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Is there any medicine that can give me happy hormones and does not need a doctor's prescription?

Things are becoming more depressing every day and I can’t afford for professionals and don’t want to jump to the last resort or drugs. Is there a medicine that can make me happy if I take it in proper doses and does not require a doctor’s prescription?

CanadaPlus , (edited )

There’s probably no non-spooky chemical that will make a significant dent. People are recommending, like, chocolate, but I’m certain the main effect is eating your feelings, with substances causing a rounding error.

However, I can predict pretty well what therapist homework would be, or at least what it always was for me. Basically just clean living stuff, and not giving in to the urge to avoid doing things. There’s CBT too, and resources to do it on your own, although it can get confusing without a helping hand. So, yeah, I suggest self-administering therapy. IANAT.

NoSpotOfGround ,

Whenever cognitive behavioral therapy is mentioned with an initialism there’s this risk of losing it to immature giggling when you substitute that other meaning for “CBT”…

CanadaPlus ,

I guess a helping hand is good either way, tee-hee.

Witchfire ,
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A certain fun guy is really nice for this, but start small

3amguy OP ,

I don’t get it.

FalseMyrmidon ,

He's suggesting shrooms

MxRemy ,

All the people saying exercise… I swear that has to vary across people. I went to the gym thrice a week for two years and hated every gd second of it.

3amguy OP ,

I was going to the gym before getting laid off. Gym helped me with my mental health.

I swear that has to vary across people.

I am sorry it didn’t work out for you.

Bloodyhog ,

Then you really are the target audience for all these “go active” advice, which is actually great! The thing is, exercises are great for most relatively healthy people (the ones who do not require professional mental help), as they strengthen your body in the same way as savings strengthen your financials. You just can do a little more of anything with it. So - you are not a lost cause, congrats! ) That said, you do not need a gym to stay fit. Not sure where you live, but there are normally public spaces with fitness equipment available in many urban areas. Or you can google some fitness sets that only need a flat surface for you to do. Something like this would be a good start. And remember, that too shall pass.

CanadaPlus , (edited )

It really does seem to very considerably. I know a guy that’s addicted to running and will just do it all weekend, because he starts and doesn’t want to stop. I’ve never gotten a buzz from physical activity of any kind.

Drusas ,

I've heard of the "runners' high", but even as someone who used to be very athletic, all I ever got was the "runners' 'please fucking kill me right now so I never have to do that again'".

idiomaddict ,

It probably does vary to a degree, but it also needs to be the right kind of exercise for you. I always hated the gym and thought I just hated exercise, but then I discovered folk dancing. I went from never having enjoyed any sort of athletics to dancing 14 hours a week because I fell in love with it.

I didn’t notice immediate effects, but a month or two after I started, I realized that I was cooking more and staying on top of cleaning and errands much more consistently. Then the pandemic hit and I stopped dancing. I started gradually having less motivation to clean or cook. I haven’t started back up sadly, but I got an active job about a year and a half ago, and it was just like before: not until I was getting regular exercise was I really able to stay on top of things and feel like an adult.

aceshigh ,
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Ditto. Exercising never feels good. I don’t like being sweaty and I don’t like moving around unless I’m going somewhere for a purpose. The only way I’m able to “enjoy” it is if I smoke weed before or numb out on a tv show/movie so that I can pretend I’m not exercising. And then after working out I’m exhausted and need a nap. The entire process sucks. I’ve never been into sports either. Or riding the bike or swimming. Yoga is tolerable, but it’s better when I’m high.

survivalmachine ,

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. Sometimes it’s fixed through diet/exercise. Sometimes it’s fixed through therapy. Sometimes it’s fixed through medication. OP is seeking a solution that doesn’t involve prescription meds, so everybody is suggesting other possible solutions. While exercise may not have worked for you or me, there are plenty of people who have successful results with it.

In short, yes, it definitely varies across people.

PastaCeci ,

Why not walk outside instead of going to a sweaty gym and being bored and miserable?

3amguy OP ,

going to a sweaty gym and being bored and miserable?

Going to the gym isn’t exactly like this. It helped me a lot with my mental health but I am in a position now where I can’t resume it, so that’s why I am considering the medicines temporarily.

PastaCeci ,

Please reread this chain, I’m replying to someone who literally said they hated every second of it, if you hate the gym you don’t have to go and there are plenty of other things to do.

