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Linkerbaan , to world in 244 US cargo planes, 20 ships deliver over 10,000 tons of military equipment to Israel — report
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It says there has been no case since the start of the war where the Air Force did not strike, or ground forces did not fire, because of a shortage of ammunition.

Genocide Joe couldn’t get the Ukrainians their weapons but the IDF Nazis sure don’t have an ammunition shortage.

Apollo ,

Genocide Joe has sent far more weapons to Ukraine than to Israel. Ukraine is also consuming far more ammunition than Israel thanks to the type and scope of the conflicts being vastly different.

Linkerbaan ,
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Ukraine getting decades old mortars while israel gets brand new F35’s and 2000 pound bunker busters to throw on schools.

Furthermore israel has received far more military aid than Ukraine if you only count a years before the Russian invasion.

Genocide Joe has put in insane work to remove weapons restrictions for israel including giving them the American stockpile that was already there but not meant for israel. He is not doing this kind of work for Ukraine at all.

Apollo ,

Ukraine can’t exactly use 2000lb bombs very often, given the strength and depth of Russian air defence, but it has great use for ‘decades old mortars’.

Ukraine has recieved plenty of shit that wasn’t for export or came directly from US Army stockpiles. ATACMS is a good example of this.

Linkerbaan ,
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They could if they directly got some free F35’s with it like israel has. Instead it took two years to get them a few old F16’s.

Apollo ,

If it takes 3-6 months to train ukrainian pilots to fly f-16 it would take a lot longer to train them on F-35.

Israel is a partner nation in the F-35 program, are you sure they got them “for free”?

Linkerbaan ,
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You should look up how much free money America gives israel every single year. They got way more than that and all for free.

DoomBot5 ,

How about the sentence before that for context:

The TV report also addresses what it says have been claims that the IDF is engaged in “armament economics” — in other words, that it is conserving ammunition to ensure it does not run out.

Flyswat , to world in 244 US cargo planes, 20 ships deliver over 10,000 tons of military equipment to Israel — report

Why do people hate the US government? /s

nogooduser ,

But they’ve urged Israel to act within international law so it’s ok.

snooggums ,
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Like a parent telling their kid not to eat too much while buying everything the kid asks for.

CollisionResistance OP ,
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A great man once said…they hate us for our freedom.

bartolomeo , to worldnews in 244 US cargo planes, 20 ships deliver over 10,000 tons of military equipment to Israel — report
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The Defense Ministry has made NIS 40 billion (almost $2.8 billion) in additional purchases from the US, it says.

American taxpayer dollars flowing through a foreign ethnic cleansing campaign into the pockets of wealthy investors. Just as the founding fathers intended.

corroded ,

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but if Israel purchased the equipment, how are taxpayer dollars being used for this?

Doorbook ,

Where do you think Isreal have the money from?

corroded ,

From Israeli taxpayers?

bartolomeo ,
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Israel gets something like 3.8 billion dollars in military aid from the US every year. That means money to buy military stuff, with the hopes (or an agreement) that they buy it from the US. That means it’s US taxpayer money sent to Israel for them to buy military gear from American companies to do ethnic cleansing and land grabs in Palestine.

P.S. It’s annoying when people just downvote questions instead of commenting. Share info or just scroll on!

flambonkscious , to worldnews in 244 US cargo planes, 20 ships deliver over 10,000 tons of military equipment to Israel — report

Poor Ukraine!

machinin ,

And poor Palestinians.

Americans really need to fight against this genocide.

DarkGamer , (edited ) to worldnews in Biden: I ‘didn’t ask for a ceasefire’ in today’s ‘private conversation’ with Netanyahu
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Why would he? Hamas has not been deposed yet. If they stop before this it all will have been for nothing.

Mongostein ,

Every Palestinian has not been deposed yet. If they stop before they have access to all that sweet sweet oil it all will have been for nothing.

FTFY

Biden’s doing this to bring down gas prices. /s

DarkGamer , (edited )
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Every Palestinian has not been deposed yet.

Every Palestinian holds office? Seems like you don't know what that word means.

If they stop before they have access to all that sweet sweet oil

Or, you know, while there's a neighboring government trying to murder them.

Mongostein ,

Hamas has been propped up by Israel to create this conflict. Take a look at the proximity of wars with America and its allies to oil deposits in the last 50 years.

Gaza has oil. At this point it’s so fucking obvious what this is actually about and it’s fucking disgusting.

DarkGamer ,
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Netanyahu was trying to play Hamas against the PA to divide and conquer and it blew up in his face.
That's quite the conspiracy theory. So Oct 7 was what, just a coincidence, planned by Israel, or something equally absurd?

Mongostein , (edited )

I don’t care about any of that. We could play Israel did this vs Hamas did that all day. It’s all smoke and mirrors to complicate a situation, making us argue so we’re blind to the simple truth of what it’s all about. Oil.

Why won’t America help the Palestinians? Because Israel will get them access to that oil. It’s not that complicated.

Anyway, Merry Christmas.

nekandro , to worldnews in Biden: I ‘didn’t ask for a ceasefire’ in today’s ‘private conversation’ with Netanyahu

Biden continues to do what he does best: encourage more civilian casualties.

DarkGamer , (edited )
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Biden continues to do what he does best: encourage more civilian casualties.

