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thenextguy , to world in Canadian warship passes through Taiwan Strait, drawing China's ire
cygnus ,
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We even had an aircraft carrier for a while 🥲

The Halifax-class is a bit on the small side but not a bad ship. Its replacement will be a massive improvement though (slated for the 2030s)

Archelon ,

Fun History Fact!

While the Royal Canadian Navy began WW2 with only 13 ships, by the end of the war it had 1,140 surface ships listed as having been in service giving it the third largest navy in the world!

troyunrau ,
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Yes, but they got rid of the submarines in the West Edmonton Mall.

Gsus4 , to world in Iran, its proxies will meet to discuss retaliation against Israel, say sources
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Damn, it’s like they’re daring Israel to strike the meeting and officially start the war.

wildbus8979 ,

How dare they defend their sovereignty. Only Israel has a right to do that!

Gsus4 ,
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yeah, how dare israel strike the guys who ordered attacks on them, by air and by land (but they probably won’t, too much fallout and risk of starting a war they can’t finish)

wildbus8979 , (edited )

In accordance to multiple UN resolutions and international law, as well as simple ethics, occupied people have a right to armed resistance. Occupiers and apartheid states do not.

One has to remember that in 1948, the UN was basically nothing but the League of Nations and some puppet states, which had to be bribed and threatened for the motion to pass.

Gsus4 , (edited )
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Fine by me, 2state solution yesterday, do the occupied recognize Israel’s 67 borders?

PS: Or do you think israel is going to recognize Palestine only for Palestine to be an islamist spearhead right in the heart of Israel for Iran’s attacks? Don’t give the fascists in power in Israel more ammo to shame the pacifists.

wildbus8979 , (edited )

So far the only ones who have blocked that continuously is Israel. I for one think that’s still a bad deal and would be satisfied with nothing else but a one state solution, but I understand how desperate the Palestinians are and wouldn’t fault them either way.

“Pacifism” serves no one but the oppressor. No one’s ever freed themselves without strength of actions.

Gsus4 ,
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I was talking about israeli pacifists, who are basically treated as a joke after Oct 7th and apparently by you too. Israel was on the brink of a civil war between the fascists and rule of law moderates before Oct 7th and this attack solidified the fascists in power for decades.

wildbus8979 ,

who are basically treated as a joke after Oct 7th and apparently by you too

Unless they were advocating for a one state solution, yes, yes I do.

Gsus4 , (edited )
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Israel was created by a UN resolution, simultaneously with Palestine and is a result of the Arabs and Jews as winners against the Ottoman empire in WW1 and the nazis in WW2. They both got land. Jews got half of Palestine. Arabs got everything else: Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and half of Palestine. What was the problem here, exactly? Maybe the solution is to return everything to the Brits or the Ottomans. No more squabbling, lol.

Deceptichum ,
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Palestine was meant to go entirely to the Palestinian.

Zionist terror campaigns and assassinations against the British forced them to concede land to the Zionists.

Zionists were literally trying to ally with Nazi Germany against Britain during WW2 ffs.

Gsus4 ,
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Zionists were literally trying to ally with Nazi Germany against Britain during WW2 ffs.

I know the mufti of Jerusalem was best buds with Hitler, but I’ve never heard that one. Isn’t that part of Mahmoud Abbas’ goofy PhD thesis?

Deceptichum ,
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Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the Britishduring World War II. It initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.[22] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis, proposing a Jewish state based on “nationalist and totalitarian principles, and linked to the German Reich by an alliance”.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

Than there’s also the Haavara Agreement where they agreed to stop boycotting Nazi Germany so that they could get more people over to colonise/invade Palestine.

And as I’m sure you know many members of Lehi went on to have long lasting careers in Israeli politics, even being Netanyahus mentor and founding the Likud party he belongs to.

So the people who wanted to ally with the Nazis still run Israel today, crazy world.

small44 ,

None of the pacifist israeli are ruling israel

Gsus4 ,
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and they probably never will, if the fascists inside and the aggressors outside keep them irrelevant.

small44 ,

Please tell me that you means pre 67 borders and not 1967 borders

Gsus4 ,
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steventhedev ,

Terrorism is not armed resistance

wildbus8979 , (edited )

How do you feel about Nelson Mandela?

The attack on October 7th certainly had a much much MUCH better uniform/civilian kill ratio (about 1:1) than what ever Israel does (probably in the order or 1:100 if we’re being EXTREMELY generous).

