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AnalogyAddict , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

Everything from my garden!

Right now, lettuce, kale, dill, peas, strawberries, oregano… the lettuce is on its sixth year of re-seeding, same with the dill.

Dill & vinegar flavored kale chips are amazing.

regex1883 , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?

This will be controversial. I’m going with Costco rotisserie chicken. $5. They taste good fresh but bad reheated. I don’t eat the skin

AnalogyAddict ,

When there’s a half inch layer of fat, I think healthy has booked it out the door.

regex1883 ,

I’m not sure what you mean. Who eats chicken fat?

Ullallulloo , to nostupidquestions in Is there a food that is cheap, delicious and healthy at the same time?
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Well-seasoned, air-fried chicken is super healthy and cheap.

pineapplefriedrice ,

Chicken has been heavily, heavily marketed as a health food, and while it’s not the worst thing you could eat, if you actually look at its nutritional profile it’s not particularly nutritious or “healthy”. That’s just Tyson Foods & co working their magic. It’s more like the ultimate neutral food - nothing terrifying, nothing great, a bit like its taste.

Ullallulloo ,
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8oz of skinless breast has 250 calories, 0 carbs, and >50g of protein. That’s really nutritious and healthy in my book.

That’s very similar to something like lentils, and a lot better than something like rice which other people are saying but is essentially empty calories with barely any nutritional value.

pineapplefriedrice ,

Macronutrients are not what makes a food healthy. In particular, high-protein does not make a food healthy. By that reasoning a lot of fast food could be considered insanely healthy, but it’s not. That’s just our downright shitty levels of education surrounding nutrition.

What actually makes a food healthy depends on a lot of different factors, but a common one and relatively reliable standard bearer is whether it is “nutritious”. When a food is nutritious or nutrient dense, it is micronutrient dense. This includes things like spinach and beans and seeds and broccoli and all of the other foods that your parents made you eat. Micronutrient poor foods are ones that have relatively few micronutrients, but usually are relatively calorie rich. This includes things like mozzarella sticks, wonderbread, fruit gushers, heavy cream, twinkies, and so on. We do need macronutrients, but virtually anyone who gets enough energy (calories) from food also gets enough of them, except in specific cases like being a professional athlete. The athlete wouldn’t die of protein deprivation if they didn’t pay attention to their intake, but it would make it harder for them to perform well.

So no, chicken is not, by any standard, “really nutritious and healthy”. It’s not completely devoid of nutrients - it’s relatively rich in phosphorus and selenium if you eat it on its own, for example, but it’s far from what anyone would consider nutritious. It’s somewhere in between fried mars bars and spinach.

sacbuntchris ,

Chicken breast lean protein. What do you mean by “nutritional profile”?

pineapplefriedrice ,

Lean protein =/= healthy. Like, at all. This is a myth from the freaking 1980s. Nutritional profile is a breakdown of the micronutrients that a food has, and it determines whether a food is “nutritious” and therefore, in general terms, “healthy”.

Please, oh please, don’t go around telling people that food is healthy if it is a lean protein. I’m sure it’s well intended, but it’s also misinformed. If you want to learn about how to assess whether a food is healthy, go make an appointment with a dietitian - your insurance will often cover the first appointment.

sacbuntchris ,

You sure typed a lot without explaining what the nutritional profile of chicken is or why it’s not healthy.

pineapplefriedrice ,

Sorry, unfortunately nutrition is more complex than what you can sum up in a few sentences. To answer that though:

