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Valmond , to technology in Microsoft accidentally leaks internal tool that can enable hidden Windows 11 features

Like how to get publicity when you’re using windows media, or delete all non subscription software from the system, or how to make the CPU run at 15% when idle(oh no it’s already a windows 10 feature)…

silverbax , to technology in Microsoft accidentally leaks internal tool that can enable hidden Windows 11 features

Nice try, Microsoft, trying to get people to use Windows 11. Just focus on fixing Windows 12 and cut your losses.

Noodlez , to technology in Microsoft accidentally leaks internal tool that can enable hidden Windows 11 features

BetaWiki is gonna go wild with this.

knobbysideup , to technology in Microsoft accidentally leaks internal tool that can enable hidden Windows 11 features

“accidentally”

Your platform is not exciting Microsoft. It’s also a royal pain to manage or fix.

A “leak” of tools that should just be out there to begin with is lame.

curiousaur , to gaming in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'

Not interested at all. Steam os has spoiled gamers with the quick booting, flexibility, and pause / resume. It’s over for windows.

HughJanus ,

MS has a handheld gaming OS in the works.

bear ,

They don’t; there was an internal tech demo that never went anywhere but was spread around online a few months ago with a bunch of misinformation that Microsoft was preparing to fight the Steam Deck head on.

gamerant.com/microsoft-windows-handheld-mode-leak…

the developer also noted that the project itself “didn’t go much of anywhere.”

HughJanus ,

Well that’s a shame but thanks for the update on that.

altima_neo , to technology in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'
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Man, everyones jumping in onto the handheld gaming PC segment. Pretty cool. Hopefully it will light a fire under Nintendo’s butt to do better with its hardware.

worfamerryman ,

I hope they done, typically Nintendo systems are able to be emulated on mediocre hardware 😂😂

N00b22 ,

Yeah because I can totally emulate a Switch game on my Core 2 Duo…

worfamerryman ,

That’s taking it to the extreme, but I can emulate switch with no problem using. An rx 470 4gb model. That’s like under $100.

I can’t emulate Xbox 1 at all.

thepixelfox ,
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Yet the sales figures show Nintendo have amazing sales.

  1. PS2 - 159 million.
  2. Nintendo DS - 154.02 million.
  3. Nintendo switch - 125.62 million
  4. Gameboy/ Gameboy colour - 118.69 million
  5. PS4 - 117.2 million.

3 out of the 5 top sales belong to Nintendo. So regardless of hardware, Nintendo is a loved gaming system.
Whereas Xbox is number 9 on that list with the 360 at 85 million. So the console war seems to be between Nintendo and Sony at this point.

SatanicNotMessianic ,

I think Nintendo knows it’s market pretty well. I have both a switch and a steam deck andO have a lot of the same games on each. The deck is obviously the higher power unit. I got it just a short time ago to try to play through my backlog, although to be honest I’ve logged more hours on new purchases like Stray and Dredge. It’s a good system.

The switch outshines it in a couple of places, though. First, they got the form factor - specifically the size and weight - better than steam did. It’s smaller and lighter, and I think the battery lasts longer. More importantly, the games that run on the switch were made for it. There’s no squinting at tiny fonts or trying to figure whether and how to use the trackpad to control the mouse bits. If it’s on the switch, I can be pretty sure it is playable on the switch. I’m still getting used to the issues with scaling down the desktop experience to a deck, but already I’m thinking I won’t be playing a lot of cyberpunk without booking up a mouse, keyboard, and monitor.

In short, the deck and windows handhelds need to perform at the level of a (low end) desktop (because they’re playing desktop games) as well as worry about scaling and transforming the UI. The switch doesn’t have that problem, and the trade off is a more limited (but still extensive) library.

The switch is my first Nintendo device since the NES, and the first party content isn’t what made me finally try it. I like playing games like Diablo on it. I think Nintendo, by owning the entire stack, can serve up a better and more curated experience. If I didn’t have a library of a couple hundred steam games that I’ve never played, I’d probably not have considered getting the deck. I am enjoying it, and some games are phenomenal, but from a performance-that-actually-impacts-the-user perspective, Nintendo might just come out on top.

HughJanus ,

Ehhh probably not. All these handhelds are going to be significantly more simplex to use rather than the “plug and play” nature of Nintendo.

s20 , to technology in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'

Hey this is neat! I’m glad to see the competition heating up in this space!

