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PM_ME_FEET_PICS ,

Unions protect lazy workers and friends and family.

Literally having several issues with my union and the CEO isn’t helping me. What the fuck do I pay them for?

American_Communist22 ,
@American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Shut it, pig

HawlSera ,

The amount of effort your company goes into dissuading you from starting a Union, is proportional to how much you need one.

fmstrat ,

The first repost bot to make my All feed.

BreadJuice ,

What is the job of this bot? reposting reddit here?

fmstrat ,

Seems that way (look at it’s profile). Interesting timing given I recently commented in a post where I said that some people do like these bots (even if I don’t).

Anticorp ,

How is this legal?

Nipplecreek ,

I work for a massive massive corp and we watch anti union videos (it’s required) I think once a year in our online courses.

JokeDeity ,

Almost everywhere I’ve ever worked has forced me to sit through anti union videos, but the place I’m currently at had by far the longest, most forceful and blatantly filled with fabrication video by far. It’s not at all surprising to say that it’s BY FAR the worst job I’ve ever had in my life. Don’t work for Big Lots if you can find ANYTHING else guys, it’s not worth the pain.

Anticorp ,

Sorry you had to go through that. I’m pretty sure Walmart is just as bad, with Target and any similar store trailing close behind.

JokeDeity ,

I highly doubt it. I’ve worked many retail jobs including several other stores, none came even in the same ballpark as being as bad as Big Lots.

ZombieTheZombieCat ,

Went through the same thing with Ross. Absolute shit show of a company and they treat their workers like trash. Of course we had to sit through a blatant anti union video the first day.

phoenixz ,

People shoukd go into a video screening like that and all collectively (get it?) bring eggs and toss them when that anti union video starts

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

That’s the best part! It’s not!

But since nobody actually enforces the laws that make this illegal, everybody fucking does it. I can’t think of a single job I’ve ever worked that didn’t have anti-union posters except for the one job I’ve had that was union.

GBU_28 ,

Wait how is passive illegal? I thought the intimidation had to be active

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

It depends on the state. For a majority of states like California and Minnesota? Illegal. Texas? They can force you to go to anti-union meetings and more and it’s legal.

divdivspan ,

hmmm, maybe cover up that qr code with this one…? 🤭

gotta be plenty of label printers around the warehouse this would fit on 💪 https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7d6f1279-93c2-4ef6-87d8-2a5a5ab28735.jpeg

JokeDeity ,

I thought this was against the law?

bhamlin ,

Passive posters like this aren’t. Actively intimidating potential members is. And interfering with a vote is super illegal.

But posters aren’t.

LilDestructiveSheep ,
@LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world avatar

As long as you don’t get caught, there’s no one to blame. That’s what they do.

Ryumast3r ,

Amazon denied that they were doing it as a company (of course they did).

Luckily, the union won this election and it was certified in january of this year

LilDestructiveSheep ,
@LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world avatar

100% they did.

random65837 ,

There’s nothing illegal about putting up a poster with nonsense on it. People like to over react on those. Putting up a question isn’t Union busting.

13esq ,

In the UK, any prejudice towards union activities is illegal.

As a business owner, you could say “I don’t like unionism” etc. But you couldn’t ask your employees to grass up fellow colleagues for talking about unionism.

random65837 ,

Yup, pretty much the same here. Most of the things that people flip out about are super vague, harmless, and wouldn’t convince anybody of anything.

DeathWearsANecktie ,

Yes, union life is for you. JOIN A UNION!

DrownedRats ,
@DrownedRats@lemmy.world avatar

Obligatory, “if a company is trying to convince you you don’t need a union, you need a union”.

MrTulip ,

Unions are like condoms, in that regard.

guacupado ,

“Have to go through a union instead of a supervisor or manager.”

Like anyone wants to go to an Amazon manager.

const_void ,

That was my first thought. Sounds like a great benefit.

NBJack ,

“Hey Manager Amy Zone, can I have a bit of time off for my leg to heal? It was just partially crushed by a stack of Prime Day boxes.”

“Employee 3869310, in the time it took you to get across the warehouse to ask me that dumbass question, you just used up the last of your bathroom breaks for the day. As an act of mercy, here’s my empty Amazon Basics Hyrdration Drink bottle. Just try not to piss all over the floor when you use it. Now get your ass back to work!”

random65837 ,

There’s also the fact that that’s not true.

