The forst job i had was advertised as a customer service role. My thinking was itd be taking calls in the customer service department. With it being my first ever job/interview I missed all the red flags, sales were mentioned berifly but i figured it wasnt the main part of the job so itd be fine, and they even asked me about being on a phone.
Cut to my forst day and im brought into a room with roughly a dozen other new people, we are split into teams, assigned a team leader and told tp follow that person to the train staion. Turns put it was a door to door sales job. I quit before we got to the train station.
I had previously worked with industrial robots and automation. Fixing them, calibrating them, making hardware and software adjustments as needed.
I was between jobs and found a small business that seemed like it was looking to do some automation expansion. The interview was a little weird because they were kind of vague with specifics. That’s not entirely abnormal with companies that have proprietary processes or automation, though I felt they were being a little bit overly cagey.
They wouldn’t take me into the clean room, which again isn’t unheard of, if in my opinion a little overly protective.
My previous job had been partially titled “Maintenance” (as in I maintained the robots) and the small company asked quite a lot about my versatility in maintaining things. I think that makes sense for a small company to want one person do all things for a robot.
I get a call that I’m hired. On paper the job looks good. Pay is a little low but this was an in-between job.
I show up for the first day of work and one of the first things I have to sign is a 15 page front and back Non Disclosure Agreement. That’s an insane length. My previous job with a huge, established tech company was a two page NDA and they actually had a lot of different processes.
So, I sign their crazy NDA and I’m taken into the airquotes “clean room”. First thing I notice is that I’m not suiting up or even putting on a white room style jacket. I see a cup of coffee on a “clean room” work bench. This is not a clean room.
I’m walked through and out of the “clean room” and to the outside back of the building and shown some air conditioner units. Told I need to work on those to fix them, and then later in the week I’ll be cutting the grass.
So I was in college at this time and I had applied for and got hired at McDonald’s. I had previous experience working at McDonald’s in a different town. Not sure exactly what position it was anymore but something something lead I think. Anywho at the end of the ‘your hired’ talk the manager that did the hiring told me that the Christmas party was like that weekend and I should really show up to meet everybody. So despite not working a single day I show up for the Christmas party.
Well, her boss (the boss of the person who hired me) saw me and determined my hair was too long for a guy and fired me. He basically said that boys were to have essentially a 1950s men’s haircuts if they were going to work for him… At McDonald’s. I don’t remember the specific words but I remember getting the vibe that he was very homophobic and that he thought long hair was somehow gay. So I was given the ultimatum of getting a proper men’s haircut or I could be done. And despite not being gay myself I didn’t want to work for some dude who just oozed homophobia, so I peaced out and told everyone I could at the manager of that McDonald’s was a homophobic piece of shit.
For those wondering how long was my hair… It just barely touched the collar of my shirt, if it even touched. You know the ‘broke college student who can’t afford or remember when the last haircut was’ look.
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I work in it company that support small business. a customer of ours has an employee demographic of about 90% women they had hired a marketing guy and I was setting up his work laptop around noon after talking with him about 10 minutes and getting his desk set up I knew this guy wasn’t going to last long with him mansplaining how it was done back before Windows 95. The paperwork for his termination had already been started by 4:00 p.m.
Not exactly on topic but in the spirit of this post have a funny story. Hired a young lady recently entering the work force. She had been working about a week when we did our payroll run. This entailed printing out all the checks with pay details etc. Is done in an administrative office that is obviously kind of private. Not some place you would wake in without permission. Anyhow we started the payroll print and my manager stepped out briefly to get a coffee. When she came back this new employee was flipping thru everyone’s pay check. Of course my manager immediately asks what she is doing to which she responds ‘oh I’m just wondering what everyone is being paid’.
She honestly thought it was just fine to not only start flipping thru paperwork in the managers office but to also look over employee payroll checks. She simply had no idea and just stated what she was doing like it was just fine. Actually that was her saving grace. While we made it quite clear how inappropriate it was, being it was her first job, we chalked that down to immaturity and didn’t let her go on the spot. Had she been older that likely would have been her last day.
Mind you she only last a week longer for a myriad of other reasons. Little common sense.
it was just fine to not only start flipping thru paperwork in the managers office but to also look over employee payroll checks
Hey so believe it or not but she was right; people should have the right to know what their coworkers get paid. Stop pretending it’s supposed to be secret.
Workers should be allowed to discuss their pay if they choose. They shouldn’t be able to access peoples’ private financial information because they feel like it.
Fuck no. People have the right to keep their wages secret if they want. It is up to them to disclose that at their choice only. I certainly as their boss would not disclose the hours or wages someone gets without permission. Are you for real?
Bullshit. People get various wages because typically they have different skills and some are definitely more motivated or at a different point in their careers. The new hire that is not fully trained for their job, comes with no experience and has yet to master skills should get the same wages as the person that has been there for twenty years? That is mental.
I don’t like this weird culture of paying people different wages for the same jobs.
Ideally people would be paid the value of their labour. People with the same job often have different labour values. So that’s a good reason for people to have different pay for the same job. A roofer that can lay more shingles, waste less material to bad cuts, and build roofs that don’t need leak in the warranty period deserves to be paid a lot more than one that is slow, wasteful and sloppy.
But there are also bad reasons for people to get paid more for the same job. Eg Skin colour, height, corporate bullshitting, gender.
I agree compensation transparency is good but I don’t think the answer is new hires snooping on people’s pay stubs.
