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Keeponstalin , to worldnews in Report: Egypt warns Israel Rafah offensive may lead to suspension of peace treaty

"There is limited space and great risk in putting Rafah under further military escalation due to the growing number of Palestinians there,” Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry said on Saturday during a press briefing, warning that an escalation would have “dire consequences.”

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Egyptian officials warned the decades-long peace treaty between Egypt and Israel could be suspended if Israel Defense Forces’ troops enter Rafah, or if any of Rafah’s refugees are forced southward into the Sinai Peninsula.

In addition, Saudi Arabia — which has already conditioned normalization with Israel on an end to hostilities and steps toward the establishment of a Palestinian state — issued a statement Saturday warning of “the extremely dangerous repercussions of storming and targeting the city of Rafah in the Gaza Strip,” given the city being “the last refuge for hundreds of thousands of people.”

Meanwhile

According to Netanyahu, an assault on Rafah is critical to completing Israel’s stated war aim of dismantling Hamas. Earlier in the week, the premier rejected Hamas’s “delusional” terms for a hostage deal, which included a full withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Strip and the release of hundreds of terrorists serving life sentences.

Terrifying. Even if Israel does the ‘humanitarian’ thing of further forced displacement before assaulting Rafah, where would they go? Even during the ‘pause’, Palestinians who tried to return back to their destroyed houses in the north were shot by the IDF.

filister ,

How easy it is to move 1M+ people who are not extremely fond of you to a different place in Gaza and what is this magical place that has existing infrastructure that can handle the humanitarian needs of those 1M+ people.

And I also doubt that destroying another city in Gaza will achieve anything but strengthening the resolve of locals to continue fighting and push even more people into the embrace of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.

Why do you think terror groups aren’t flourishing in times of peace and prosperity?

Keeponstalin ,

Clearly the right way to end terrorism is with more terrorism Counter Terrorism. No way analysing the situations’ underlying material conditions to improve QoL and de-radicalize could dramatically reduce any support for terrorism, it must be internal/cultural instead of external factors /s

filister ,

Oh yeah and they returned all their hostages because of their war pressure. This turned out to be such a great idea. /s

Israel is most likely complicit for some of their casualties, by bombing them, they also managed to shoot three of their own who happened to be shirtless and waving a white flag and shouting in Hebrew, and saved a single hostage. Such a magnificent successful story!

sin_free_for_00_days ,

Hamas is fucking disgusting. They could end this now, but there is no end to the number of Palestinian martyrs they’ll sacrifice for their anti-zionist views.

Shardikprime , to world in Netanyahu meets Argentina’s new leader Milei, ‘a great friend’ of Israel

Great, anything to help Israel against Hamas terrorists and the leftists supporters of said terrorists.

watson387 , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life
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He’ll definitely think of them. It gives him a hard-on.

avidamoeba , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life
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Oh he’ll think about them alright. Like the farmer thinks about the mice eating his grain.

NegativeLookBehind , to news in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life
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Aye Blinken, that’s so thoughtful

livus , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life
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Blinken reportedly said that, nevertheless, the reality of the matter is that “entire families that are not connected to Hamas were harmed” amid the fighting.

"Harmed" is a bit of an understatement.

Diplomjodler , to news in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life

But it obviously doesn’t bother him so much, that he would actually do something about it.

PhlubbaDubba ,

Probably more apt to say he can’t do very much

The Biden team has pretty clearly demonstrated that they see being able to influence Israel from their side as more valuable in terms of what they can do to limit Israel’s destruction of Gaza than what they can do by joining the international condemnations.

And to a certain extent they might be right? So far Biden’s been able to negotiate hostage swaps and autonomy for a hypothetical post war Gaza, and sanctioning settlers is definitely a step in the right direction compared to past presidents, although I’d have gone as far as dragging American participants back to be prosecuted and imprisoned for that shit but whatcha gonna do?

But the long and short remains, Blinken may be hand tied on what he’s allowed to press Israel on, and on how much he can question the official strategy from the whitehouse.

