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thisbenzingring , to cat in The smirk kills me. He's plotting something, I just know it.

Hello… Friend…ha!. By the way, when are you going to sleep…

Vaggumon OP ,
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This was taken yesterday morning, just after I woke up. I think he wanted treats more then anything nefarious. But he’s a charmer, so may have had other ideas too.

kadu , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated my Samsung phone and it installed unwanted apps
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Is this a regional thing? None of my Samsung phones (Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S10 and Galaxy S23) ever installed apps like these automatically. They did come with Microsoft apps bundled in, and I believe Facebook too, but after deactivating them they never came back. Never games though.

notasandwich1948 ,

yes specifically a us or canadian carrier thing

kadu ,
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Ah… So not a Samsung thing, but a carrier thing. I should have guessed, carriers are disgusting. Nowadays it’s rare where I live, but not so long ago they even got in the middle of Android updates and replaced the bootlogo with their own branding, I even know of some devices stuck on old Android versions because while the official release is available the carrier never bothered shipping the update.

I also dislike how SIM cards run independent from the main CPU and can spawn their little Java applets whenever they want, my carrier used to randomly display ads as full prompts that got in front of any other app with highest priority using the “SIM toolkit” feature of Android, which you can’t disable. Only stopped after I gave them a call claiming if I see another one of those I’d report them to the consumer rights watchdog from my region.

thanevim ,

Holy shit. The only time I'd be ok with my carrier doing that would be if I didn't have to pay them a single fucking dime. You don't get to double dip, carriers. You're already over charging for data use.

Mindlight ,

I’m pretty sure it’s a Samsung thing. I’m located in Sweden and they’ve done this on my unlocked (not locked to a specific operator) Samsung phones ( S5, S8, S20 and S20FE 5G).

001100010010 ,
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Unlocked phones still have carrier bloat if you got them from a carrier

Mindlight ,

Not a thing in Sweden.

digitalgadget ,

I ordered mine directly from the manufacturer and it doesn't install stuff. However, I also declined to agree to any of the Samsung ecosystem helper apps like the Store or Bixby.

roht ,

I also have a S20 FE and can attest to the bloatware they install with each software update.

glockenspiel ,

I’d argue that it is a Samsung thing. They let carriers do this. Just like they host ads in the notification shade and first party apps in some markets.

To Samsung. One of the largest companies in the world. Samsung chooses to allow this because they get money for it from the carriers.

GalacticBagelHole ,

Let’s also not forget Samsung are the ones who give you the privilege of getting built-in ads on your expensive new TV. Ads and bloatware absolutely are part of Samsung’s business model.

bdonvr ,

Exactly. Apple doesn’t allow it.

makingStuffForFun ,
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Australian here. Never happened… yet

Quills ,
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Ooh, it had to be them

tiredofsametab ,

My wife's phone does this as well (Japan)

Shadowsource ,

Same thing here with s21 ultra on tmobile. Just went looking and have a bunch of samsung/tmobile/microsoft stuff built in but that's about it. Have been asked I think once or twice with certain app store updates if I wanted to install game apps but declined them and haven't seen any since.

edit- am US based

HobbitFoot ,

It is probably what they are allowed to do according to the law.

saltesc ,

It’s illegal where I’m from and I imagine many other places. I assume OP is from the US where the voters tolerate this sort of stuff more.

sloonark , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated my Samsung phone and it installed unwanted apps

One of the many reasons I will only ever buy Pixel phones. No bloatware.

SaltyEggs OP ,
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I agree. This is my work phone so I had no choice. My personal phone is the Pixel 5a.

RvTV95XBeo ,

Thinking about making the jump to grapheneos, the only thing holding me back is my addiction to Android Auto

Salix ,

GrapheneOS is pretty damn great. But yes… Android Auto is something I do miss :(

i_am_hiding ,

Can you get away with MirrorLink? Truthfully I’ve never tried it, and I’m pretty sure it’s dead if not dying, but it was always going to be my fallback if I found a way to leave Google (or potentially Android entirely).

Holzkohlen ,

I’m on a Pixel 4a right now running CalyxOS. I relly want to get a FairPhone next tho. Repairability is awesome

Swarfega ,

This is the main reason I’ve stuck with Nexus/Pixel. I’ve tried Samsung but everything on it is unwanted bloat. Amazing hardware screwed by bloat and duplicated apps. Shame.

norske , to mildlyinfuriating in Updated my Samsung phone and it installed unwanted apps

I hate that. One of the reasons I dislike Samsung phones. Last phone from them was a Note 8 and unless they go back to a pure Android experience, I won’t get another. We know that isn’t happening any time soon.

Honestly I’m super over all our current choices. Im on an iPhone and while I like their privacy stuff slightly better than android, there are lots of things I don’t like.

I also hate how much metadata the big G snorts up. Even just the location data they retain is out of this world.

There just aren’t any options if you want something that doesn’t keep you boxed into a closed ecosystem or track every love you make.

HourglassHayden ,

You can get a Google pixel and sideload an operating system such as Grapheneos, and you won’t have to deal with any of Google’s bs spying. Highly recommend looking into it.

Comrat ,

I recently made the switch and it’s great. Definitely takes a bit of understanding and research to know what you’re getting into, though.

norske ,

Yeah. That’s what I’ve been looking into. I used to root and do roms and stuff. Back in the day I was pretty involved in the XDA community.

Xanvial ,

At that point why not just using Samsung phone and sideload the OS? Seems weird to do that on Pixel which has inferior hardware and good software (like its camera apps), and then remove the software

claudiop ,

Simple reason being that there’s no notoriously good OS for Samsung phones.