I’d be a lot more glad if they followed Valve’s example and made it Linux based, though.

donuts , to gaming in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'
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Hardware makers making the same mistakes over and over again...

I'll say it louder for the kids in the back, "DON'T BOTHER MAKING CUSTOM GAMING HARDWARE WITHOUT A CUSTOM GAMING OS".

Regardless of how you feel about Windows, it is not fit for purpose. It's the wrong tool for the job.

SturgiesYrFase ,
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Well, you know what they say:

When all you have is a hammer everything looks…like…a…uhhhhhh…Window?

Erk ,

When all you have is a Window everything looks like a huge friggin pane

atocci ,
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If this form factor is here to stay, and hopefully it is, Microsoft will probably adapt Windows to it (also hopefully). SteamOS is very good though, can manufacturers not just use that?

sailsperson ,
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Microsoft will likely do fuck all and have us all rely on third-party solutions.

superkret ,

As long as you don’t use it for Office, Microsoft isn’t going to spend money on it. Their cash cow is M365 and Azure, they don’t even care when every single gamer pirates their OS.

krolden ,
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I could see them pushing an Xbox handheld in the near future.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

I think other manufacturers aren’t using SteamOS for 2 main reasons:

1: They get to brag about universal compatibility, even if that’s not a huge gap anymore

2: They aren’t dependent on a direct competitor for their software

HughJanus ,

Except Valve isn’t a competitor to any of these hardware manufacturers if they also have SteamOS.

Damage ,

Eh, this and the Ally are cash grabs, I doubt they intend to spend the money needed to support custom software long-term. They’ll just hope that Windows updates don’t mess it up and if they do, they’ll blame Microsoft.

johnthedoe , to gaming in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'

Cool. Now it just needs steam os on it

HughJanus ,

Those ChimeraOS folks are gonna have their hands full…

1brokeguy , to gaming in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'

Is running windows os on these devices is a lot of resource overhead?

aBundleOfFerrets ,

These devices are honestly quite fast, the overhead is similar to the overhead on an entry level gaming PC (to be fair, that is still a substantial overhead, but people accept it)

Fylkir ,

The bigger problem with Windows is that the Steamdeck has some great battery optimization settings that seem like they’d be a pain to implement.

Alto ,
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Plus windows just kinda sucks to use with these sorts of devices

superkret ,

MS tried to make a Windows that doesn’t suck on mobile devices, everyone h8ed it.

Alto ,
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Tends to happen when you abandon desktop usability in favor of mobile usability

mnemonicmonkeys ,

Plus windows just kinda sucks to use with these sorts of devices

FTFY

ares35 ,
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windows can be tuned to run fairly well, but we're talking lenovo here, and they do love their preinstalled crapware.

kingthrillgore , to gaming in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'
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That's cool and all but I got my hopes on the Steam Deck still, simply because Valve cracked the "who needs Windows" nut

mnemonicmonkeys ,

I second this. I’m planning to start switching my devices from Windows to Linux in a couple of weeks due to good experience I’ve had with the Steam Deck

krolden , to gaming in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'
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All these new handhelds with windows seem to have completely forgot how much of a failure windows has been on mobiles in the past (other than laptops and such). I know windows mobile was a whole different ui but isn’t windows 10/11 even worse to use on small screens like this?

I really hope valve starts supporting steamOS for devices other than the deck soon so we can have the full deck experience including all the tweakable settings.

gary_host_laptop , to worldnews in Microsoft under threat of nationalization or asset seizure by Russia
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How is the government going to handle the use of public computers if Microsoft is getting out of Russia? I mean, I’m sure they already have a lot of pirated copies and old versions of Windows, as any (at least third world) country does, but at some point I don’t see any option to either pirate every copy of Windows or start using Linux.

triplenadir ,
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I don’t see any option to either pirate every copy of Windows

github.com/…/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts 🏴‍☠️

ReakDuck , to technology in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'

Well, Valve still didn’t opened up their Linux Image. But maybe because Deckard and VR development with Gamescope is done.

whodatdair , to technology in EXCLUSIVE: Lenovo is working on a Windows PC gaming handheld called the 'Legion Go'

Call it the Lenovgo

bijuice ,

Boooooo. That pun somehow managed to make me sterile.

herrherrmann ,

Lenogo?

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