FuglyDuck ,
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The Biden team has pretty clearly demonstrated that they see being able to influence Israel from their side as more valuable in terms of what they can do to limit Israel’s destruction of Gaza than what they can do by joining the international condemnations.

this has basically been the american position since, basically… always.

it doesn’t work. No president has ever had enough of a spine to actually pull that trigger.

PhlubbaDubba ,

It sure stopped the Suez Crisis, last I checked Egypt still controls both sides of the canal, and that was this policy put into direct action.

Believe it or not choosing to not blow up a decades long alliance and show the world that your reliability as a diplomatic partner sways election to election does actually work sometimes.

FuglyDuck ,
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It’s a bit inaccurate to say that it worked in the Suez Crisis.

yes, Eisenhower cut (or tried to cut) private aid to Israel (about 100 million annually at the time,) But he also sought (via UN,) sanctions that were vetoed by France and Britain, both of whom were also in on the invasion.

Also, Eisenhower put inordinate pressure on the UK, rejecting an IMF request (because they needed oil, and were loosing money,); while also threatening to dump UK bonds held by the US. (which would have had deleterious effects on their economy… though those effects were grossly overstated by Macmillan. Further pressure was laid out by the Saudi embargo on both Britain and France- and the US refused to help alleviate that.

regardless, my point stands that simply being “good friends” with Israel doesn’t really give you the ability to hold them back. particularly when they don’t believe you’d actually do it. The Suez Crisis was resolved at least as much by pressure on Britain and France as it was on Israel- because they were desperate for oil.

davel , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life
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themeatbridge , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life

Yes, Blinken is the real victim here.

davel ,
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scytale , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life

Something tells me he won’t think of them at all.

timicin ,

like kissinger, i’m sure he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the damage he’s done

TheAlbatross , to worldnews in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life

Still gonna send him the bombs to kill those kids tho huh

alvvayson , to news in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life

I presume Blinken means Netanyahu with “he”? Or does he mean himself, Blinken?

Because Netanyahu is a genocidal psychopath who doesn’t feel any remorse for any of the victims of Oct 7th, the hostages or the civilians in Gaza. He just wants ethnically cleansed land.

Blinken, I do believe, will feel guilty for supporting these atrocities.

Heck, one of our longest serving Christian democratic prime Ministers was an ardent supporter of Israel during his time in power, but really felt guilty afterwards.

I, too, feel guilty for having ever been supportive of Israel. It’s just not right.

Altofaltception ,

If only there was something the US could do to show they don’t support the genocide.

Too bad there isn’t anything. Oh well, we’ll just have to live with our choices.

/S

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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What choices? There’s nothing to do!

/s

DarkNightoftheSoul ,
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We’re just one country! There’s nothing to do!

Gork ,

Thots 'n pears

girlfreddy ,
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KnightontheSun ,

Oh, that’s funny. Thanks!

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass ,
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I always say thots and players. Great minds don’t fall far from the tree.

assassinatedbyCIA ,

Thats unfair on netanyahu…

He also wants to keep power and isn’t afraid of killing thousands of Gazans and Israeli’s to do so.

otp , to news in Blinken said to tell Netanyahu that he will think about the thousands of children killed in Gaza all his life

He should, but will be?

Or worse; he will and he’ll feel proud.

givesomefucks ,

Blinken really thinks a far right religious genocidal maniac is going to regret committing a genocide…

Bibi will never forget all the death he’s caused, because he’s too proud of it to forget.

They don’t understand trump, they don’t understand putin, we need actually competent people in these positions I wouldn’t trust Blinken to sell my house under market value with these negotiating skills.

bamboo , to worldnews in Netanyahu meets Argentina’s new leader Milei, ‘a great friend’ of Israel

Argentina has a long history of accommodating Nazis

green_square , to world in Netanyahu meets Argentina’s new leader Milei, ‘a great friend’ of Israel

Yeah that’s about his only flaw, still glad we voted him

febra ,

Isn’t he also really homophobic? And has a shitton other “political stances” that are very problematic?

green_square ,

No he’s not homophobic, he believes consenting adults should do whatever the fuck they want in bed. I think he’s our first president to explicitly say that with no fear of upseting “too conservative” voters.