NOT_RICK ,
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MK killed fewer than a hundred people and had killed nobody before Mandela was arrested. Comparing MK to Hamas is pretty ridiculous considering Hamas has intentionally gone after civilians.

But hey, if Hamas gets out there and loudly proclaims their adherence to non-violence like Mandela did then I’d be ecstatic.

NOT_RICK ,
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They still killed one of the more moderate leaders of Hamas. I won’t weep for the guy but I just see this perpetuating the cycle of violence.

Gsus4 ,
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If one of the guys who ordered the Oct 7th escalation was the only hope for peace in Gaza…I’m not sure there is any point in negotiating with hamas. Isn’t there any leader in Gaza outside hamas?

NOT_RICK ,
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There have been atrocities for decades perpetuated by both Palestinians and Israelis. Some people that have done absolutely heinous things will need to be involved in the peace process for it to actually work considering those people are the ones perpetuating the cycle. Look at what happened with the Good Friday agreement in Northern Ireland and Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa (this one is far more one sided but still applicable).

Gsus4 ,
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The Good Friday agreement would not have been posible if Ireland was 20km away from London.

NOT_RICK ,
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The IRA was armed in part by Libya which was absolutely a hostile state in the UK’s eyes at the time. They almost killed Margaret Thatcher. They had many operatives in Great Britain, I don’t see how the Irish Sea significantly changes things considering there is a massive wall between Gaza and Israel that is easier to defend than thousands of miles of coastline.

Gsus4 ,
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I did not know that, but still, those weapons were not 20km away from London. This is not just fascists in Israel, even the moderates feel too threatened to oppose the fascist narrative.

NOT_RICK ,
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They bombed London during the troubles quite often, actually.

Gsus4 , (edited )
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I quoted the 20km distance as the distance between Palestine’s borders and major capitals in Israel, but yes, there were lots of bombings in Israel, but I guess they controlled that with the border walls and a police state…again…Ireland is easier to let go as a colony, not right on top of you.

Even if things never got as bloody as Palestine, everyone should still cherish the reasonableness in the Good Friday agreement.

NOT_RICK ,
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They haven’t let go of Ireland as a colony though.

I absolutely do cherish the GFA and I see how a bunch of stubborn, violent men had to get together and painstakingly iron out an imperfect peace to achieve it. I want the same for Israel and Palestine.

Billy ,

Moderate?
The guy who lead Hamas when they threw Fatah officials off buildings and shot into crowds of their supporters?
That under him Hamas charter included this very moderate part

“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”

He wasn’t a moderate in any way, and it’s bizarre to see people referring to him in this way.

NOT_RICK , (edited )
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It’s all relative. The guy still sucks, but he was still a part of the wing of Hamas that is looking to negotiate.

Edit: also the Hamas charter was revised to remove that in 2017 when he took power as the chair of the Hamas political bureau. I’ll ask you this, do you honestly think his death will change anything? That another person won’t just step in his place and continue killing Israelis? That’s my point, this is a cycle that will just perpetuate. There are no actors in this with clean hands.

Billy ,

All the negotiations were approved by Sinwar in Gaza, who’s supposedly the most fanatic one.

His death weakens them, although it’s certainly not enough. But he’s also not the only one they got to.
Hamas is close to losing their grip on Gaza. It will benefit everyone if they become irrelevant.

Gsus4 , (edited )
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I think what they mean is that as a leader, he does not really believe his own propaganda, so he can be pragmatic, but if you kill him, whoever succeeds him might be one of the guys who actually believed that fanatically. Or he really does believe that, given his history.

small44 ,

Should natanyaho be killed because israelis are killing civilians?

Gsus4 , (edited )
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I would care as much about that as about killing Sinwar: not, they both deserve it.

Tryptaminev ,

“how dare they”. Because targeted assassinations are murder. They are barbaric and in contradiction to the rule of law. And with the civilian “casualties” in Beirut and Tehran it would be appropriate to condemn them as acts of terror, because that is what they are.

Gsus4 , (edited )
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At this stage, anything that happens in this war is a crime and murder (listen to yourself: if they are targetted in decapitation strikes, it’s a crime, if they are indiscriminate, it is even worse) so I’d rather they go after the leaders of hamas who organized the escalations than bomb Palestine any more.

