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Do you still write notes with pen and paper?

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don’t have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there’s many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

AnonStoleMyPants ,

95% digital. Work journal is in Tiddlywiki and that’s basically it. Todo lists I do tend to do with pen & paper.

I like pen and paper but searching is always such a fucking hassle and my hand writing is garbo. If I know I don’t need to actually find anything later then it’s great (doodling and thinking about something). I guess I could do pen and paper and layer save into digital but meh.

ginerel ,
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Have you tried using different colors to highlight certain content? This way, you can somehow remember what is going on and where, and you remember to look for certain keywords. You can sometimes put certain words in a square, so you won't develop a habit and actually remember what you wrote.

AnonStoleMyPants ,

Not really. But it would be difficult because I have many things I need to keep track of. If I need to later figure out if I did X for Y then I need to be able to find it. Or if I quickly need to find every step I’ve done relating to Y it gets difficult. Only way would be to write everything basically twice, to a notepad (or page) about Y, and also to my journal where I quickly jot down what I have done today.

I’ve thought about digitizing notes and using something like hashtags which I could then search for but it was way too much of a hit and miss to covert handwriting to a searchable format.

Of course having a good index would make things easier but dunno. Maybe I’ll take another shot at it at some point.

Zoldyck ,

Both, for different reasons. I use paper notes to stick them on my fridge so I won’t forget about them.

DagingAnalog ,

Yes, for recipe.

polskilumalo ,
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Ah mama’s hand written recipes, they contain more than just her recipes…

The abused paper, the fading writing, her handwriting, the smell of cocoa powder in the paper…

From a simple recipe written down quickly, it turns into a cherished family heirloom.

Hazzia ,

Yes, pen & paper notes always. I consider myself a techie, but when it comes to learning or remembering, 100% analog, all the way.

As for the why, it’s a bit hard to explain, but the sensory experience of writing - the feeling and sound of the pen or pencil gliding on the paper - and the fact that I write more slowly than I type, which helps me sit with and process the infformation for a bit longer, really helps cement the info in my head.

Sertou ,

There’s research that backs you up.

People tend to retain more of their written notes than typed. The act of writing forces you to assimilate and summarize new information on the fly. Typing allows you to take more complete notes closer to a verbatim transcript, but you engage less with what you’ve typed.

gradepowerlearning.com/writing-vs-typing-notes-wh…

IRQBreaker ,

Oh yes. The actual craft of writing something down with a pencil does wonders for me to actually remembering stuff.

Hadriscus ,

Yeah the note itself doesn’t really matter in my experience, it’s the note-taking itself that helps register stuff.

Cube6392 ,

Its your sense of proprioception, too. To write something with pen and paper you have to move your hand in three dimensional space, and this does a TON to engrain the information in your head

BURN ,

Always pen/paper

A note on my phone is about as useful as no note at all. The physical presence of the note is much more important.

DingDongBell ,

flowchart, brainstorming and drawing is always good with p&p

skip0110 ,
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I use paper for shopping lists, to keep track of dimensions etc, and to-do lists for work.

I tried multiple note taking or to do list apps over the course of a few years before going back to paper.

Benefits: No risk of scratching/dropping my phone because I have it out. Can easily emphasize text, star/cross off items, and mix diagrams and text. Can quickly scan many items by eye. Works when my phone battery dies. Works when no cell service (unlike some collaborative to-do/list apps) Can hand the list to my partner. Instant sync. Satisfying to physically toss out completed lists. Can reference the list while on the phone. Not distracted by phone alerts. Never get spam email or pop ups urging me to pay for an app, or rate an app; no terms of service or privacy policy!

utopify_org ,
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With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why someone should waste time to find their smartphone, power it on, input the pin for the sim, unlock the screen, find the right app in the app jungle, open it, find the “new note” option, which is hidden in a sub menu instead of using a short cut on your keyboard to bring up a terminal, which opens Vim and automatically saves the file as a note with the correct file name.

ginerel ,
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You have more people that know how to exit a note app tho, compared to vim.

utopify_org ,
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That’s true and it’s worrying!

TarquinNimrod ,

Ha ha, exactly! And all you did after that was add ‘tomatoes’ to a weekly shopping list. And then after turning it off and putting it down, remembered you forgot ‘onions’.

utopify_org ,
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for the shopping list I have a similar hot key and after saving the list, it will be automatically send to my android (over local network, not over the internet, sharing it with dozens of companies) and I can open it with SimpleTask having it sorted by the shelves how they appear in the supermarket to not run like a psychopath back and forth.

Twink ,
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I did! And then didn’t use them. I finally had some Internet via WiFi so I downloaded a notes app and actually used them!

667 ,
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I do both, and it’s heavily dependent on what the purpose of the note is for.

I keep a yellow legal pad and mechanical pen. Stuff that goes on the pad are usually the ultimate in throwaway notes. Scribbles that are wholly transitory.

Then I have a digital note management system (Obsidian.md) and use it to maintain a personal journal and Zettelkasten.

Some yellow pad notes might flow into Obsidian, but not always.

amio ,

I use sticky notes at home, and write by hand in an actual notebook when hashing things out. I also take notes in a text editor, though.

keepcarrot ,

Yeah, I can type faster than I can write, but I can write faster than I can type on phone. The note winds up in a physical location, which helps me with both retrieval and remembering (say, this section of my desk-cube-thing is for project notes in my garage, this section is events, this is things I need to buy from the shops etc). I can draw little images pretty easily as well, have not habituated to digital art unfortunately. While not insurmountable with apps, is it really worth the additional effort shopping around when I keep inheriting post-it notes and data cards from various sources (idk why).

Also, I get bonkers distracted on the phone. I sometimes forget I am just checking the time.

shashi154263 ,

Yes, it’s very useful sometimes.

Unlocking the phone, looking at it, opening the app, then looking for the info is a hassle sometimes. Sometimes it’s not safe either.

lvxferre ,
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Yes. It’s faster, I have an easier time remembering stuff that I wrote by hand instead of using a keyboard, I can’t be arsed to use a phone most of the time, and I can even apply some primitive “encryption”* to keep a certain overly curious person around me from messing with my notes. I can also use them when I’m designing writing scripts for constructed languages, way faster than doing it in Inkscape.

The big con is that one of my cats thinks that paper is toy, and the other thinks that any large enough sheet is a bed.

*it’s just Italian with ad hoc Cyrillic. Good enough for handwritten notes.

Neil ,
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    lvxferre ,
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    Paper is toy.

    So is a smartphone. At least for my cat.

    Cheriebarie ,

    Yes, I do.

    I enjoy handwriting and it is much faster for me. I like to have a couple of different coloured pens and have it organised. Usually I just end up with a scribbled mess but that is okay. At least only I can read it. If I need to I will type it up afterwards - I love typing as well.

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