ThatFembyWho ,

The creepy part is how you’re supposed to turn in anyone who discusses unions or unionizing.

They literally tell you “if you hear someone discussing something against the company’s best interests, say something!”

TwoGems ,
@TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

How’s it not illegal?

name_NULL111653 ,

Because Amazon can afford lawyers, and people who work for Amazon can’t…

It’s only illegal if the person you hurt is rich enough to sue you…

Adalast ,

Ding ding ding, it is absolutely illegal. If I’m not mistaken the existence of the posters at all is illegal, not just certain parts. But the labor boards won’t go after them since they are one of the biggest employers in the country for now. Believe me, that won’t last. In the next few years they will have the packing centers 100% automated and eliminate the majority of the 950,000 jobs they “provide”.

youtu.be/r2VcA7nMJs8?si=858h0BwcIqavhQDp

name_NULL111653 ,

Exactly what I mean. It’s illegal, but to them it’s not because they’re so rich that, apparently, they’re now above the law…

Shialac ,

murica

Omega_Haxors ,

They used to send the actual military to shoot at people attempting to unionize.

anarchy79 ,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Crazy that they are using the same tactics to hinder unionizing that they used a hundred years ago.

Wisely ,

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  • gsf ,

    Which grocery store and which union

    SoleInvictus ,
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    Seriously, I’ve never heard of a union whose dues are 25%.

    Wisely , (edited )

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  • Adalast ,

    If you belonged to a union that brought you below minimum wage with dues, then something very wrong was going on. (disclaimer, I am not a lawyer, I just care about my rights A LOT) The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) defines the minimum wage and specifically prevents employers from deducting the costs of doing business from employee wages. Things like equipment, uniforms, cash drawer shortages, broken merchandise, etc. The FLAS does permit deductions for things like unemployment insurance, health savings accounts, etc., and does include union dues as exempt and able to be deducted as a general statement. That said, the two are not intrinsically linked. The FLSA generally states that minimum wage is the MINIMUM. I was not able to find an exhaustive list of exemptions, but what I did find was slim to say the least. I’m pretty sure that them reducing your wage below minimum with union dues, which were supposed to be voluntary as well, was illegal. I am more than open to being corrected though and I would love to have a referral to the FLSA section that codifies it.

    sin_free_for_00_days ,

    Sounds like a union bought off by the corporation. Most unions are very beneficial to workers.

    anarchy79 ,
    @anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

    That sounds less than believable.

    38fhh2f8th5819c7 ,

    I call bullshit. Care to name the company and the union?

    EmperorHenry ,
    @EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    One of the many reasons why I refuse to buy anything on amazon.

    Kind ,

    If conditions were left up to corporations children would still be working, we’d be doing 12 hours a day 6 days a week and Charles Dickens a Christmas Carol would be an autobiography on the current bestsellers list.

    Corporations are interested in making profits, paying shareholders, managers getting their bonuses, workers are don’t make the top 10.

    Prior_Industry ,

    The fact they are putting these up should let you know it’s something you want to join

    tvbusy ,

    Agree. I don’t understand why Amazon thinks this will help, like “hello people, Union is a thing that we’re really afraid of, haven’t you heard?”

    Raz ,

    Because they want to plant that seed of doubt and fear.

    Might not work for you, but unfortunately there are a lot of naive or insecure folks out there.

    gmtom ,

    If you can think critically, sure. But large amounts of the population are dumb as bricks and will believe this literally just because it’s on a poster.

    Shialac ,

    People are so used to getting gaslit by megacorps, they just eat that shit up unquestioned

    asynts ,
    @asynts@lemmy.world avatar

    I do feel like this is smart. The first two points are whatever but the third one “typically you must go through union instead of your supervisor or manager” makes it sound like there is a lot of bureaucratic overhead to it. People who are undecided could feel that it’s too much effort.

    IronpigsWizard ,

    It is always the same tactic again and again and again. Constant variations of, “unions steal your money via dues and you have no guarantee of benefits then, but you do right now”.

    It’s exhausting.

    The same tactic, damn near the same words, are used for the same purpose since at least the 1800s. It works well enough that they just slightly modernize the language and that is that.

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