TheGalacticVoid ,

Gym going made me uncontrollably hyper. Beat Saber has worked wonders.

flashgnash ,

Have you ever tried pistol whip? That game feels so good to play

TheGalacticVoid ,

I just hate how difficult it is lol

Synth Riders is fun but I still have no clue how to play it

tomi000 ,

Beat Saber 100%. Playing a game ans exercising at the same time, genius.

NineMileTower ,

Exercise can be whatever you want it to be.

Nemo ,

Exercise boosts endorphins.

Physical contact boosts oxytocin.

Sex does both.

Chocolate helps produce serotonin.

Capsaicin-heavy foods will make your body produce adrenaline and endorphins.

Caffeine is a drug but can give you a long hit of dopamine — but overdosing will make anxiety worse, and can fuck with your sleep cycle. It’s also rapidly addictive and the withdrawal symptoms include malaise and depressive feelings.

A stable sleep cycle is A#1 for happiness, though. It won’t make you happy on its own but screwing it up will make you unhappy on its own, so it’s the foundation to build everything else on.

3amguy OP ,

Sex does both.

I wish I had someone for that.

It won’t make you happy on its own but screwing it up will make you unhappy on its own, so it’s the foundation to build everything else on.

My sleep cycle is currently from 4 am to 11 am. Think I should sleep earlier? I do coding at night and surf social media during the day.

medgremlin ,

What the above commenter said is generally good advice, but I would add on limiting your social media intake. Finding an online community to interact with (with voice or video chat kinds of things involved) is a better use of online time. For the coding, you could try moving that to the morning, and socialize in the afternoon/evening, and that will help you get on a more normalized schedule. If your leisure time is spent mostly with other people, it’s a lot easier to sign off and go to bed when everyone else does as well.

Edit: Also throw in a multivitamin and 2000-5000IU of Vitamin D3 because nutritional deficiencies can cause psych problems as well as exacerbate or prolong said psych problems.

Nemo ,

Nah as long as it’s always 4am to 11am you’ll be fine. Consistency is the main thing.

mouserat ,

Try to reduce social media. I did and feel much better without the constant input from others.

Witchfire ,
@Witchfire@lemmy.world avatar

Exercise boosts endorphins.

Physical contact boosts oxytocin.

Sex does both.

My body does not do any of these

mozz , (edited )
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Someone I think on mander.xyz was saying that regular 90-second cold showers seemed anecdotally to be maybe competitive with medication in terms of how well it combatted depression

Apytele ,

Yes and no (and a disclaimer: I’m only a nurse). There are several herbs that work similarly to Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs). The issue being that they therefore have the same risks as SSRIs: the two big ones being serotonin syndrome (all your vital signs shoot up until it kills you) and less dangerously but not really less unpleasantly, mania and/or psychosis if that’s something your genetics have predisposed you do. These are both a lot less likely with herbs than medications because they’re much weaker, but it’s still possible, and especially if you take them WITH an SSRI. There are also some recreational drugs (shrooms, lsd, MDMA) that can cause serotonin syndrome when you take too much or take them with other serotonin boosting medications. I don’t recommend you play with this kind of thing without medical supervision. I actually had one of our severe bipolar cases come back to us high as tits because they swapped their mood stabilizer for a serotonergic herb, it was a mess.

Anyway the big three are St John’s Wort, Ashwaganda, and Moringa. L-tryptophan is also known to boost serotonin, but that’s just because it’s one of the building blocks your body needs to make it. Melatonin can also help your serotonin because it and serotonin turn into each other as part of the cycle of your circadian rhythm but be careful not to take too much of it because you’ll start having extremely bizarre nightmares.

But like I said, you’re better off talking to a doctor about this before you find out you’ve been bipolar II this entire time when the herbs you bought on Amazon turn it into bipolar I and you spend a month in a psych ward thinking your you’re the second coming of Christ and putting chess pieces in your ass to fight the demons.

JackFrostNCola ,

Pawn to A5.

Dolphinfreetuna ,

You sank my battleship!

3amguy OP ,

Anyway the big three are St John’s Wort, Ashwaganda, and Moringa.

Do they require a doctor’s prescription? Do they have addictive effects?

ickplant ,
@ickplant@lemmy.world avatar

None require a prescription, and as far as I know none of these are addictive.

guillem ,
@guillem@aussie.zone avatar

St John’s Wort can interact with several medications.

tga.gov.au/…/st-johns-wort-important-interactions…

200ok ,

This is anecdotal, but I got horrible nightmares while trying Ashwaganda.