Actually Biden is doing the opposite of this.

nekandro ,

By… Grudgingly sending billions of dollars in military aid to Israel?

DarkGamer , (edited )
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Sending aid and discouraging casualties are not mutually exclusive.

mlg ,
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Sending aid and discouraging casualties by telling the media is about as useful as telling the police that you swear the 10lb of weed you have fell in through the window.

DarkGamer , (edited )
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You're presuming he only told the media, which is not what that report says. His team relayed this to Israeli officials:

Biden aide Jake Sullivan, the US national security adviser, is in Israel today and tomorrow for meetings with Israeli officials. He says he held “intense, detailed conversations” with Israeli officials on transitioning away from high-intensity fighting in Gaza, and focusing on more precise battles and targeting top Hamas officials.

Funny how most everyone here assumes the worst of Biden despite all he's doing.

mlg ,
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Sending aid and discouraging casualties by telling the media and discussing it with Israeli officials without any incentive or enforcement is about as useful as telling the police that you swear the 10lb of weed you have fell in through the window and the proof is that it doesn’t have your name on it.

FTFY

No one is assuming the worst of Biden. It’s just that american foreign policy has been exactly the same for so long that it doesn’t surprise anyone when the USA pretends to care about an international issue. Especially now that declassified CIA docs show just how much the USA has been aware and involved in practically every area they consider even a minor strategic advantage.

shrugal ,
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Oh, he is even “urging” them, so brave!

frauddogg , to worldnews in Biden: I ‘didn’t ask for a ceasefire’ in today’s ‘private conversation’ with Netanyahu
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DarkGamer ,
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I suppose you'd rather he support the explicitly genocidal Hamas by binding Israel's hands and forcing a ceasefire before they are deposed.

frauddogg , (edited )
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Since when are the colonized the ones who are ‘explicitly genocidal’? How you gon’ react when a bunch of fascist peckerwoods come to annex your land, force you out your house at gunpoint, and start occupying what was, is, and should forever be yours? You mean to tell me you’re not gonna crusade for every peckerwood scalp you can lay your blade on?

What galls me is you really bout to cape for the terrorist IDF that shoots children, medics, and journalists so regularly it might as well be day-in, day-out business as usual to a colonized subject of empire. Far as I’m concerned, Hamas is doing to their colonizers what my community is too broken, blinkered, fettered, and misled to do to our colonizers. From the river, to the sea, koupe tet boule kay.

DarkGamer , (edited )
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Since when are the colonized the ones who are ‘explicitly genocidal’?

Read this, you are simping for the genocidal while claiming you oppose genocide.

You really bout to cape for the terrorist IDF that shoots children, medics, and journalists so regularly it might as well be day-in, day-out business as usual to a colonized subject of empire?

The predictable consequence of electing a terrorist government that starts a war while hiding behind Palestinian children and using hospitals as military assets.

Shit, far as I’m concerned, Hamas is doing to their colonizers what my community is too broken, blinkered, fettered, and misled to do to our colonizers. From the river, to the sea, koupe tet boule kay.

Oh, so you're genocidal, too. Reported and blocked.

frauddogg ,
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Typical kbinner-- proving they belong in a bin too. Hope I live to watch your nation and way of life fall, cac.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

themeatbridge , to worldnews in Biden: I ‘didn’t ask for a ceasefire’ in today’s ‘private conversation’ with Netanyahu

"Honestly, it didn’t come up. We talked mostly about the Netflix series Night Agent. Have you seen it? So good."

  • Biden, probably.
Omega_Haxors ,

"Where the fuck am I?"

  • Biden, definitely
blazeknave , to news in Florida district pulls many Jewish and Holocaust books from classroom libraries

There’s no antisemitism. It’s not dangerous equivocating everything as the same all the time. That doesn’t disenfranchise people and take away the power of language. I don’t need to be responsible on the Internet with the knowledge that my understanding of nuance and grey areas may not exist in the general public or potential readers.

agent_flounder , to news in Florida district pulls many Jewish and Holocaust books from classroom libraries
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The books aren’t offensive. The historical actions they are about are offensive. Repugnant actually. Learning about them means we might be less likely to repeat them. Banning them makes it much more likely. And that is the reason they were banned.

sentient_loom , to news in Florida district pulls many Jewish and Holocaust books from classroom libraries
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This is not the way.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

It wasn’t supposed to be.

snek , to world in Syria’s Assad claims Holocaust was a lie fabricated to justify creation of Israel
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This man is a war criminal and a sham. What a dumb thing to say.

kandoh , to world in Syria’s Assad claims Holocaust was a lie fabricated to justify creation of Israel

Assad has killed almost as many Palestinians as the IDF has

rah , to world in Syria’s Assad claims Holocaust was a lie fabricated to justify creation of Israel
Rapidcreek , to world in Syria’s Assad claims Holocaust was a lie fabricated to justify creation of Israel

3,196 Syrian Palestinians Were Killed by Syrian Regime Forces, including 491 Due to Torture, Between March 2011 and July 2020. Just in case you want to cheer for the guy because you hate Israel.

Whoresradish ,

Fuck Assad, fuck Isreal, and fuck Hamas. The holocaust is real and killed many innocent jews and so is the Palestinian genocide that is happening right now by zionist.

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