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roastedDeflator , to worldnews in Israel forbids doctors from speaking to UN group investigating Oct. 7 atrocities

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HuddaBudda , to worldnews in Israel forbids doctors from speaking to UN group investigating Oct. 7 atrocities
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If you are wondering who is the commission, the United Nations has a good overview on their past and accomplishments.

They all don't have a history of Anti-semitism, as claimed, but more along the lines such as:

  • Human rights in Gambia vs. Myanmar
  • Human rights on housing
  • Inquiry into Detention in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

These guys are no joke, they have done this before. But more importantly, the comment that got them suspended?

“We are very disheartened by the social media that is controlled largely by, whether it is the Jewish lobby or it is specific NGOs, a lot of money is being thrown into trying to discredit us,” he said in the interview.

But above all that, the excuse that Israel is using is:

When asked by The Times of Israel what these claims were based on, Haiat said, “The commission of inquiry is there to investigate Israel without any time limits, unlike any other commission of inquiry from the UN system.

Keep in mind, not even the investigation team knows how long it will take, so of course there won't be a time frame. And they work for the UN, why do they need one?

nekandro OP , to worldnews in Israel forbids doctors from speaking to UN group investigating Oct. 7 atrocities

When I’m innocent, I also forbid doctors from speaking with people

Fitik ,
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Have you read the article you posted?

queermunist ,
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You mean where they accuse the UN Human Rights Council of being part of a vast conspiracy against Israel?

dustyData ,

Hamas is the most powerful group in the world according to Israel. Capable of turning every and all of the world into antisemites. Including the organizations created with the specific purpose of preventing a repeat of historical antisemitic horrors. They are specially antisemitic, according to Israel.

SinningStromgald ,

I read it and Israel’s only “excuse” is the people on the commission don’t always agree with everything Israel does so they must be anti-Israel and anti-semites. Apparently any criticism is Israel means you are bad.

Doorbook , to world in Egypt says it’ll remain in control of its Gaza border after PM suggests Israel might take it over

It feel as if Netanyahu want to expand the war to justify being in power and mask the genocide attempt with greater conflicts getting more finding.

andrewrgross ,

I think this is an increasingly widely held attitude. Everyone in Israel says that when this ends, he’s done. He’s been facing serious corruption charges and staying PM by getting support from the far right has been all that’s kept him out of jail.

It seems like many people have observed that if Netanyahu believes that he’s going to jail when the war ends, the war will never end.

I also think he’s counting on Trump winning in November, and then the media will stop paying attention to Israel because of the insane shit that will be happening in the US.

ShroOmeric , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

Is anyone seriously surprised? The only country Germany has been more in love with is Russia, Putin’s Russia to be precise.

flying_sheep ,
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???

lolcatnip , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

WTF, Germany.

jonne ,

I guess they’re the experts on genocide?

Gormadt ,
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“You call that a genocide‽”

On a serious note, the amount of countries that have committed genocide is a staggering amount.

Link to the Wikipedia page. Just a fair warning on it, it’s really fucking depressing and really long.

Doublepluskirk ,

Given the country’s past, they’re now so incredibly averse to anything that could even be vaguely construed as criticism of jewish identity and sovereignty (by the Israeli government) that they will bend over backwards to defend all sorts of nonsense.

Nythos ,

When you’re so anti-genocide you end up supporting a genocide

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/72c5a89c-6cdc-4140-9410-ac6100e3282b.png

TheBananaKing ,

They clearly just really love genocidal fascist bastards.

AshMan85 , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

Genocidal groups stick together

ivanafterall , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Won't someone think of poor Israel!? Who will stand with them!?

evening_push579 , to worldnews in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

DE: those are rookie numbers, let me show you how it’s done.

paddirn , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

“Your Honor, we may know a thing or two about genocide, and we can definitively say…”

butt_mountain_69420 , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

It is troubling that so many major powers are inundated with individuals whose true loyalty is to Israel, not their own country or its people.

