So in those places "unhealthy" starts at a whooping 37% added sugar? By these standards, Coca Cola with a mere 9% added sugar probably counts as a healthy drink...
I wish they’d be used to help people with agonizing depression and help them to feel like a person again. Not so people can just abuse them to get high.
You can’t always seperate all these things out. I do it rarely because its sort of a severe experience (physically, def gonna throw up at least once and the pee-inhibition is terrible, plus walking and eyes are weird) but I need a reset every now and again when I get in a rut. It can also be pleasently disorienting in a way that makes you really question some of the insignificant sideshows we get distracted by.
It realy shouldn’t matter altho I agree that people shouldn’t use it as a party drug. It should be more like one of those glass windows with a defribillator and you smash it when you need it but its seen as a pain in the ass to access for frivolous means.
But everyone should have easy access and not in ways that maximize side effects or difficulty. Its the biggest shame in the world that so many lives and time were lost because of dumb drug war propaganda that arbitrarily restricts people in such a silly way.
I think allowing people who abuse them to, well, abuse them is an acceptable byproduct of also helping meaningfully treated various other peoples depression.
Eh, ket destroyed my friend’s life for almost a decade. He was shooting it, hooking to afford gear and sucking his landlord’s dick to have somewhere to stay. Broke into his mum’s house and stole anything of value. Did time, cleaned up, and is now sober. I think if we’re going to open up these drugs for free use, we need to build effective support systems so that recreational use doesn’t turn into abuse to the extent that its destroying the lives of the abuser and those of everyone around them.
Okay, but didn’t that happen in an environment where ket was not legally available for people who may be able to benefit from it? Like…that shit already happens. And yeah it sucks.
Do you not feel he would have benefited from it being legal when he attempted to seek treatment? Might he have had less motivation to steal and suck his landlords dick if the illegal market didn’t make the drugs so cost prohibitive?
oh it’s about the money. it’s about funneling money from both the government and directly from the citizenry into the hands of private medical death panel operators
As mentioned in the summary, the combined population of those countries is almost the same as the US. So per capita costs are in fact about 2/3 that of the US government’s spending.
Here’s the paragraph from the summary, which lists which countries. Maybe it doesn’t show up on your Lemmy client?
This means the U.S. government spent more on health care last year than the governments of Germany, the U.K., Italy, Spain, Austria, and France combined spent to provide universal health care coverage to the whole of their population (335 million in total), which is comparable in size to the U.S. population of 331 million.
First of all, I’m not at all against medical (or recreational for that matter) marijuana. It helps people, and those people should have access to medications that help them, and I’d rather have the current system than no access to medical marijuana at all. I feel like I need to start off with this because otherwise I feel like parts of this comment may come off as anti-marijuana, and that’s not my intention at all.
But it’s always been kind of wild to me how the programs we have are handling medical marijuana, I’m pretty sure if a doctor tried to handle any other medication like we usually handle medical marijuana, he’d lose his license.
Marijuana isn’t one drug, it’s several, THC, CBD, Terpenes, various other cannabinoids and other active ingredients, all with different interactions with your body and with each other that can produce a variety of effects on their own or in combination with the others.
And often you’re given little to no medical guidance on which ones will actually help with which issues, how much or how often you should take them, and in what way.
It’s kind of like being given a bucket of assorted pills that may or may not help your condition and being told to mix and match them and try taking them in various ways until you feel better.
And don’t even get me started on smoking it. Yes, it can be an effective delivery method, and you can go back and forth on how marijuana smoke is more or less harmful in various ways than tobacco, but at the end of the day putting smoke in your lungs is bad for you, and I don’t think there’s a doctor in the world who would disagree with that. If nicotine was some sort of wonder drug that could help with various conditions and you could get a prescription for it, I guarantee you it wouldn’t come in the form of tobacco, you’d get pills, patches, maybe some kind of inhaler, vape or nebulizer, injections, suppositories, etc. some sort of purified product with a known dosage.
It’s practically impossible to really do medical grade QA on a plant, there’s going to be variation from one plant to another, or even from different parts of the same plant depending on weather, light, water, fertilizer, and other variables in the growing conditions, not to mention just the genetic variations in the plants, and knowing exactly how much of which active ingredients are in the product is kind of key to being able to dial in what is an effective dose.
Yes, a lot of that has to do with all of the shitty laws and regulations we have around marijuana and our broken medical system in general, I’m not going to go into that too much because this comment is already going to be long enough that a lot of people won’t read it, but I’ll leave it it’s hard to study marijuana to figure what works and how, and it’s hard to build up the kind of industry needed to make actual pure and consistent medical grade marijuana products.
Now of course, if we handled medical marijuana the way it probably should be for the best results, it would probably turn out to be a hugely expensive undertaking under our current healthcare system. There’d probably be a lot of doctor-patient interaction to help you dial in your dosages, with more guidance on how and when to take it, we’d probably be getting into territory where you’d need some sort of a compounding pharmacist who could provide you with a custom blend of the right active ingredients in precise ratios in the delivery method that’s most effective for your condition and needs, there’d be a huge pharmaceutical industry (and probably all of the corporate greed that goes with it) that would need to be built to provide these medications, etc.
