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ziggurat , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

Yes, yes there are foods that are cheap, delicious and healthy. Sorry this will be a long post, many things to cover!

First I have to say, what I regard as healthy for me personally is generally Keto friendly foods. This is because, for an unknown, diagnosed (not for the lack of trying) reason I have muscle and joint pains that go away if I get to a very low carb intake such that it has an anti-inflammatory effect. Other than working around the reason I have pain, it also remove redness of Seborrheic dermatitis which I have. For me it also reduces quite a bit, but not stops dandruff. It has other health benifits as well, it is not a cure all, I've never said it has cured any of the symptoms above, just reduce or remove the symptoms. For me the symptoms come back when I eat carbs, even if I stay away from sugar. Well it can cure some things like fatty liver or insulin insensitivity. But its not a cure all, again my symptoms (except I was insulin sensitive which is cured) are not cured, but it does work in a palliative manner.

Keto doesn't work for everyone. Well if losing weight is a goal, and then you actually do a keto diet, it will work. People who say it doesn't work for losing weight are either knowingly (lying to them selves) or more often unknowingly eating carbs they don't count. Also by count I don't mean actually keeping track of, because literally counting carbs, nope, I don't believe in that. Too much work, and doesn't give a benefit over adhering to just what ingredients you can use.

What I actually meant for keto doesn't work for everyone, I mean work as in being healthy. It should work for the vast majority of people. But example my wife, she has Ulcerative Colitis, pre-diabetes, and she is underweight. Ulcerative Colitis in regards to keto mainly makes it so certain types of fiber is not good for her. And being slightly medically underweight, she can't eat enough, she needs the carbs. For Diabetes type 2 keto diet is super effective at palliative helping, especially if it's just pre-diabetes. But alas, she can't hit her calorie needs without carbs.

Before talking about the foods, I wan't to mention that Keto diet goes very well together with intermittent fasting. This is mainly due to how the liver works. Making ketons! Keton's isn't mumbo jumbo, simplified its what your liver makes when breaking down fat. Ketons is a very good fuel source for your body. If break down fat, you get much more energy than if eat carbs. So you want to stay in ketosis for more of the 24 hour day, than is easy without intermittent fasting. Ketosis is just when you produce ketons. So to get there, very grossly simplified, fast, don't eat carbs or eat very low amounts, and eat lots of healthy fats. Again grossly simplified, eat almost any fats, but not trans-satiated fats, those are poison to you anyway. When it comes to proteins, I just try to eat lots, and if I get a tummy ache due to eating too much proteins, then I eat less proteins. I don't worry so much about eating enough proteins if I don't workout. I lied above, by omission. I eat lots of carbs, because there are some carbs I don't count. By count I mean I don't regard them as being calories. What calories do I not count then? Mostly vegetables! Some veggies I do count though, like potatoes.

I need to have a short paragraph about eating fats. Its super important in a keto diet. Fat makes you feel satiated. It is no surprise since fats are much more energy dense than carbs including sugar. Feeling satiated is hormonal. Your body does send out hormones, or inhibit hormones, and Ghrelin hormone makes you feel hungry, and Ghrelin production is suppressed when you are digesting fats. Terms to google in regards to this is "fat adapted" which means that the body can more easily use fat as a fuel source throughout the day. And "insulin resistance", not directly related, but very important.

One more thing, when cutting out sweets, everything else starts tasting much better. Everything that has a hint of sweetness gets amplified. Even cold brew coffee. I often cold brew at home, and then heat it (pour some concentrated cold brew in a cup and add hot water), and its so sweet I almost dream about it.

Lastly, and shortly. What supplements do I recommend? Generally assuming you don't have any deficits due to your diet. If I want to eat as much protein as I can tolerate (like because of working out) then whey protein, without added sugar is great! Creatine is also great I could write 3 paragraphs about creatine, and lastly(assuming you get enough vitamins, minerals, and omega3) I also recommend, psyllium husk. Psyllium husk is a great source of amazing fiber, and it really helps me stabilize my gut. Especially together with a keto diet, I go from having close to IBS to feeling like I got a very healthy gut.

