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Duke_Nukem_1990 , (edited )

Killing animals for pleasure.

Edit: I love how the voting discrepancy here shows the hypocrisy lol

Trail ,

This is generally illegal and heavily fined as well. Depends on where you live, I guess.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Taste pleasure.

Mothra ,
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Also depends on which animals

IoSapsai ,

It’s generally legal and heavily subsidised. See also animal agriculture.

otp ,

Sustenance is different from pleasure

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

So you agree that if it isn’t for sustenance, in the case where you can just simply eat something else, it should be illegal?

otp ,

Sustenance doesn’t mean “the only thing available”.

Look, I’m excited for lab-grown meat. I’ve reduced my meat consumption significantly over the last year or two. I may not be “in your camp” exactly, but I’m an ally. And it’s probably better to earn and keep allies than to argue semantics in an adversarial way. Win more flies with honey and all that.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

I assume you agree o the general statement “Animals shouldn’t be killed for pleasure.”

If you then have two options for food, one including animal meat and one without, all other things being equal, even nutrition wise, then how is it not “for pleasure” to chose the option with meat?

otp ,

Killing for pleasure implies hunting for sport.

Chopping up a cow so that tons of people can buy its meat is different than someone hunting bears for sport and leaving the corpse where it lands.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Killing for pleasure implies hunting for sport.

??? lmao no it doesn’t.

otp ,

Sorry that your metaphor didn’t land with everyone.

AnarchistsForKamala ,

for most people making taht decision does not involve killing anything. both options have already been harvested and presented.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

“Harvested” xD nice euphemism

AnarchistsForKamala ,

how else do you describe gathering farmed food?

AnarchistsForKamala ,

no one said that. you’re making a leap of logic.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

It was a question. I said that.

AnarchistsForKamala ,

that’s not killing for pleasure.

Kit ,

Does your country not allow hunting?

stoy ,

Hunting isn’t purely done for fun, it is also done to harvest meat

AnarchistsForKamala ,

and ecological conservation

stoy ,

Absolutely, the biggest nature lovers in my family are all hunters, they enjoy being in the woods, they enjoy seeing animals, they follow the rules to only harvest as much they are allowed and only during the season permitted.

Cryophilia ,

In my country it’s mostly done for fun.

stoy ,

So people go out, shoot a deer and just leave it there?

Seems like an extreme waste to me…

Cryophilia ,

It’s usually not that much extra effort to take the carcass and bring it to a butcher, so they do that sometimes. But yeah. Often, just leave it.

It’s actually not all that bad because we have a lack of natural predators (because we already hunted them almost to extinction) so hunting keeps the deer population from exploding.

stoy ,

Ok, so they also do make a good deed in adition to just hunting.

Cryophilia ,

More like helping fix a problem they caused in the first place, but yeah.

swordgeek ,

Trophy hunting, after all this time, is still legal and big business.

Mothra ,
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

Supermarkets and businesses throwing food away and not allowing people to take it for free. (“If I can’t sell it nobody can have it”).

Cryophilia ,

Would only work if you also made them immune from lawsuits due to people getting sick from eating expired food.

wewbull ,

The food would presumably “last moment before expiry” i.e. we can’t sell this tomorrow so we give it away tonight.

Zak ,
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Expiration dates on packaged food are almost always about how enjoyable the food is to eat, not safety. Donating expired packaged food with legal protection from liability would be good for the world.

eldavi ,

they already are under the good samaritan laws; they use lawsuits as an excuse for their shitty behavior.

Cryophilia ,

Depends on your location. Good Samaritan laws vary widely.

dwindling7373 ,

Gambling, overtime working.

shapesandstuff ,

Private cars in cities.
They’re noisy, unhealthy, cause massive damage to infrastructure, transport one person at a time while taking up enough space for ~10 in the road, fill open spaces for parking, sometimes while being completely unusable, endanger everyone else on the roads…

M500 ,

Masturbating on a plane.

Willy ,

I assume you mean while on a plane and not onto a plane. Also assuming you mean while on a public plane. Pretty sure masturbating while in public might be a bit illegal at least for dudes, and for anyone whipping it out to get off wouldn’t the exposing ones genitals in public just top it off?

Etterra ,

Unlimited political spending, particularly by corporations - see Citizen’s United.

ChrisMcMillan ,

Campaign financing in general. If you get enough signatures you’ll get a fixed amount of money from tax payers for your campaign. If you accept money from anyone else you’re barred from public office for life. End of corruption right there.

Shotgun_Alice ,

Advertising. I just hate how it’s crept into every facet of our lives and it’s not done intruding in on our daily lives either.

FrostyCaveman ,

Yep. It’s insane to me how society goes to such lengths to make road transportation, driving, cars etc safer, and then is perfectly fine with billboards. It’s super illegal to be distracted by your phone whilst driving, but a giant graphical ad on the side of the road is totally cool. Whut

eran_morad ,
  • not having the day off to vote
  • FPTP
  • unlimited funding from unrestricted sources in politics
  • impunity for blatantly corrupt unelected political appointees

Etc.

stoy ,

not having the day off to vote

Most crountries have elections on thw weekend…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_day

rudyharrelson ,

Lots of people work on weekends.

stoy ,

Yep?

But less people work on weekends than on weekdays.

There is no universal day for everyone to make it, which is why Sweden offers pre-election voting and voting by mail, plenty of other countries does as well.

Zak ,
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

Locked bootloaders

bzarb8ni ,

Not really something that is legal that should be illegal, but I would love to see this nonsense that corporate executives can’t be held criminally responsible (the corporation is) for their illegal acts. I think it would correct an awful lot of shitty things corporations do really quickly (assuming enforcement).

wewbull ,

I think all those in the management chain should be held responsible. Maybe with a weighting of the proportion of those under them engaged in the criminal behaviour.

bzarb8ni ,

Yeah, I like that! 👍 Corporations don’t make decisions… Those people do

stoy ,

It should be treated as in the military, “I was just following orders” is not an excuse.

paddirn ,

Ridiculous rental prices and annual rent increases with no improvements to show for it.

WagnasT ,

Requiring the purchase or use of proprietary software or formats to view or submit public records.

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Hanging the toilet paper the wrong way.

wildcardology ,

Why does people care how they hang their toilet paper in their own bathroom?

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

It was a joke.

dwindling7373 ,

Making more than 10x the money of your least paid employee.

wewbull ,

I get where you’re coming from, but I think you’d just see companies divide into tiers where one tier would subcontract to the tier below. Think “cleaning services companies” all the way down.

dwindling7373 ,

Well I don’t expect the exact phrasing of the code of law to be 11 words.

Trollivier ,

Simple : let’s make that illegal too

Trollivier ,

This.

johannes ,

Talking to me.

dwindling7373 ,

Take me to prison then.

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