friends is less great than it once was, which is saddening.
They do if the principles maintain an environment your customers can tolerate, thus keeping your customer base intact instead of seeing them go somewhere that doesn't have kids running around everywhere.
This is the first answer in the whole chain that has made sense to me. Regardless of what type of parenting philosophy people subscribe to, businesses are going to do what makes money. It doesn’t matter what everyone thinks is right or wishes would happen.
Which is why I go out of my way to niche places that don’t have as many kids, I am inconveniencing myself to go to these niche places. There are a dozen other barber shops closer to me I could go to but I went to this one farther away because it had an adult vibe.
Even when I go out of my way to try to find the one place that fits me mom groups still push their way in.
That’s why I dislike this argument. I go to the one of 30ish barber shops around me because I wanted that atmosphere without kids and I’m still demonized because “kids are a part of life”. To me that comes off as "I know there are 29 others I could take my kids to, but you’re a bad person for not wanting kids at the only one that doesn’t cater to them "
Is this a place to hate children, or talk about a child free lifestyle for yourself?
Talking about how the world expects you to have kids, and the pressure to have kids is a lot different than just talking about how annoying kids are to be around.
They’re your friends, go hang out, spoil the kids, teach them bad words and send them home with their parents, then chill in silence at home.
Is this a place to hate children, or talk about a child free lifestyle for yourself?
I can’t find an outline of what the community is here. There’s not a laid out prescription of what this group is and isn’t. But the most popular post by a county mile is a similar sort of complain about how there’s no adult places anymore.
For me, the joke isn’t about hating kids, it’s the fact that as a childfree adult with many friends, life increasingly becomes about dealing with their kids at things. For the parents, they sort of get a break as the kids run around with each other. But the rest of us, trying to catch up with those friends whom we haven’t seen in ages have it all punctuated by loud screaming. I still go because yes, they are my friends. It’s just like many things, less great than it was.
As someone who has kids, it’s a fucking Act of Congress to get child care. I wouldn’t trust my parents to watch a potted plant, and her parents really aren’t interested in the whole grandparent thing. Hiring a babysitter is both sketchy and expensive, and asking a friend is awkward since
most of our friends are nokids and/or not super comfortable around kids and our kids were deeply blessed by the ADHD fairy and have never met a stranger in their whole lives. And
We don’t see our friends often, so “hey, wanna come over and watch our crazy heathens try to beat the shit out of each other every 3.5 seconds?” Is kind of a hard sell.
So, it’s just easier to take them everywhere, and if we can’t take them, we don’t go.
Ah, so just to recap, you chose to have kids, they made socializing difficult, and now everyone else has to deal with your “crazy heathens”.
These are reasons why people choose not to have kids, not reasons to justify ruining other people’s times because you decided to have kids and it had predictable outcomes.
The question asked, I answered. To be clear, we didn’t specifically sit down and plot to make you and other people miserable when we decided to have kids. Also, we don’t let them run wild, which usually results in us just leaving because they’re going to start melting down over not being able to go harass strangers who just want to be left alone. Besides that, we try to avoid adultier venues, but sometimes shit happens. When I say we normally don’t go unless we can take them, the emphasis is on the ‘we normally don’t go’. We kinda figured that the grandparents would at least be able to help, as has been the case for millennia, but it turned out that my mom has all the parenting skills of a pair of scissors and her parents want almost nothing to do with it. I’ll save you the sob story and just say that it’s been fucking difficult, and sometimes it feels like my brain is going to melt out of my ears; we’re not fucking sitting around laughing about ruining your night out, and that’s even if we do go out, which we usually don’t.
We try to avoid adultier places if we can help it, but sometimes there’s no helping taking your kid to the DMV and just having to get your shit chewed out by the security guard. In general, though, we just avoid unnecessary trips out.
I mean, most people are going to raise kids at some point in their life.
I entirely get people who don't have kids around wanting to have establishments with "no kids" rules. That's great, nothing wrong with having an establishment that caters to them. But I also think that people who have kids should have options that cater to them as well, should be some establishments in the industry that do the same for them.
Right, like almost every other barber shop in the country. This was one barber shop out of dozens around me that are all labeled as “family friendly”, but this is still the one they chose to come to.
I hear this argument a lot but the fact is that most places are family friendly, but when a restaurant wants to be explicitly adult only it makes national news.
The other night, my SO and I went out for dinner at a nearby place and there was literally a group of kids running laps through the tables while the parents just looked on.
No way am I saying don’t get your kids out for dinner but atleast enforce basic courtesy applicable in public spaces!!
That’s where you take them to Applebee’s, somewhere where I’d expect kids to be running around. They shouldn’t, but I expect it. Fine dining no way should they be in that position
I'm sorry that happened to you. Let the business owner know that all of those kids are ruining the vibe that you patronize their business for. Solving this problem could be as easy as the barber shop offering something like a kids day where they don't serve whiskey and instead serve lemonade or something, allowing that day to be the main kids day.
I think you don't see those adult only places much any more because to most they have outlived their usefulness. There are 2 factors behind this. First, there are far fewer children around nowadays than before. When everyone had multiple children, adult only spaces were necessary if anyone wanted to get anything done. The second, and honestly a great thing from a childfree point of view, is that between birth control and abortion, most people who do have kids genuinely want them. I suspect that most of the demand for those adult only spaces in the past was from people who were seeking peace from their own kids. Of course all parents need breaks from their kids, but ever noticed that the people who complain the most about their children are the ones who had them out of obligation rather than desire?
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