Many warned that after springing his star agent, Russian President Vladimir Putin might be tempted to arrest further Westerners in order to bargain others out of jail.
It should be obvious to everyone at this point that if you travel to Russia then you are in grave danger of becoming a political pawn.
However, the rest of the 20% votes have not yet (at the writing of this article) been released because of a massive cyber-attack. The elements of the electronic system that transmit the results to the central point was hacked over a hundred times in a most sophisticated manner that was traced to North Macedonia.
Get fucked China. Just keep crying about your “wolf diplomacy” not working. You took the mask off years ago, now let it sink in that we’re not going to listen to your crying anymore, because you’ve shown the whole world that you want to play by your own rules and refuse to act in good faith.
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Turkey is an awkward mirror to Israel. They both have an an unrecognized ethnostate with a populace that is locked in perpetual guerilla war with each other.
Both are framed differently, though. The Kurds often get framed slightly more positive, as they were helping the western forces defeat Isis. And the Turks don’t have the same grip on the International media that Israel have.
It’s however a painful equivalent as if we choose to not call out Israel, we can’t call out Turkey either.
Israel and Palestine are legitimate nations. Turkey is fighting PKK, a terrorist organization without any legitimate nation behind; also has a history of killing civilians, kidnapping children and burning schools. Unlike Israel, Turkey does not target areas with high likelihood of civilian casualties.
Palestine is not recognized globally. For instance Israël doesn’t recognize it, which is part of the problem.
Turkey, like Israel, has labeled the PKK as terrorist organisation, however they say they are freedom fighters. This has been the case for Hamas and Hezbollah too, just like the IRA and ETA.
Not saying that terrorism is legitimized, but like the Israelites Turkey is involved in violent suppression of Kurds. It’s exactly the same situation, and Turkey can play at it as there’s no western moral high ground as Israel is allowed to do the same thing.
The Western Coalition was most welcoming towards the help of PKK fighting against Isis and the remnants of Saddam’s baathists, however.
Comparing Turkey, a nation that aims to defend its citizens from terrorism related attacks to Israel; a nation that kills civilians and bombs hospitals just to possibly kill some targets is the worst comparison I’ve ever seen.
What do you feel about the comparison between Kurds and Palestinians? Both minorites that are desperate enough to resort to terrorist attacks and reprisals by a more powerful state that is supported by a global power.
Palestinians have heavily restricted rights inside Israel territory; unlike Kurds in Turkey who are considered Turkish citizens and have no restrictions in their citizenship rights
Hamas has been accepting of a peaceful solution; PKK isn’t. Turkey has tried the peaceful option with no success; because it turned out PKK was using the peace negotiation time to trap more buildings with bombs and arm themselves up.
Main reason behind PKK’s creation was unfair treatment towards prisoners within the areas with high Kurdish population; unlike the whole Palestine-Israel conflict where Israel’s idea started from the thought of ethnic cleansing of their area.
I can’t find any reason why these two would be comparable whatsoever.
Thanks for your perspective. I still think that there more to it than meets the eye. Both situations are directly attributable to the dissolution of the ottoman empire, where the region was kind of randomly subdivided, without regard towards the populace. Like the Armenians the Kurds feel the indifference of the Turks towards their ethnicity.
Also the British administration of Palestine, culminating in the Balfour declaration eventually caused the plight of the Palestinians.
I think we’re not going to agree in the end, but thanks for your perspective.
I’ll focus only on a few big points.
Turkey also bombs the SDF, which isn’t considered a terrorist group by anyone (other than Turkey and Qatar maybe).
Even the PKK, which is the worst out of the Kurdish groups, only calls for an autonomous area in Turkey, and not for the annihalation of Turkey or for the death of all Turks.
The Kurds were oppressed and persecuted for a very long time under Turkey, Iraq, Syria and Iran. Their neighbours all want them gone or dead (although some would be fine “just” with forced assimilation), similarily to how they view / have viewed Israel and Jews.
Kurds barely get any support, even from the USA.
Hamas has the support of many states and groups all over the region.
yeah, how dare israel strike the guys who ordered attacks on them, by air and by land (but they probably won’t, too much fallout and risk of starting a war they can’t finish)
In accordance to multiple UN resolutions and international law, as well as simple ethics, occupied people have a right to armed resistance. Occupiers and apartheid states do not.
One has to remember that in 1948, the UN was basically nothing but the League of Nations and some puppet states, which had to be bribed and threatened for the motion to pass.
Fine by me, 2state solution yesterday, do the occupied recognize Israel’s 67 borders?
PS: Or do you think israel is going to recognize Palestine only for Palestine to be an islamist spearhead right in the heart of Israel for Iran’s attacks? Don’t give the fascists in power in Israel more ammo to shame the pacifists.
So far the only ones who have blocked that continuously is Israel. I for one think that’s still a bad deal and would be satisfied with nothing else but a one state solution, but I understand how desperate the Palestinians are and wouldn’t fault them either way.
“Pacifism” serves no one but the oppressor. No one’s ever freed themselves without strength of actions.