And unless we have some major overhaul to our healthcare system, that would all probably price a lot of patients out of being able to afford these treatments.
And yes, the current system works well enough for a lot of people, but it’s possible that it could work even better for them and for even more people if we treated marijuana more like other medications.
I don’t exactly have a grand plan on how to fix things. I don’t want to make marijuana more expensive or inaccessible for the people who need it. I don’t want to feed into the pockets of big pharma. But I do want to make sure that our treatments are as effective as possible, that we’re treating marijuana seriously as a medication and that people view it as such, and that we’re not just settling for our treatment options being “good enough” when we can do even better. We didn’t stop at willow bark, we built on it to develop modern aspirin and other NSAIDs, and someday we will probably do the same for marijuana, there will probably come a day when almost no one will turn to plant-derived marijuana products for medical reasons because we will have long since isolated, synthesized, and developed entirely new classes of drugs based on what we learn from studying marijuana that do the same things more effectively, more safely, and with even less side-effects.
If we had an appropriate scheduling for it so that it could be properly researched and manufactured we could just treat it like every other plant-based medicine we have (of which there are VERY many) - isolate and extract the compounds you’re interested in and recombine them in a pill or gel or aerosol form. Making supplements or tinctures or whatever, from cannabis, wouldn’t be any more difficult than creating aspirin from willow. The only reason it’s difficult is because it’s so highly scheduled that nobody is allowed to work with it.
Op is a moron. Any decent bud tender can tell u exactly what that bud will do for you and if you get it wrong? Oh no nothing really catastrophic happens except u may get paranoid.
You would be on to something, but on a per Capita basis the US still spends more. So the reality is the US still spends more on healthcare than its developed counterparts
This means the U.S. government spent more on health care last year than the governments of Germany, the U.K., Italy, Spain, Austria, and France combined spent to provide universal health care coverage to the whole of their population (335 million in total), which is comparable in size to the U.S. population of 331 million.
Just a quick mote: That is great and all, but the US has more people than a large part of Europe…combined The whole of the US has a population of around 337 million, the entirety of the EU is 461 million.
If you aren’t just trying to drop this as a random fact and are instead pushing for universal healthcare in the US, might I suggest looking at something more meaningful, such as cost per covered person.
Numbers also don’t scale linearly with covered persons due to inefficiencies, so that is something to think about as well. Quality of care is also a consideration. If i need an optional surgery here in the US I can typically get in within 2-6 weeks for the surgery. In some countries it can take months.
sigh the healthcare debate is so much more complex than people realize. I am pro universal healthcare, btw.
If we adopted universal healthcare tomorrow without consideration of the issues, the worldwide economy would take a massive hit. Insurers and private healthcare companies invest dollars worldwide in many different industries.
The six countries have a comparable total population to the US…
This means the U.S. government spent more on health care last year than the governments of Germany, the U.K., Italy, Spain, Austria, and France combined spent to provide universal health care coverage to the whole of their population (335 million in total), which is comparable in size to the U.S. population of 331 million.
4 million more people covered for 2/3 the cost, and for what the US government is spending, it’s not even covering the 331 million people in the US.
Also it’s wildly dependent on what surgery. 1-2 years for some surgeries. Though the UK is significantly worse on that specific procedure, entirely on purpose.
Yeah I got into bottom surgery in 6 months because someone canceled and I was willing to stay in a hospital for a week in 2021.
And the UK NHS can provide similar speeds to the US. They just refuse to have enough clinics to accommodate the fact that trans people are about a third of a percent of the population and they’re unwilling to follow the modern best practices for transitioning. 2 year wait to begin an outdated and humiliating waiting period to start hormones isn’t something you do unless you’re intentionally underfunding it.
I support single payer knowing that I’m one of the groups that my country will choose to hurt in revenge. Because nobody should ever have to ask how they’re going to pay for chemo, even the people choosing to punish me for taking that problem from them.
So right now the PE ratio of the s & p 500 is 26 or so. That number on average historically around 15.5 if I remember correctly. Meaning it would take 15.5 year’s profits at current profit levels to pay for a stock you buy. Ie, if a share was worth ten dollars, it would take 15.5 years for the companies to all make enough profit to cover the price of ten dollars for all the shares.
So that’s average. We are now at 26 or more. So it now takes 26 years. Meaning, the stock market is TOO EXPENSIVE. This is a great thing for the boomers living off selling their shares. Just like with their overpriced homes, they are enjoying this situation.
Those of us working and BUYING shares are not. We can buy less percentage of a company for more money, and expect poorer returns on what we invest today. Same as with houses. We can buy less home for more money. Long term, means we will either have to work longer, or somehow live on less when we are unable to work anymore as we age.
So if you tell me we can perhaps get universal healthcare AND enjoy the benefit of stocks returning to reasonable levels enjoyed by previous generations, I’m now even more excited thinking about universal healthcare.
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