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Do you still write notes with pen and paper?

With so much note taking apps nowadays, I can’t understand why does anyone still write notes with pen and paper. You need to bring the notepad, book or that paper to retrieve that information, and most of the time you don’t have it in hand. While my phone almost always reachable and you carry when you go out. For those still like to do handwriting, there’s many app does that and they can even convert it to text notes.

So, if you still write notes with pen and paper, why?

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Just on phone. They’re not important notes though. Just random stuff. I don’t even remember the context for 80% of that.
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Yeah, what’s Slimport?

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Never did. Too much lazy, and dump1090 works.

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You get the idea.

Today ,

I usually have a dozen sticky notes on my desk - some i write and some other people leave for me. An email from three days ago is easier to forget than the sticky note.

Delphia ,

I work with a deaf guy.

Harder to draw diagrams on a phone.

AngryHippy ,
  1. a notebook and pencil in my shirt pocket are faster to open than a phone app
  2. handwriting is faster than thumb typing
  3. I can sketch an electrical diagram on paper way faster than anyone can with a stylus on some janky phone screen.

3.1) Even if there was a stylus/screen combination with the same haptics, fidelity, and input recognition speed as pencil on paper, it wouldn’t be 0.78€

  1. I can toss the notebook and diagrams to anyone working on a project with me with zero worry that they’ll drop it, forget it, or look around in the rest of it
  2. I can tear out a page and hand it to anyone instantly, instead of finding out what messaging app we have in common, copying (or screenshotting) the note and pasting it in an app
  3. I can insert a note into a physical book, stick it to the inside of a toolbox lid, a wall next to an electrical junction, inside a breaker box, or any other surface, and always have location-aware reminders waiting for me when I need them.
  4. With minimal environmental control, my notes are effectively immortal. I have notebooks of measurements and diagrams of most rooms, wall cavities, pipe runs, electrical runs, cable pulls, and dimensions of various equipment that have outlasted hard drives, backup tapes, and a few cloud storage companies.
flubba86 ,

This is the correct answer. I don’t take many notes personally myself, but your comment made me think I really should carry around a small notebook in my pocket.

eestileib ,

This guy notebooks.

Mostly_Gristle ,

Also, notes taken with pen and paper never run out of battery, or need to be charged. They’re powered by basically any light source.

idle ,
@idle@158436977.xyz avatar

On the flip side, they don’t come up in a mass search. I have so many notes. If it doesn’t come up in a search it mine as well not exist, I’ll never find it.

starlinguk ,
@starlinguk@kbin.social avatar

And your notes don't suddenly increase the price of your storage.

beetus ,

Digital text notes take up practically no storage space. You’ll spend more on new notebooks to write in over a year than digital storage space for the exact same content

polskilumalo ,
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I’d rather do that despite the costs. I like the real storage paper requires.

Steeve , (edited )

Uh, except for buying more notebooks and writing utensils, which, if your text files are large enough to suddenly increase the price of storage (or even need to pay for text storage), you’re going to need a whole lot of.

MidwayTheMagnificent ,

No, it’s more of a subtle, inflationary pressure.

For me, it’s the act of writing, the memory it helps solidify, and… being an FP nerd.

Can I take notes on a phone? Sure, but I wouldn’t use a personal device for work notes, ever. Between my privacy, customer privacy laws, and separation of concerns. I’ve no compunctions at all, though, about sharing an A5 notebook between journal, work notes, personal notes, and reminders.

whysofurious ,
@whysofurious@beehaw.org avatar

This. Plus as a subjective thing: I personally remember stuff more easily when I write them down compared to typing. Also my written notes mix bullet points, regular writing, arrows and connections, without having to “switch mode” or install plugins.

I still use note-taking apps, sometimes as primary, sometimes as secondary tool.

mctit ,

I feel like you have to be exceptionally fast at handwriting or exceptionally slow at thumb typing for handwriting to be faster.

indigojasper ,
@indigojasper@kbin.social avatar

I write with pen and paper because its faster for me and it's much more tactile.

nehal3m , (edited )

Writing by hand requires me to condense whatever I’m trying to grok. That helps in my understanding of it.

eestileib ,

Equations are a shitload faster to write: this is the main reason.

No fucking spell correction.

Every piece of writing is visually unique and looking back at handwritten notes brings back an additional layer of memory (diaries/personal journals eg).

Paper notes can be permanently destroyed with a high level of confidence and low cost if desired.

Written notes can be easily left for/handed to another person (for flirtatious purposes e.g.), or placed semi-permanently in a useful spot.

Electronic notes are great too, I keep my grocery list and whatnot on my phone, but the reasons above are why I also write things by hand.

hitagi ,

Yes! Pen and paper is much more flexible compared to writing-software. It’s easy to draw around or write on the margins when needed. I’ve tried writing with a stylus but I find it harder to use. I usually use this for class and if I have to jot down something quickly.

The only thing I don’t put on paper is my todo list. Software manages that so much better than pen and paper. I also don’t print out reading material anymore as it gets expensive and very bulky. I use xournalpp for annotation instead.

u202307011927 ,
@u202307011927@feddit.de avatar

Aesthetics mostly, but also it feels more tangible when expressing myself physically, not digitally. Like, I can better recognize what I wrote, because there were more senses involved in writing than there are with typing

shinigamiookamiryuu ,

Writing with a notepad is better for those who need to be freeform, want the ease of opening it up, and/or have privacy concerns (a phone of any security can be hacked, but a notepad can’t if you write in a code only you can understand, which can’t be done on a phone without an unlimited resource of special characters). As for reachability, it’s what you make of it.

SecretPancake ,

Writing with a pen is still more intuitive for me than typing, so I automatically grab a piece of paper and jot it down. Especially while talking to someone.

But I do use note taking apps a lot for more permanent things.

Jerrimu2 ,

I hand write to-do list because I can remember , my phone is a distraction machine.

Macaroni_ninja ,
@Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

Hi Steve! How are you doing?.. Good!..No last night was great! , yes I’m in the office…I need to pick up the stuff for the birthday party? Ok no problem, can you send me the address? …oh you driving, okay let me write it down… Hold on, I will put you on the loudspeaker so I can open my notes application… please don’t say anything embarrassing, I have like 10 co workers around me… Uh-um…

nutbutter ,

My handwriting is the perfect encryption. Nobody else can understand it. Lol.

petrescatraian ,

@nutbutter The algorithm is especially harder to decrypt if you don't write that often. I can tell it from my personal experience, lol.

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thelsim ,
@thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

Writing on paper helps me to make sense of the chaos in my head.
I have a big notebook in which I write out a first draft of new projects in as neat a handwriting as I can manage. It takes time, but it helps me to order my thoughts into something more coherent. And while writing, my subconscious usually comes up with other points that I might have missed earlier.
I enjoy making my notebook look as nice as possible, using a ruler for lines and tables, adding little illustrations in the margins when idling, etc. I want it to be something I’ll keep after it’s full, because it’ll represent a big chunk of memories from my professional life.

inspxtr ,

a mixed of digital + pen/paper notes. The latter especially when I need to sketch out ideas, diagrams, equations and a bunch of arrows between them.

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