Sure- but it’s not something for you to be able to look at just because you want to. If I don’t want you to know something about me you don’t have the right to know.
You’re a fucking moron for believing this. It is literally only advantageous to the owners and investors in everyone keeping their wages secret. Obviously the activity described by OP is pretty dumb but to the larger point everyone should openly discuss how much they earn, only detriment is showing how unequal and stagnant wages are.
We hired a receptionist who didn’t know how to use a computer. Couldn’t type or even use a mouse. This was at a small tech company maybe 20 years ago and she was 20 something at the time. She interviewed normally and I guess someone else wrote her resume. I don’t know if she thought she would just figure it out on the job? We did skills and typing tests after that.
In the finals of my programmer apprenticeship was a multi table excel section (on paper of course) that had a 25% weight.
What was very confusing for like everyone.
Excel makes no sense, we can make a database and use SQL or something but not excel
On his first day, he came on to one of the women I worked with very aggressively and shortly after told another to “bring me a cup of tea, quickly” while on the way to a meeting.
He was escorted off the premises by several other members of staff a few hours into the day once all of his system access had been revoked.
I’m sad to say this, because I know what a bad rap this field gets already and I know so many lovely people who are part of it… But, they worked in InfoSec.
I worked at a tiny hospital in a rural area as the sole IT admin. They hired a new Director of Nursing, a very long process because we were so rural it was very difficult to convince people to move out there to work. They had helped her find and buy a house, helped her husband get a job in the area, enrolled their kids in the local school system. They had me buy a new computer specifically for her and asked me to come in early and be available to help with any computer problems on her first day.
She didn’t show up at all that day. People were pretty panicked about it. Next day she did show up, although about an hour late (not that anyone complained about it) and they rolled out the red carpet and everything. I spent most of the morning helping her get access to things and then she was off to more important things.
Next day she didn’t show up at all again.
That one orientation meeting was the only time I ever saw her, a few days later they asked me to terminate her accounts, preserve emails and pull security camera footage. I still don’t know what was going on. Drugs? If she had another job opportunity it seems pretty crazy to buy a house and move your whole family. She almost certainly would have been the highest paid employee, probably within the top 5 for the whole town.
But yeah, I guess if you don’t show up and don’t have a good excuse things end pretty quickly.
We hired a person who lived hours away from our office. To save on hotel, he had the bright idea to spend his first work-week nights at a non-stop bar (open 24h/7). He showed up still drunk on his second day. We let him go on day 2.
First morning at the job he comes in wanting to impress, so he copies some company data to his personal laptop to do extra work at home. He got fired at noon. The official reason was that he had copied that stuff without authorization, but a more likely reason was that someone had accidentally written an extra zero on the offer they made him, because it was several times above average in the area.
An old restaurant I worked at hired a new chef. He came in, completely rearranged the kitchen, changed the menu top to bottom ON HIS FIRST DAY, and introduced a bunch of complicated specials. Dinner service hits, chaos ensues and dude disappears.
I was on expo watching everything fall apart when one of the line cooks is like, “get chef,I don’t know how to make this special because there’s no recipe or notes”
I go into the walk in and he’s haunched over in there and violently turns, around inhaling, all bug eyed. I told him we needed help. He doesn’t hide his annoyance goes on the line, makes the one dish in question and is like, “see, that wasn’t difficult” and disappeared again.
The line cook asked why I had the look on my face that I did and I said it was because chef was doing rails in the walk in. We both laughed, shook our heads and got through service eventually. Drugs are pretty common in the service industry but even that seemed extreme.
Anyhow we didn’t see him for the rest of the night. Next day, I get to work and the owner is there and he pulls me aside and told me what happened after. Owner didn’t even know he’d been snorting shit during the dinner rush
Chef continued his one man party and went into the booze closet and proceeded to help himself. When the prep cook showed up the next morning the kitchen door was wide open so she called the police thinking the place had been robbed. The police went in and found Chef semi conscious and incoherent, giggling in the office. He was fired and since he was a keyholder all the locks and alarm codes had to be changed
I’ve never seen someone self destruct that spectacularly.
To have been a fly on the wall when they called the other guy chef beat out for the gig and told him he could start immediately…
I think the dude could actually cook. He’d been a chef at a resort in the Caribbean previous to that… makes sense: he cooked somewhere out of the country and I’m not sure if the owners reached out to that place.
He was a pushy prima Donna chef with ego and swagger. Dude was a skilled bullshitter who talked over people and I immediately didn’t like him but I’m sure he knew how to sell himself when he was interviewed.
The guy who replaced him was also a total dick (what is it with chefs?) But at least he could hold it together. Amusingly you could tell he didn’t want to be there: it was a Mexican place and he put meatloaf and a seared ahi tuna sandwich on the menu. His concession was adding cilantro, chilies or something to them. I left that place a few months later and he didn’t last much longer
On the plus side, I negotiated to work remotely for a few weeks, due to needing to relocate.
So- I was actually able to work both my current job, and the “new” job without losing time for either job.
So, on the plus side, I didn’t lose anything, and got an extra paycheck for a few days. But, man, that would have been really shitty if I had relocated, and THEN got that notification.
As another interesting note, I discovered the other head-dev was only getting compensated 30-40k a year… for literally managing a world-wide system. He doesn’t work there either now.
If an employer or prospective employer rescinds their job offer, or makes significant changes to the employment contract, through no fault of your own then you may have reason to engage an attorney and discuss Promissory Estoppel.
I am not a lawyer but it’s worth knowing the laws :)