Behaviorbabe ,

Just mentioning this because I see all the others: spicy food. Your brain makes happy chemicals to help with the pain, apparently.

Nemo ,

Adrenaline and endorphins, specifically.

sentient_loom , (edited )
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5-HTP is a mood-regulating supplement, like a mild anti-depressant. I once took it for a year and it actually helped. But for the first week it made me more emotional. Read about it on webMD so you understand it and the risks.

But the real answer is exercise, healthy diet, and maybe vitamin D. Boring answer, I know, but the absolute best one too.

WeirdGoesPro ,
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Be careful if you take MDMA or any other serotonin drug while on 5-HTP. This supplement assists the body in making serotonin, and can cause serotonin storm in rare cases when combined with party drugs.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, I think this includes psychedelics. Magic mushrooms for sure.

Pulptastic ,

Exercise, sauna, and completing small projects can help.

Mrkawfee ,

I know it sounds obvious but walking or any light cardio will do wonders for your mood. Pilates also.

viralJ ,

It’s not universal though. I’ve been regularly doing 60-minute cardio workouts for the last 10 years or so. Not once did I experience the “runner’s high”. I’m pretty sure I’m an outlier though.

idiomaddict ,

It sounds like you might just be too fit for that to work. I used to do 14 hours of (recreational) dance a week and I would only really get a runners high when I went to a weekend long dance event and was doing cardio for at least 6+ hours.

Or it’s not universal, who knows.

dingus ,

Not OP, but that’s a nope from me. I’ve been trying to break into up jogging, so I’m nowhere near “too fit”. Not getting that runner’s high during or after any of these sessions. I mostly just feel like I’m dying both during and afterward. Any small positive effect I get from it is being able to check off the boxes in the app I’m using lol.

viralJ ,

Hehe, what gives me a “high” after a workout is looking at the recording of my heart rate and seeing the peaks and valleys. I do HIIT so there’s a lot of them.

Makhno ,

I have constant anxiety and low dopamine. I take Ephedrine, and it’s worked miracles for me. It even helps me concentrate throughout the day.

I prefer Primatine, but Bronkaid also works. Both can be bought over the counter with an ID

Drusas ,

This is a drug, which OP said they're avoiding. It's also potentially dangerous.

Makhno ,

Medicine is drugs, dummy. And ephedrine is safer than ibuprofen, so do a little research before you drop a dumb comment

Drusas ,

Wow, did you miss the point. Yes, I was pointing out that ephedrine--a medication--is a drug.

And no, it is not as safe as you make it out to be. I have both "done my research" and spoken with a couple of physicians about it.

Makhno ,

What medications aren’t drugs? Please, give me a list.

And your anecdotal “research” doesn’t really mean shit against the mountain of evidence towards ephedrine’s safety. It’s one of the longest studied stimulants on the planet.

Drusas , (edited )

Yeah, that's why I made fun of you suggesting I do my own research.

You have completely misunderstood this entire conversation. I just said that medications are drugs. Are you high? Is that why you can't figure out basic statements?

If so, that's fine, you're welcome to be high, but you might want to stop commenting on the internet.

Makhno ,

You’re a moron with no point, holy shit lol

shinigamiookamiryuu ,

If you rule out doctor’s medicine, you’d without a doubt be talking about someone or something to console in. The last time you were happy, what were you doing?

idiomaddict ,

If hard or traditional exercise is a problem motivation-wise or physically, you might want to try something like Pokémon Go. PG uses scammy mobile game tactics, which is normally bad, but it does help with motivation. You can also try ingress (which I can’t speak to), orna (does not use scammy tactics, and is better from a privacy standpoint, but is easier to put down as a result), or something similar. Walking outside is pretty low impact and a good way to get vitamin D. I have a much easier time setting off with a couple of bottles of water, some coffee, and a battery pack for a several hour long walk or just getting out of bed and going for a walk around the block if I know I’ll get something out of it in the short term as well.

LainTrain , (edited )

Medicine is drugs.

Try 5-HTP as a supplement if you believe you have low serotonin levels for some reason. It’s a precursor to Serotonin so if there is a chemical reason your body is producing insufficient amounts then it can help, alongside L-Tyrosine which is the same thing but for dopamine. CBD supplements, if actually legitimately containing CBD can have some anxiolytic properties.