PS: yet the bombing of Palestine is ongoing. More civilians among them journalists dead today…

PS2: timesofisrael.com/idf-releases-file-seized-in-gaz…

FlyingSquid , to world in Canadian warship passes through Taiwan Strait, drawing China's ire
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Yeah, well it’s the Taiwan Strait, not the “CCP gets to control everything that goes through it” Strait.

cygnus ,
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Oh yeah well the CCP drew lines on a map which, like Trump’s sharpie-edited hurricane map, is incontrovertible evidence that what they say is correct.

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Taiatari , to world in Mexican president says no evidence of fraud in Venezuela elections
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No evidence of fair play either then?

Gsus4 , (edited )
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No evidence of the CNE even, they are MIA. Maybe their paper records and their brains got hacked too.

marcos , to world in Mexican president says no evidence of fraud in Venezuela elections

WTF is that title? Completely opposite of the article claiming there’s no evidence the result is honest.

cecinestpasunbot ,

What are you talking about? It’s not the opposite at all. The short article just states that AMLO said that there was no evidence of fraud and that he’ll wait until the full vote tallies are released before commenting. That’s basically exactly what the title says.

FlyingSquid , to world in Mexican president says no evidence of fraud in Venezuela elections
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Oh good, Claudia Sheinbaum isn’t in power yet. I really didn’t want to think that came from her.

Moobythegoldensock , to world in Mexican president says no evidence of fraud in Venezuela elections

The Mexican president said earlier this week he would wait for Venezuela’s election results to be reported fully before he recognized a winner.

^^ This is a much more accurate description of the situation. Mexico isn’t explicitly backing Venezuela’s regime, it’s refusing to take sides.

cecinestpasunbot ,

AMLO is explicitly rejecting the idea that there is evidence of fraud which is what the article is about. The title is accurate even if AMLO is not taking sides.

Spacehooks , to world in Canadian warship passes through Taiwan Strait, drawing China's ire

Attack the candians and learn that the red maple leaf is not red because of autumn.

Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
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As a Canadian I would love to see a chinese ship getting pelted with a volley of supersonic hockey pucks and maple syrup containers.

Gsus4 , (edited ) to world in Mexican president says no evidence of fraud in Venezuela elections
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So he’s hiding behind Maduro’s cyberattack claims used to justify the complete lack of transparency and fudged election percentages published. Ok, I wonder how long they will be able to keep appearances, since Maduro isn’t anymore.

kbal , to nottheonion in Pineapple Pizza insulta fly over Italian - Hong Kong fencing final
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Do Italians actually care about putting pineapple on pizza? I thought that was just Americans.

troyunrau ,
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Ironically, pineapple on pizza is a Canadian thing. Even the name “Hawaiian” pizza originates from Canada.

glimse ,

I swear it’s just the terminally online that go into a rage over it.

No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston , to world in Mexican president says no evidence of fraud in Venezuela elections

There’s no fraud, the winner is Edmundo and Maduro lost the elections.

The evidence is missing because the electoral council does not want to release the tallies of the polling system.

The fact that he was declared the winner is why we need to fight as he was not elected by popular vote but maintained in power by the military who’s all in the drugs business.

assassin_aragorn , to world in Iran, its proxies will meet to discuss retaliation against Israel, say sources

I’m a bit surprised that Iran would plan an open retaliation for this, since they don’t typically officially acknowledge their proxies.

This does risk a full on war between Israel and Iran however if Iran is going to give up all pretenses.

veritetw , to world in Canadian warship passes through Taiwan Strait, drawing China's ire

If US is being serious, it should establish a military base in Taiwan – unless US just treat TW as the next Ukraine.

Note the fact that US never grant TW statehood nor independence. Taiwan is the only pitiful political entity in first island chain that has no US military base, the cost of which TW will be happily to pay.

TW has been buying US weaponry since WWII. But most purchases delayed, outdated or undelivered.

nekandro OP , to worldnews in US lawmakers threaten cuts to Olympic anti-doping funds

Friendly reminder that China has one of the lowest positive WADA doping test rates in the world. The US tests positive at more than 5x that rate. India tests positive at more than 15x that rate. Russia tests positive at a similar rate as the US.