Graphene is highly focused on not being annoying while keeping privacy intact. You can, for example, have Google Play Services, within a sandbox. Everything can be denied network access, or any access really, on a per app basis.

It also relies on Google’s security chip to keep the chain of trust intact. The boot sequence and your private keys are kept intact that way. Not everyone documents and opens their hardware as well as Google. Samsung is notoriously terrible and full of it when it comes to allowing you to do your own thing.

KuroJ ,

I recently just bought a pixel 6 and have been interested in Graphene OS, but would I lose features like live translate and the hold for me feature?

claudiop ,

live translate

What is that? Google translate listening and translating live? Google lens translating images? Both work.

hold for me feature

No clue about what that is.

In general most things work just the same, and things that do not tend to be listed in the Graphene docs.

Derproid ,

I wanted to do that but need to use Google apps for work (specifically google chat won’t work).

ellie ,
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You can run Google Play services on GrapheneOS it’s called Sanboxed Google Play. It allows you to run Play services as a normal app without any special privileges so you can install it without sacrificing all of your phones data to google. Should allow you to use pretty much all Google apps.

Derproid ,

This isn’t enough for work apps that require Android Device Policy unfortunately. When I researched it in November I found that it would require too many permissions so GrapheneOS isn’t planning on supporting it.

nondescript_citizen ,

What about the fairphones? I was reading up on them and might get one. I like that they come with an android fork and open-source apps so you don’t have to deal with Google. Plus being fully repairable and sustainably-made. Does anyone have any experience with them?

jasep ,

The problem is getting one if you’re in North America…

electrogamerman ,

Where are they originally? Would it be easier to get one in Europe?

I have a note 9 and i think its time to replace this piece of shit. It lasted like 2 years without problems and then “magically” is started to fail

nondescript_citizen ,

They have officially come to the US recently: murena.com/america/shop/…/murena-fairphone-4/

nondescript_citizen ,

But they’re in America now? murena.com/america/shop/…/murena-fairphone-4/

jasep ,

Good to know, thanks. Hopefully they’ll come to Canada soon too.

rikudou ,

Apple’s biggest success is convincing people they care about your privacy.

Reamen ,

It’s really frustrating because Samsung is basically the leader in Android phones right now.

I hope we get a bunch of new good options this year because I really need to upgrade and posts like this remind me why I don’t by Samsung.

EdibleFriend ,
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wtf do you go with for a quality hardware android reasonably priced? LG got out of the phone game which sucks ass. Pixel can be great but they are all flagship prices. Samsung, while having horrible shit like this, is quality hardware and has lots of models under $200.

Presi300 , to mildlyinfuriating in This news site is 60% Amazon ads.
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This oughta help

Swordman5 , to memes in I found this rare gem in my PC

I take issue with the first description of the first one. It is an evolution from what was courage wolf. Courage wolf was a meme template where the top line set up the situation and the bottom showed how you courageously did something in response.

People then took it to the next level with insanity wolf, the one depicted here. The top line is the same, setting up some kind of situation. But the bottom line changed to doing something absolutely insane that no person would ever ever do in real life.

ablackcatstail , to cat in This isn't what it looks like.
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Is the black kitty a Scottish Fold?

Vaggumon OP ,
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No, we are not 100% sure, but we think he might be a Ragdoll, though dark furred versions are not officially recognized as Ragdolls for some reason.

FlyingSquid , to aww in This is George. George is an idiot, but he's my idiot.
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I sympathize. I have two idiots in my care myself. I love the little idiots, but man are they stupid.

driving_crooner , to memes in I found this rare gem in my PC
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The 8th one, with the lady crying, is definitely wrong. It was a first-world problems, something people wirh comfy lives would complain that are not a real problem.

Tavarin ,
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That’s basically what it says, just worded differently.

notsofunnycomment ,
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“Third” should be “first”. I think its a slip of the keyboard.

Nyanix , to mildlyinteresting in My melatonin gummies melted into a super gummy
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Don’t be a coward.
Sleep tight 😉

Agent641 ,

Sleep paralysis demon, dont call me, Ill call you.

NielsBohron , to memes in Brute Force Solving
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As a college chem professor, the reason for this is nearly always cheating.

“Hmm, you got the right answer with the wrong method, and your friend that you sit next to every day used the right method and got the same exact answer as you, down to the rounding? Haha, what are the odds??!?”

Zero. The odds are zero (within sig figs).

ekky43 , to memes in What the hell are you guys posting here?
itsJoelleScott , to programmerhumor in pointers are very eleganto

H-how did this meme clear up a confusion I have with ** pointers after all these years?

They’re just pointer pointers!

Dang, that is so cool C can do that.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
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pointer pointers

wait until you learn about template templates in C++

gravitas_deficiency ,

Are the templates in the room with us right now?

b1_ , (edited )
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Yeah, and I'm pointing to your pointer pointer and I'm a pointer pointer pointer. Or more accurately but less funny is that I'm pointing to your pointer-to-pointer and I'm a pointer-to-pointer-to-pointer.

shotgun_crab , (edited )

I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy

mediocreatbest ,

If you’ve never seen this before, I think it’s transformative to how you read C/C++ declarations and clearer up a lot of confusion for me when I was learning.

cseweb.ucsd.edu/~gbournou/CSE131/rt_lt.rule.html

dandroid , to programmerhumor in pointers are very eleganto

I’m a simple man. I see Anya, I upvote.

AlmightySnoo OP ,
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here, have a peanut 🥜

dandroid ,

I love peanuts!

AlmightySnoo OP ,
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gravitas_deficiency ,

Damn, OP’s on point tonight

clutchmatic ,

No, he is on a pointer to a pointer to a point tonight

anon_water , to aww in This is George. George is an idiot, but he's my idiot.
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His coat color is really nice.

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