I wonder why it is when people say how peaceful Islam is everyone assume sarcasm. Hmm there must be some reason, but I just can’t put my finger on it. Must be one of those weird things that has literally no good reason for it.
I don’t understand why it’s appropriate to make offhanded comments about Islam and blame a whole religion of people for the violent acts of a handful of extremists, but god forbid anyone say something critical about Israel and suddenly their an antisemitic Nazi. Case in point me being called antisemitic for calling “a CEO Jewish” sh.itjust.works/comment/4296373
I’m sorry you feel that way, but violence would still keep on happening even if there were no more religions, it’s human nature. Religion does more good than harm (brings communities together, passing down of traditions/knowledge, charity, etc…).
you bleeding heart liberals are really starting to get more more intolerant and hateful by the day, I shall drink your liberal tears with my holy water, thank you and have a blessed day.
Islamic Jihad, a group separate from Hamas and not getting missiles from Iran, cobbles together their own home-made rocket made out of duck tape and twine and fires it at Israel. The rocket, unsurprisingly, falls apart and part of it falls on the parking lot of Gaza city hospital, killing about a dozen or so people. Hamas rushes to the scene and asks how many are dead. Gaza hospital says 500 - 12 from the missile and 488 from the … you know siege and food/medicine blockade.
Hamas knows that the IDF has targeted this hospital before and had no doubt that they would it again, and since the missile didn’t come from them, releases a press release saying the IDF bombed a hospital and 500 are dead. This makes President Abbas call off his meeting with Biden and throws a wrench in the peace process, just what Hamas wants.
The IDF initially just say “Hamas did it,” and if you disagree we’ve got this new law that jails reporters for saying bad stuff about Israel. Then they release a video footage of a different rocket barrage that has nothing to do with anything. Biden comes over and goes: “Come on, this isn’t the cold war, it’s the information age. We’ve got like 10 live web cams throughout Gaza city streaming, OSINT probably got it. If you didn’t do it, there ain’t any reason to lie about it.”
Of course, that is just what I got from Lemmy, so probably a mix of propaganda from both sides. Feel free to yell all the corrections in the world in the replies.
10-minute video captured by AJArabic around the time the al-Ahli hospital was hit.
As per @Ted55643099:
Explosions on this video: (0:19) hospital. (0:16, 4:25, 4:49) behind and to the left of the hospital. (5:33, 5:56, 9:26, 10:46) behind hospital, most likely the same place. (9:38, 10:51) to the right of the hospital outside of the frame, likely the same place.
It was actually 1000 children, those are smaller and easily fit in the parking lot. I know that because the honorable health ministry of Hamas Gaza said so.
Whatever it was, the rocket was intact when it made landfall. It also looks like the hospital is still intact as the impact happened in the packing lot.
I don’t know about that. For instance, this is what a US JDAM sounds like despite just being a gravity bomb with no propulsion of its own. Not sure what the Hamas/Islamic Jihad rockets sound like in their terminal phase.
Actually, I'd prefer if you did doubt the source. It is X. I am not even going to disagree with you.
The video was geo-tagged to the location near the hospital. Landmarks match as well. So the evidence aligns that this is partially real.
However, there is still data I lack for a full picture. That is why I share stuff like this. So people can tell me WHY it is fake beyond the noticeable. Or provide insight or point of view that I could not.
Thousands of missiles were fired from Gaza last week, and apparently none of them turned around and struck Gaza. On the other hand Israel has been conducting a bombing campaign this week that has blown up a whole lot of buildings, including (according to the NYT) 4 other hospitals… It is obviously possible that this was an errant missile from Gaza, it is much more likely that this was a bomb from Israel.
Bro just watch the video of Hamas rocket impacts and compare it against the hospital impact, there is no fucking way that’s a homemade sewer pipe rocket.
and apparently none of them turned around and struck Gaza.
5-20% depending on the type of missile/rocket generally land inside the Strip. They don’t use aerospace grade materials, so imperfections that wouldn’t cause a problem in 100 years of use as an irrigation pipe end up failing on the multiple G forces associated with rocketry.
Could be from the petroleum from the cars. It looks like the missile hit right outside the parking lot. Most of the cars are burned through too.
Though I am not seeing images of a crater, and it looks like the hospital is still standing. If it was an airstrike, I would imagine there would be more physical damage. But that is just speculation of a air strike bombing run. I feel like there should be more rubble.
They went as far as to inflate the number of casualties,” he said.
Estimates given in a time of panic. But only a 200 casualty rate is fine. 201 and we'd have to send you off to the gulag.
In the recording one man says : “They say the rocket is from Jihadist” then the other one asked : “who says?” Then the other persob replies: “They say its local sharpnel not like the ones from Israeli rockets”
My point is: none of these people in the recording know anything for a fact. they are just telling what they have heard.
Does anyone have sources on what kind of missiles Palestinian groups typically have access to? I think that would be very useful in evaluating the claims being made.
I would count that as having access to them. But that by itself doesn’t answer the question of what exactly they’re able to build and if it’s big enough to do as much damage as we saw. Based on someone else’s link it looks like they do have missiles big enough to do catastrophic damage to a large building, especially if they crash right after takeoff and are full of propellant. That was a surprise to me. It’s not proof of anything but it does make Israel’s story seem more plausible.
Those are all rockets that claim to have been used. Notably most were caught trying to enter Gaza because they’re goddamn huge. 99% of everything fired from Gaza is going to be homemade, small and slow as fuck which is why iron dome even though it’s not particularly sophisticated compared to ciws of major nations.
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