Infiltrated_ad8271 ,
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They do so out of loyalty to their country and its people, more specifically, to the economic and political interests of their country's elites.

jantin , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

Whether pro-Israeli bots like it or not, numerous acts by IDF do fit perfectly into descriptions of the acts forbidden by the convention. Even if the case is eventually dismissed it will be on technical grounds such as “it’s actually a war crime not a genocide” not because “IDF did nothing wrong”.

rivermonster , to world in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

For this reason, he said, “we stand firmly against a political instrumentalization” of the Convention.

Which is exactly whats happening. And in the process its demeaning and devaluing the convention. Much like happens constantly in Lemmy WorldNews.

Israel’s six legal representatives asserted that the ICJ has no jurisdiction over the complaints brought by South Africa since they relate to the laws of armed conflict, not genocide; argued that “random” inflammatory comments of Israeli politicians did not reflect policy determined in the state bodies making war policy; and insisted that the widespread harm to Palestinian civilians during the war was a result of Hamas’s massive use of civilian infrastructure for military purposes, and not genocidal acts

It’s nice when sanity and reality rear their heads. That’s going to rial up the Hamas members and supporters here ON Lemmy.

butt_mountain_69420 ,

I certainly hope Israel gets what it deserves. The level at which its citizens have corrupted the governments and economies of the world should justify a seizure of all their assets and dissolution of the State of Israel, with the land returned to arabs.

The world should demand, through threat of invasion, prosecution and capital punishment for all those who conducted or participated in the unlawful aggression against Palestine and the slaughter of its civilians.

febra ,

While I do agree that what Israel is doing is getting into genocidal territory and that Israeli officials should pay for it, what you’re saying here sounds worryingly antisemitic, as in it’s scratching on the idea of “Jews controlling the world” and whatnot. Also, more ethnic cleansing wont resolve the problems there. There needs to be a humanitarian and political solution for ALL people living in the area.

Cypher ,

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  • Argonne ,

    This is a joke right? Arabs constantly fight among themselves all the time. They are just picking a common enemy in Israel but if they are gone they will go fucking themselves like they always have

    Limitless_screaming ,
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    They are just picking a common enemy in Israel but if they are gone they will go fucking themselves like they always have

    No. If Palestine regains it's territory, Arabic countries will just go back to Iran as their common enemy.

    Most conflicts in the Arab world are civil wars, not many conflicts between two countries (compared to other regions).

    jordanlund ,
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    Removed, “both sidesing” genocide seems to be in poor taste, though I do admit to getting “A Modest Proposal” vibe, the sarcasm is a little too subtle for some folks (who have reported it).

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

    unexpectedteapot ,

    economies of the world should justify a seizure of all their assets and dissolution of the State of Israel, with the land returned to arabs

    Ah yes, the classic Israel 2.0 but with Arabs and Muslims this time.

    See, this is why even though I am from an Arab country I don’t jump quick into up-voting supporters of the basic human rights of Palestinians and Arabs. You are corrupting what should be about the rights and livelihoods of millions by wishing the same injustice happening to millions others instead of vanishing.

    butt_mountain_69420 ,

    You are corrupting what should be about the rights and livelihoods of millions by wishing the same injustice happening to millions others instead of vanishing.

    Classic Jewish misdirection and bad-faith arguments. I never said anything about genocide, I demand appropriate punishment for war criminals.

    Israel 2.0 with Arabs and Muslims.

    Most Arabs are Muslims, Moishe. I simply advocate for returning the land to it’s rightful owners. Israel has made the case for dissolution all on its own, constantly instigating foreign conflicts for economic gain and murdering thousands of civilians.

    Argonne ,

    Ah yes, let’s criticize genocide while advocating for it at the same time. What a useful idiot . I hope anyone who wishes the dissolution of Israel to get exactly what they deserve too

    JustZ ,
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    Stfu.

    butt_mountain_69420 ,

    Since you guys are okay with genocide now, what did Hitler do wrong?

    Goferking0 ,

    Pointing out their genocidal actions make you a hamas supporter?

    Also why would anyone be surprised that’s how Isreal explains their actions in the region? Of course they aren’t going to say they are doing it on purpose

    davel , to worldnews in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge
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    authed , to worldnews in Germany says will intervene at The Hague on Israel’s behalf, blasts genocide charge

    Israel needs to get fucked

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