And you may not like his political stances or not believe his plan to solve argentina’s problems would work, we do, that’s why we voted him.

febra , (edited )

He apparently respects any type of consensual sex, hyperbolically including sex with an elephant. I do not know how to feel about the fact that he’s okay with zoophilia (which is rape). It’s also very dehumanizing to compare people’s sexual orientations to having sex with animals.

“¿Qué me importa a mí cuál es tu elección sexual? Suponete que vos querés estar con un elefante, si tenés el consentimiento del elefante problema tuyo y del elefante”

In reference to public funding for gender-affirming care and public education, he said: “I have no problem, but don’t impose it on me by the state. Don’t steal money from people to impose someone else’s ideas on them. That is violent.”

On the topic of transgender rights, Milei has stated that he “does not care” about gender identification “as long as you do not make me pay the bill”, and compared it to identifying as a cougar.

Again, it’s a very dehumanizing position towards trans people.

He also doesn’t seem to be an LGBT ally even though people classify him as “socially progressive” (lol). He’s at most tolerant of our existence, but he doesn’t seem to be the guy that would do anything to protect the LGBT community if it ever came to protecting them. And the fact that he’s against state funded gender affirming care, which is life saving to trans people, is quite sad to me. But whatever, you guys do you. I’m not so sure turbocapitalism on steroids will save you. I personally dislike this guy’s half assed positions and think he will turn on you the moment he “needs to respect the decision of the people”.

Isn’t he also trying to push an abortion ban right now?

laprensalatina.com/mileis-party-presents-draft-bi…

The bill, presented on Monday, calls for the repeal of the Voluntary Interruption of Pregnancy Law and for abortion to be criminalized for both the woman and those who participate in the procedure.

Sucks to be a woman down there I guess. But whatever, they’ll be martyred for “the good of the economy” and Milei’s “plan to save Argentina”.

Also good for you that you voted for him? You don’t have to be so defensive, I never attacked your “beliefs”

green_square ,

He apparently respects any type of consensual sex, hyperbolically including sex with an elephant. I do not know how to feel about the fact that he’s okay with zoophilia (which is rape). It’s also very dehumanizing to compare people’s sexual orientations to having sex with animals.

He’s not ok with zoophilia, you literally just said that’s an hyperbole, a mere reductio ad absurdum to say “as long as all parties consent, do whatever” this example talks about a consenting elephant, such creature does not exist in the real world and was created for the sake of the hyperbole.

Again, it’s a very dehumanizing position towards trans people.

Nope, he’s just saying “do whatever you want with your gender, the goverment will not interfere”. We have 40% poverty, gender affirming care is a privilege we can’t afford right now(he doubled funding social welfare peograms because he believes that’s the priority)

He’s at most tolerant of our existence, but he doesn’t seem to be the guy that would do anything to protect the LGBT community

Tolerance is all we need, and it’d still be illegal to harm us just like it’s illegal to harm anyone else.

I’m not so sure turbocapitalism on steroids will save you.

We’re sure enough to vote him, we’ll see.

I personally dislike this guy’s half assed positions and think he will turn on you the moment he “needs to respect the decision of the people”.

We trust him enough to vote him, we’ll see.

Sucks to be a woman down there I guess. But whatever, they’ll be martyred for “the good of the economy” and Milei’s “plan to save Argentina”.

Yeah we know he’ll try to ban abortion, he’ve been saying “I’ll call a referendum on the abortion laws” his whole campaign, that’s yet another reason why we(men and women) voted for him.