  • Chicken isn’t categorically “unhealthy” in the same way double stuf oreos cooked in lard are - I said in another comment that it’s the ultimate neutral food, and if you look at its profile I think that’s a fair statement. It’s not completely devoid of nutrients, it has a couple of things in significant quantities - phosphorus, selenium, and B3 for example - but overall it’s not very nutrient dense. It doesn’t have a ton of huge negatives either - a bit of saturated fat, but nothing to write home about. If you’re looking at a “Hitler-Hanks” spectrum where the lard oreos are on one end and a spinach chia seed broccoli whatever salad on the other, then chicken is probably right in the middle somewhere. Its D&D alignment is True Neutral. The point I was making in my earlier comment was that “protein” doesn’t make a food healthy, and that there’s a lot more to it than that, and if people use that mental shortcut they might end up making misinformed decisions.
  • The nutritional profile of chicken would be a lot to type out, but you can look at the NCCDB or Cronometer Gold (which uses NCCDB among others) for an elaborate breakdown. Just keep in mind that it doesn’t capture everything - it’s an amazing tool, but it won’t cover the catechins in your tea, for example.

Ultimately though, if you’re reading this, let me take this opportunity to encourage you to GO SEE A REGISTERED DIETITIAN. Your insurance will often cover 80+% of your first appointment, but even if they don’t it’s an amazing investment. You’ll live longer, probably spend less on food, and spend a lot less on hospital bills after your first heart attack.

x4740N ,
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I think you are the same kind of post brigader that I’ve seen on reddit before from a certain 5 letter sub

Please know that what your doing is bad faith and you shouldn’t be policing or harassing other users online for what they consume

stick to your own personal dietary preferences and let others stick to theirs

IlllIIIlllIlllI ,

Are you kidding? Name a cleaner protein source than chicken lol

MrGeekman , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

“When the light is green, the urinal’s clean.”

TheLurker , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

Try to understand, that is a high voltage laser containment system. Simply turning it off would be like dropping a bomb on the city.

mizu6079 , to mildlyinfuriating in All that effort for nothing
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I mean… what else did you expect when you let the internet decide on something via votes?

ArtificialLink , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

I don’t know why

My dude have you ever heard of “just for fun?”

Kotton , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights
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Does the red light mean it’s out of order? Or is that some kind of red light special?

Kotton ,
@Kotton@lemmy.ml avatar

Oops, didn’t read the body!

caut_R , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

Looks like you could make an alarm go off if you use it „well“ enough lol

marcar , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

This is not a urinal, this is an inter-dimensional time space teleportation device

TurnItOff_OnAgain ,

Placement In Space and Situation of Eventual Relativity

Or PISSER for short.

KumquatGubbins , to mildlyinteresting in The urinal in this restaurant I went to had crazy pipes and lights

There is a chain of hotels/bars/breweries/distilleries/… called McMenamins, they have a few bathrooms like this. Damn cool

LongRedCoat , to memes in Title required

It's our first (that I'm aware of) fediverse meta! Awww, look at how we've grown.

SevereLow , to mildlyinfuriating in Websites telling me what I can do with my own browser so they can have their pointless cookies

Cookies are not evil per se... but data mining companies made them like that.

I'm administrating an online store and cookies are responsible for the customer's cart, plus their user session / logged in state.

As an admin I adhere to the "golden rule", thus there are no creepy trackers on store. I don't like them and I don't want customers to face the same thing on websites that I manage.

That said, cookies are needed for user session & fraud protection. Instead of nuking cookies we shall kick the trackers out.

CAPSLOCKFTW , to memes in Title required

This is the founding myth we need!

14four , to retrogaming in Can someone identify this old 80's arcade game "Herpes"?
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Looks like it may be Ray Davies who is presenting the game in the clip. I’m doubting that he actually programmed it :)

edit: prob not, found the scene with Ray Davies youtu.be/S9HKI1dU_Yo?t=2767

lordfrito OP ,

Are you suggesting it’s Ray Davies from The Kinks?? He would have been 38-40 at the time of the video, the guy in the video looks younger.

14four ,
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Yeah, I’m not sure, from the cast list he looks similar.

Zardozer ,

It doesn’t look like Ray Davies to me. Very interesting show, it’s kind of like Black Mirror if it was done in a more experimental pseudo-documentary format. It’s about the “Video Age” lol.

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