I was talking about israeli pacifists, who are basically treated as a joke after Oct 7th and apparently by you too. Israel was on the brink of a civil war between the fascists and rule of law moderates before Oct 7th and this attack solidified the fascists in power for decades.
Israel was created by a UN resolution, simultaneously with Palestine and is a result of the Arabs and Jews as winners against the Ottoman empire in WW1 and the nazis in WW2. They both got land. Jews got half of Palestine. Arabs got everything else: Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan and half of Palestine. What was the problem here, exactly? Maybe the solution is to return everything to the Brits or the Ottomans. No more squabbling, lol.
Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the Britishduring World War II. It initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.[22] Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis, proposing a Jewish state based on “nationalist and totalitarian principles, and linked to the German Reich by an alliance”.
Than there’s also the Haavara Agreement where they agreed to stop boycotting Nazi Germany so that they could get more people over to colonise/invade Palestine.
And as I’m sure you know many members of Lehi went on to have long lasting careers in Israeli politics, even being Netanyahus mentor and founding the Likud party he belongs to.
So the people who wanted to ally with the Nazis still run Israel today, crazy world.
The attack on October 7th certainly had a much much MUCH better uniform/civilian kill ratio (about 1:1) than what ever Israel does (probably in the order or 1:100 if we’re being EXTREMELY generous).
MK killed fewer than a hundred people and had killed nobody before Mandela was arrested. Comparing MK to Hamas is pretty ridiculous considering Hamas has intentionally gone after civilians.
But hey, if Hamas gets out there and loudly proclaims their adherence to non-violence like Mandela did then I’d be ecstatic.
If one of the guys who ordered the Oct 7th escalation was the only hope for peace in Gaza…I’m not sure there is any point in negotiating with hamas. Isn’t there any leader in Gaza outside hamas?
There have been atrocities for decades perpetuated by both Palestinians and Israelis. Some people that have done absolutely heinous things will need to be involved in the peace process for it to actually work considering those people are the ones perpetuating the cycle. Look at what happened with the Good Friday agreement in Northern Ireland and Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa (this one is far more one sided but still applicable).
The IRA was armed in part by Libya which was absolutely a hostile state in the UK’s eyes at the time. They almost killed Margaret Thatcher. They had many operatives in Great Britain, I don’t see how the Irish Sea significantly changes things considering there is a massive wall between Gaza and Israel that is easier to defend than thousands of miles of coastline.
I did not know that, but still, those weapons were not 20km away from London. This is not just fascists in Israel, even the moderates feel too threatened to oppose the fascist narrative.
I quoted the 20km distance as the distance between Palestine’s borders and major capitals in Israel, but yes, there were lots of bombings in Israel, but I guess they controlled that with the border walls and a police state…again…Ireland is easier to let go as a colony, not right on top of you.
Even if things never got as bloody as Palestine, everyone should still cherish the reasonableness in the Good Friday agreement.
They haven’t let go of Ireland as a colony though.
I absolutely do cherish the GFA and I see how a bunch of stubborn, violent men had to get together and painstakingly iron out an imperfect peace to achieve it. I want the same for Israel and Palestine.
Moderate?
The guy who lead Hamas when they threw Fatah officials off buildings and shot into crowds of their supporters?
That under him Hamas charter included this very moderate part
“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”
He wasn’t a moderate in any way, and it’s bizarre to see people referring to him in this way.
It’s all relative. The guy still sucks, but he was still a part of the wing of Hamas that is looking to negotiate.
Edit: also the Hamas charter was revised to remove that in 2017 when he took power as the chair of the Hamas political bureau. I’ll ask you this, do you honestly think his death will change anything? That another person won’t just step in his place and continue killing Israelis? That’s my point, this is a cycle that will just perpetuate. There are no actors in this with clean hands.
All the negotiations were approved by Sinwar in Gaza, who’s supposedly the most fanatic one.
His death weakens them, although it’s certainly not enough. But he’s also not the only one they got to.
Hamas is close to losing their grip on Gaza. It will benefit everyone if they become irrelevant.
I think what they mean is that as a leader, he does not really believe his own propaganda, so he can be pragmatic, but if you kill him, whoever succeeds him might be one of the guys who actually believed that fanatically. Or he really does believe that, given his history.
“how dare they”. Because targeted assassinations are murder. They are barbaric and in contradiction to the rule of law. And with the civilian “casualties” in Beirut and Tehran it would be appropriate to condemn them as acts of terror, because that is what they are.
At this stage, anything that happens in this war is a crime and murder (listen to yourself: if they are targetted in decapitation strikes, it’s a crime, if they are indiscriminate, it is even worse) so I’d rather they go after the leaders of hamas who organized the escalations than bomb Palestine any more.
PS: yet the bombing of Palestine is ongoing. More civilians among them journalists dead today…
Under the preliminary deal agreed on Monday, Catalonia would become autonomous in collecting and managing taxes that could clash with the Spain-wide fiscal systems where poorer regions receive a portion of the more affluent regions’ revenues and prompt other regions to demand similar privileges.
I think Catalonia is one of the wealthier regions, which is why this is a problem for Spain in general.
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