The US just can’t accept that WADA, which receives more funding from the US than from any other country in the world, isn’t biased towards Americans. We know that 6.5 to 9.2% of US athletes are doping, anyway: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11102888/

But sure, those 6.5% to 9.2% of US athletes are all acting on their own and there’s no system in place to encourage doping (as if the fact that almost 1 in 10 US athletes get away with doping isn’t a system to encourage it).

acosmichippo ,
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so are we just gonna ignore that cannabinoids are included in this.

nekandro OP ,

Flagrant violation of the rules knowing that the US national agencies won’t give a fuck. The rules themselves might be questionable (but really, cannabinoids are still illegal in most of the world…), but it demonstrates that US athletes feel like they can basically ignore the rules because nobody will enforce them.

acosmichippo ,
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well when half or more of the people who admitted to using PEDs were using cannabinoids it certainly cuts into your argument that there’s a wide ranging conspiracy across dozens of disciplines to encourage doping.

naturalgasbad ,

You’re barking up the wrong tree with this one. The real story is the number of US Olympians that have TUEs that coincidentally are performance enhancers and the relative lack of TUEs for other countries’ Olympians (e.g., China).

notceps ,

Alright mini rant here because reasons but

The US just can’t accept that WADA, which receives more funding from the US than from any other country in the world, isn’t biased towards Americans.

It quite literally is though I think the best example of this is currently Wesley Kitts who was popped with methylhexaneamine, basically amphetimes, and got caught. Now they say ‘Well he didn’t want to compete and did those drugs recreationally so we will only allow a suspension for one month’ which went from July 3 to August 3, weightlifting competition starts on the 10th which is really really really opportune timing. Now before you bring anything up let me again say this:

He got popped for a competition that was mandatory for qualification for the olympics. He weighed in. He really wanted to compete and got popped. And even if he didn’t attempt to stimulants like this provide more blood to skeletal muscle which in turn helps build muscle mass and this drug can and has been used to mask other performance-enhancing drugs.

The USA is getting special treatment but they are not getting enough special treatment it seems. Like they pulled this shit for a weightlifter that the last time around came 8th in his weightclass. Absolutely embarrassing show at the very least by the US weightlifting team but watching commentary on swimming, tennis and the newest ‘boxing scandal’ the USA should be heavily penalized but they won’t.

sandbox ,

While China’s WADA positive test rate is indeed low, it’s higher than the Chinese anti-doping agency (CHINADA) positive test rate, by quite a significant amount, which may suggest that the national agency aren’t policing doping as closely as WADA. The USA’s national anti-doping agency (USADA) has a higher positive test rate than WADA’s, again, by quite a significant amount. Additionally, WADA has significantly higher sample rate in the US compared to the sample rate in China - despite the fact that CHINADA has a much higher sample rate than USADA.

My point isn’t that the US is better or more honest at handling doping than China, just that the analysis of doping test rates has quite a lot of variance, and it’s difficult to draw meaningful conclusions from them.

nekandro OP ,

I’ve been looking at this data for reference:

wada-ama.org/…/2021_anti-doping_testing_figures_e…

Where do you get your claims?

Either way, as another guy pointed out US athletes have a really quite absurdly high rate of TUEs. Maybe that’s just because the average American is unhealthy, maybe that’s just because the US healthcare system catches more of those things, but it’s still odd that those athletes coincidentally take performance-enhancing drugs as medication for their medical condition. It’s also odd how low the TUE rate is in other countries in comparison - WADA seems more willing to approve requests from the US, which maybe explains part of the discrepancy.

sandbox ,

Slightly more recent version of the same document, as well as the ADRV report

wada-ama.org/…/2022_anti-doping_testing_figures_e…

www.wada-ama.org/sites/…/2020_adrv_report.pdf

filoria ,

Global positive test rate is 0.67%. 25% of those are “legal” (~250). Of the illegal ones, 25 Chinese, 57 Americans, 135 Russians.

The Beijing lab reported 25 AAFs, for a 0.23% positive test rate over 10326 tests. The LA and SLC labs together reported 153 AAFs, for a 1.54% positive test rate over 9904 tests. So… Eh? Isn’t this the opposite result being claimed? The US is able to run interference for a good proportion of their AAFs by claiming “medical reasons” and other bullshit.

sandbox ,

I feel that that it’s very difficult to formulate any real statistically significant findings from this data because you’d need way more information than we have available to us from the WADA report, personally. Your point that China has a very low rate is completely fair, and I agree with you on that, but there are just so many variables in the mix and the sample sizes are so low, I’d be uncomfortable in making a real conclusion with the data available - all you can really do is point to correlations.

I’m not arguing with you or saying you’re wrong or anything, just to be clear - just saying it’s really messy and complex. And I agree that the US is broadly pushing sinophobic propaganda as per usual.

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