Also good for you that you voted for him? You don’t have to be so defensive, I never attacked your “beliefs”

Nay don’t worry about it, we’re good, i don’t expect a foreign to be 100% in touch with my country’s problems, politics and culture. Also sorry bout bad english

febra ,

Yeah we know he’ll try to ban abortion, he’ve been saying “I’ll call a referendum on the abortion laws” his whole campaign, that’s yet another reason why we(men and women) voted for him.

Then why is he trying to force a bill now instead of calling a referendum?

green_square , (edited )

He can’t “force a bill”, the congress needs to approve it. A referendum/plebiscite would be an alternative route in case the congress does not approve(which is almost a guaranteed)

Edit: apparently the bill you’re talking about was not made by him but by legislators of his party WITHOUT EVEN ASKING, there’s already conspiracy theories about this not being a “just fuck-up” but an intentional attempt to harm his image.

febra ,

Except getting an abortion. He’s trying to criminalize that. That apparently no longer falls under the “do whatever the fuck you want” ideology you parade here.

laprensalatina.com/mileis-party-presents-draft-bi…

The bill, presented on Monday, calls for the repeal of the Voluntary Interruption of Pregnancy Law and for abortion to be criminalized for both the woman and those who participate in the procedure.

green_square ,

It’s do whatever you want unless you harm someone else, and he believes killing a mf is “harming someone else”. Don’t worry, we knew that from even before he was a candidate and is what we voted for.

febra ,

So you’re okay with banning abortion?

green_square ,

You mean me or my country? I think the majority of us is ok with banning it, we’ll see once/if a referendum happens.

febra ,

That’s quite sad.

green_square ,

He’s doing what he said in his campaign, that’s the opposite of sad if you ask me.

And again: he can’t ban it without asking the people first(indirectly through legistators or directly through a referendum), he won’t ban it against our will.

febra ,

You keep beating around the bush. Just tell me, in your view, do you think that banning abortion is something positive for your country? You don’t need to paint it all with this “democracy” brush. Hitler was also democratically elected. Just because something is democratically elected doesn’t mean it’s good.

green_square ,

My opinion on banning abortion in my country? Not now, they should focus on the economy and redirecting funds to social welfare first. 2/3 children not having a meal everyday is just of higher priority.

febra ,

You can’t have an opinion on it right now? Or you think it’s not something positive for your country right now? What about in the future? Do you think it’s a good idea to outright ban abortion in the future then?

green_square ,

I have an opinion and it is: Not now, solve the whole “2/3 of children don’t eat while the goverment is paying millionaires to make movies” problem first, then we can discuss abortion.

febra ,

Well, sucks to be you, because Milei seems to want to do it now, and won’t call a referendum on it.

I wonder how long it will take for the leopards to start eating people’s faces. (Well, they kinda did with women, but who cares about women having access to abortion, right?)

green_square ,

Not really, that bill was made by the legislator Rocío Bonacci(a woman? how can that be!) without asking Milei, and there’s like 0.01% chance its gets approved so there’s no need to worry.

They won’t, these leopards only eat rats. And they’re not messing with women, once again: we (men and women) voted for this.

febra ,

A woman trying to ban abortion access to all other women doesn’t justify shit.

Don’t like abortions? Don’t have one.

“We voted for it” doesn’t justify shit either. The germans voted for the nazis too. Democratically. Did that justify anything? What kind of take is that?

The leopards eat faces. As we have seen many times before. Good luck to you and your people, you’ll need it.

green_square ,

Don’t like abortions? Don’t have one.

You’re saying this as someone who likes abortion, I’ll remind you that anti-abortion people don’t just “not like it” but actually believe it’s equivalent to murdering a person. You would’t say “don’t like theft? Just don’t steal!” to push a bill to decriminalize theft, would you?

Our culture doesn’t appreciates abortion the same way yours do, that’s ok and we’ll not push your country to ban abortion.

And I may be wrong, argentina may be more pro-abortion than I think, we’ll see once/if a referendum happens.

Good luck to you and your people, you’ll need it.

Thank you! uwu

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