Otherwise everything else is illegal.

Sorry honey, but under capitalism you’re supposed to buy worthless shit to stave off the alienation and misery and uhh like drugs are bad m’kay. Go get into K-Pop or “Gadgets” instead, heard there’s some hot spicy influencer drama in these! Lotta ads to watch! And remember: Don’t think, just buy product and get excited for the next product.

You might consider an MDMA, DMT or LSD trip to figure out why you’re unhappy.

Do not buy drugs on the street, they are shit quality for shitty prices, you will get ripped off. Don’t buy from DNMs overseas, customs do not fuck around. In UK/West EU order to home as normal, in US order to non-home mailboxes, in East EU order to dead drops. Make sure to research how to stay safe, what markets to use, how to get Monero and how to use PGP and maybe Tails depending on OpSec risk appetite, I think Dread (ddg it with tor!) has a few guides for this.

EDIT: Make sure to set Tor to safest to disable JavaScript, you won’t need it and it only creates threats.

Go for lower dosages and make sure to get powder for MDMA, it should be light brown in colour. Test it! MDMA is part stim, part empathogen.

For DMT: get a proper high end vape tank DMT vape with a 510 off a respected seller on a DNM and buy a proper mod - don’t buy the crappy eGO style tanks/“carts”. DMT is a pure psych, very shroom-esque but without the shroom common side effects like diarrhea and uncontrollable vomiting and lasts only 15 mins.

For LSD make sure to take some time off work or do it when you won’t be disturbed in general, preferably for at least 48 hours, as a trip can last 12-16. I’d go for 100ug - tabs are often under dosed so go if brave go for 120ug, don’t buy tabs with overly elaborate art as that can be a sign that more effort went into the marketing than anything else, but make sure to get a test kit to make sure it’s not NBOME, that drug is nice as well but it’s not LSD and vendors don’t dose it properly which can kill you.

Other than psychs: Amphetamine and/or nicotine will make you happy generally, but unless you have ADHD the effect may be too negligible to be worth it.

If your source of unhappiness is anxiety then you can take an anxiolytic like a benzodiazepine. Do not do that.

There’s also Alcohol and Opioids but these barely do anything honestly when it comes to actual happiness. I would not do THC in an unhappy state, it’s like 75% anxiety and hunger.

Or you can try therapy, but that shit never worked for me, turns out the world is just shit and my life was shit as a result, taking drugs helped/helps me cope with that and I try to improve my material circumstances as much as possible, I’ve never really had mental health issues though I just had shit mental health due to my material conditions so YMMV and GL, the first step to fixing an issue is identifying there is an issue. Try to identify what the issue is next.

LrdThndr ,

Lot of jargon in this that most of us don’t understand. Dnm? Ddg? Can you explain it more clearly for us general admission ticket holders?

Also, thoughts on shrooms?

LainTrain , (edited )

DNM - Dark Net Market. A marketplace that is accessible exclusively via onion routing with an .onion domain, via the Tor browser.

Silk Road, Dream, Empire, Wall Street, Nightmare and ASAP were some of the major ones in the past.

DDG - DuckDuckGo. A search engine that is alternative to Google. It can be useful for searching for information regarding this stuff via tor (and is the one in use by default via it’s .onion domain in the tor browser).

Shrooms are cool and lots of people love them, but I don’t because it never sits well with my body, it always gives me stomach problems ranging from light nausea and stomachache to very gross stuff like vomiting, not something i want to experience in an already vulnerable psychological state.

3amguy OP ,

You might consider an MDMA, DMT or LSD trip to figure out why you’re unhappy.

No, I don’t want to get into drugs. I know things are hard for me but it will only make things work. Some comments here told me the same, recommending mushrooms, and other recreational drugs but I know it will only make things worse.

One day other people having the same problems as me will find this thread and I don’t want them to take the wrong way.

Try 5-HTP as a supplement if you believe you have low serotonin levels for some reason.

I will find out what this is. Thanks for your comment.

LainTrain ,

That’s fair, you do you.

GlitterInfection ,

There are lots of medicines that can help, but none of them should be taken without working with professionals.

Please be careful pf taking any medical advice from strangers on the internet that isn’t “you need to talk with a licensed professional.”

Even suggesting diet and exercise and vitamin D can be harmful advice under the wrong circumstances.

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