Next the foods: I'll reply to my own comment because there is a character limit

Chobbes , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

So… Are you just unaware of fruits, vegetables, and legumes, haha? In my opinion there’s a huge amount of food that fits all three categories. One of the best example of cheap, delicious, healthy, and easy is beans and rice, spiced up however you like.

foggenbooty ,

Yup. Mexican, Indian, a lot of cuisine from poorer countries figured this out long ago. Beans or lentils over rice with the right spices, incredible. The restaurant version will add a lot of fat and heavy cream but if you make it yourself you can adjust that so it's not unhealthy.

dangblingus , to newcommunities in fucknestle has come to lemmy.world

Welcome! We also hate Nestle here!

RBWells , to newcommunities in fucknestle has come to lemmy.world

Oh fuck nestle to hell and back for selling the water from Ginnie Springs and while we’re at it fuck the bought politicians here who let them do it. They will need a big handbasket for that trip.

Potato_in_my_anus , to programmerhumor in I lied

How to lose a girl in 3 seconds.

GNUmer , to programmerhumor in I lied

How about both?

ThesePaycheckAvenging ,

It's really hard to code while fucking.

Eavolution ,
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Have you tried? Personally doggy is ideal for me, get the laptop on her back.

SSUPII ,

And burn your partner’s back with the laptop reaching 100°C trying to compile?

SSUPII , to programmerhumor in I lied

Jokes on you, I would totally be on board with expanding my C knowledge.

EROLoLICON ,
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And that's not the only thing we're going to expand. 😉

Fmstrat , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

The one thing missing from the trinity is “effort”. For instance, you could make any Dal, which would fit the trinity, but takes a lot of time. There are books with hundreds of Dal recipes that all taste different and work, too. And this is just one example. Less than a dollar a meal if made in bulk with rice.

nijntjefan OP ,
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Fmstrat ,

You just made a food pyramid that isn’t stupid.

Oswald_Buzzbald ,

You know, thinking back, we should never have trusted that stupid infographic. It was a lie from the get go. It was a food triangle. This is a true pyramid.

iriyan ,

Isn’t the true pyramid the one with a square base? I think this is called a tetrahedron.

OasisStorm , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

Sweet potatoes. Very nutritious, very cheap, and taste sweet. Easy to prepare to, you can just boil or bake them for a little while without adding anything and they're great just like that.

nevernevermore ,

are we allowed to add ingredients? A little soy sauce on that and you’ve basically got yourself a meal

nijntjefan OP ,
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I didn’t even know that you can add soy sauce to sweet potatoes!

leanleft ,
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classic

z3n0x , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?
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humus

Fmstrat ,

Only truly cheap if you make it yourself. That’s why I commented below on the missing item of “effort”.

z3n0x ,
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granted

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

Jimmy Joy. Cheap (under 2 euros per meal), delicious and you can't really get any more nutritious than that. It has all the recommended nutrients in one go.

NotAPenguin ,

+1, jimmy joy is great

Kaldo , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?
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Beans! Especially stew with them, you can throw in pretty much anything (veggies, meat, adjust your spice levels...) and once you learn the correct balance it's very tasty and filling.

NotAPenguin , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?
nijntjefan OP ,
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Thanks but I’ll pass on food advice from the UK /s

overzeetop ,
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Always remember - the flavor of their food and the beauty of their women led Britain to be the greatest seafaring nation in the world.

bitcrafter ,

Huh, interesting, that page says that vegan diets “reduced food costs by up to one third [emphasis mine]”, which I guess is nothing to scoff at but on the other hand doesn’t seem that large; I would have expected the relative cost of including meat in your diet to increase food costs by much more given how resource-intensive it is to produce meat compared to producing vegetables.

NotAPenguin ,

The prices of animal products are kept artificially low by subsidies and don't reflex the real world cost.

yunggwailo , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?
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Rice and beans, just be a little creative with preparation. Also you can make lots of soups that are cheap and healthy and its super easy to make too.

sudneo , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

My very Italian answer is “pizza bianca” . I guess “healthy” depends, but it’s generally OK carbs, it’s delicious and with few Euros you can buy quite a lot (enough for a lunch).

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