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Do you still write notes with pen and paper?

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don’t have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there’s many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

Skyline ,

For those of you that do, join us at !fountainpens :)

polskilumalo ,
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Ooooooh, that looks nice. I think I’ll join!

Schlemmy ,

I always have a notepad next to me while working. The notes on paper somehow guide my workflow.

ArmokGoB ,

My laptop died in June, so I had to write my entire master’s thesis in a notebook with a pen. Typing on a phone is terrible for writing more than a few sentences.

fratermus ,
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Typing on a phone is terrible for writing more than a few sentences.

A bluetooth keyboard might be helpful here.

bismuthbob ,
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At home I take notes on the computer. Timestamps, instant sync across devices, whatever editor I like to use, et cetera. If I get a random call and someone starts talking at me, I’ll settle for scribbling on a fast food receipt if it is close to hand. I use my phone sometimes, but I generally take notes when I’m on a phone call.

When I’m at an in-person meeting with a client, pen and paper is the best option because it conveys some degree of respect. People still seem to be put off by people pulling out a laptop and typing during an emotionally charged meeting. If I pull out my cellphone and start poking at it in a professional setting, people don’t think that I’m listening or taking notes. They think that I’m bored.

Tubulous ,

Seconded on the respect comment. It may not be fair, but I think people using their laptops in meetings are distracted by the myriad notifications constantly bombarding us, checking email, or otherwise not staying engaged. Harder to be present when your device keeps clamoring for your attention.

utopify_org ,
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With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why someone should waste time to find their smartphone, power it on, input the pin for the sim, unlock the screen, find the right app in the app jungle, open it, find the “new note” option, which is hidden in a sub menu instead of using a short cut on your keyboard to bring up a terminal, which opens Vim and automatically saves the file as a note with the correct file name.

ginerel ,
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You have more people that know how to exit a note app tho, compared to vim.

utopify_org ,
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That’s true and it’s worrying!

TarquinNimrod ,

Ha ha, exactly! And all you did after that was add ‘tomatoes’ to a weekly shopping list. And then after turning it off and putting it down, remembered you forgot ‘onions’.

utopify_org ,
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for the shopping list I have a similar hot key and after saving the list, it will be automatically send to my android (over local network, not over the internet, sharing it with dozens of companies) and I can open it with SimpleTask having it sorted by the shelves how they appear in the supermarket to not run like a psychopath back and forth.

Shikadi ,

Scientifically speaking, writing with your hand helps a lot with memory and learning, while typing does not have nearly the same effect. Also, a lot of handwriting apps are still garbage. It’s also nice for focusing to not be using a cell phone. Other than that, some people probably just like it

aaaaaaadjsf ,
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Because you remember it better when you actually write it out instead of just using a keyboard. And you can draw diagrams with ease. Most styluses are inaccurate and one dimensional, and buying a phone with actual proper stylus support in both the display and stylus itself is expensive. You could buy a separate technical device just for note taking with proper stylus support and have it upload notes to the cloud so you can access it at all times, but that requires a constant internet connection and mobile data is expensive. And then you have to carry this seperate device with you in the same way you’d carry a much cheaper physical notepad anyways.

TORFdot0 ,

I get a lot of scratch paper as part of my job entails troubleshooting printers (kill me) and so I have stacks of printer test pages, pages printed out with PCL and PS errors and what not. These make good canvases for sketching up quick network designs or diagraming things such as work flows. I usually scan them in a note taking app before shredding them to keep my desk clear but it’s much more convenient that having to use Visio or something on things that just need to be sketched out

kent_eh ,

I prefer pencil, but yes, I find it faster and more freeform, and more portable to take initial notes on paper.

programmer ,

Yes, when i need to concentrate

BURN ,

Always pen/paper

A note on my phone is about as useful as no note at all. The physical presence of the note is much more important.

Cheriebarie ,

Yes, I do.

I enjoy handwriting and it is much faster for me. I like to have a couple of different coloured pens and have it organised. Usually I just end up with a scribbled mess but that is okay. At least only I can read it. If I need to I will type it up afterwards - I love typing as well.

ShrimpsIsBugs ,

Yes, usually when in meetings. It’s 99% a society/conventional thing, but looking and typing on your phone while talking to someone will often be perceived as rude. Taking notes in your paper notebook though usually will come off as being attentive and interested.

DogMuffins ,

100% agreed, especially true with clients.

IDK why exactly but typing notes during a consult is impersonal.

I do consults with my notepad flat on the desk so clients can see what I’m writing. I often draw diagrams for them.

SecretPancake ,

Writing with a pen is still more intuitive for me than typing, so I automatically grab a piece of paper and jot it down. Especially while talking to someone.

But I do use note taking apps a lot for more permanent things.

Helix ,

Pen and paper don’t need batteries. I’m pretty sure I can whip out my notepad faster than you can unlock your phone and open the notes widget.

burningmatches ,

Pens need ink. Notepads need empty pages.

suenoromis ,

How often are you buying ink for your pen? Just buy a notepad? Regardless, both are cheap.

burningmatches ,

I don’t run out of pens because I record meetings with my phone or computer and get Otter AI to transcribe them. I already own a phone so it’s even cheaper than a pen or a notebook. And, here’s a pro tip, I keep it charged and have a power bank.

suenoromis ,

How is a phone cheaper than a pen? Electricity isn’t free, sure charging them is a fraction of cent but still, every time you charge either or both, someone is paying for it.

burningmatches ,

If you already own a phone, a pen and notebook is an extra cost.

Helix ,

If you already own a pen, a notebook and a phone you can stop caring about what other people think and just be efficient in note taking.

suenoromis ,

People have different preferences, I take my notes on multiple places of different formats so I understand the appeal of a digital one and a written one. It is rare for me to take notes but the ones that I want to keep more permanently are written. Day to day stuff are typed up and checkmarked once completed.

For a lot of my job a lot of parts have to be hand written and there are no excuses for typed up stuff, the same goes for my colleagues, for people in other departments in my company, for my clients, for the client’s client, the list goes on.

Your argument that if you already own a phone a pen and a notebook does come at a cost, yes it does, but your phone has a phone plan right? So you’ll pay monthly for it? Unless you just have a phone and rely on WiFi connections?

suenoromis ,

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