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lambda , to technology in Brave's aggressive marketing

I really don’t understand why people use and recommend brave. They’ve have had plenty of shady practices in the past and bundle crypto crap by default. If you want to block ads just install ublock origin on (preferably) any privacy respecting browser like firefox (or better yet librewolf), ungoogled-chromium etc

ominouslemon ,

They just don’t know any better. And when you tell them about Brave’s history, they just don’t listen

Ashatmapants ,
@Ashatmapants@lemmy.world avatar

This is the first time I heard about this. Was using it in the past on iOS, but I’m now using an extension in safari to block ads. What exactly is wrong with Brave?

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

They were using crypto miners in Brave (now it’s just opt-out optional I think), altering search result’s, and also something about their CEO being a weirdo I think. And also all this dirty advertising and tactics. They’re just shady all around.

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

There was never a miner in Brave. Their legitimate crypto related features have always been optional. They did add referal links in some urls though

I_hate_you_welcome ,

There you go, and that’s why nobody should believe the commenter you replied to without him providing sources. Shame 10 people already agreed with him.

HughJanus ,

They were using crypto miners in Brave

Huh? They have a crypto service that you can easily opt out of.

altering search result’s

…they have their own search engine they built from scratch. So yeah.

also something about their CEO being a weirdo I think

I love weirdos

And also all this dirty advertising and tactic

This is an incredibly generic complaint

Maybe people “don’t listen” because you’re full of crap.

vinceman ,

Can you expand at all? I don’t have a dog in the fight.

ominouslemon ,

There are controversies around Brave itself and also its CEO, Brendan Eich (also inventor of JavaScript and also former Mozilla CEO).

  • Brave was altering search results by adding crypto redirects to links. Source.
  • Eich was forced to resign from Mozilla CEO because he made donations against gay marriage. Also, he basically is a covid conspiracy theorist. Source

You might not care about a company’s CEO behavior, as long as they do a good job. I usually do not. In this case, I can’t help but feel that the whole project is kinda shady.

interesting_bat ,

Regarding the covid stuff, hasn’t he been proven right?

Masks have been determined to be minimally effective against covid (barring N95 I believe) and Fauci has been proven to be dishonest as shown in the leaks surrounding gain of function research in Wuhan. It’s effectively been proven the U.S. knew about the research, was funding(?) the research and in essence is at least partially responsible for the outbreak under Fauci’s watch. They attempted to downplay the actual origins of Covid-19 due to this association.

ominouslemon ,

I reeeeeaally don’t want to go into that, but no: masks have been proven to be effective, if worn correctly, even non-n95 ones. It’s not a mystery that, if something is in the way of your spit, you’re not going to infect as many people. As for the whole outbreak origin debate, scientists went back and forth between the “wet market” theory and the “lab escape” theory. The last research I’ve seen was pretty confident in the “wet market” theory. No Fauci involved there.

interesting_bat ,

Disappointing that false information will propagate here, just like on Reddit: washingtonpost.com/…/cochrane-study-masks-covid-p…

www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/…/full

Review “the science”.

It’s not a mystery that, if something is in the way of your spit, you’re not going to infect as many people.

The virus is so much smaller than whatever material you’re putting over your mouth that it hardly seems to matter at all. This “seems logical” but isn’t if you actually think about it.

As for the Fauci gain of function link: theintercept.com/…/covid-origins-gain-of-function…It’s less clear cut than I had previously though. It looks suspicious, but there isn’t certainty.

Galluf ,

It’s more that do far I haven’t seen anything wrong with the browser itself.

e569668 ,
@e569668@fedia.io avatar

Firefox runs really poorly for twitch and youtube videos for me in linux; mainly in CPU. Brave will use maybe 10-20% of my cpu for a single twitch stream whereas firefox uses about 80%. I use firefox for all my browsing, but for videos it just doesn't seem to work well... Perhaps a different chromium browser would be better as you say.

Giooschi ,

Sounds like your Firefox is not using hardware acceleration for displaying videos. It does support it, but whether it will be enabled on Linux depends on a bunch of factors (distro/packages installed, cpu/gpu vendor/drivers, some weird settings etc etc)

latinodestinyqqa ,

Honestly? Firefox on android sucks and unless you’re getting a fork like Mull on f-droid, the default Firefox on on the Playstore is really bad for privacy too. Brave just covers all the bases on Android and there isn’t much to complain about.

lambda , (edited )

I’ve been using using firefox and more recently fennec and mull on android for years now and I’ve never had a problem with it. Why do you think it sucks? Just the fact that you can install extensions on firefox (or fennec or mull) makes it by far the best browser in my opinion. I do agree that firefox by default has some privacy issues but there’s no way it’s worse than chrome which almost everyone uses, and as you said you can just use a fork like mull for best privacy.

Ultra980 ,

you can also install extensions on kiwi browser

phx ,

Yeah I tried it on mobile and it peppered me with requests/pop-ups to get their paid services… Install didn’t last long

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

The situation on mobile is dire. Bromite and Ungoogled-Chromium are dead, and mobile Firefox is slow crap that Mozilla doesn’t give two fucks about. I’m grinding my teeth using IceRaven and Mulch, but I’m not surprised those with less patience would use an all-in-one solution.

aman25ta ,

Mobile firefox on ios has been way better than almost everything else, atleast compared to like brave and chrome etc

Maybe its being neglected on android? Im on the latest version and ios 17 dev beta

WhoRoger , (edited )
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

On iOS, FF is using Safari core so there shouldn’t be any speed difference, and maybe they can concentrate on UI stuff.

Or maybe you’re not looking for stuff I want that used to be in FF but were removed - like bookmarks export/import. That’s just criminal that it was axed in favor of their fIrEFoX AcCunT

aman25ta ,

Yeah which is why I didn’t mention safari, just others like chrome where i could feel it at times, difference in Ui or something like that maybe? It was a long time ago though

JackbyDev ,

The only thing I wish I had on Firefox is tab groups. That’s it. It’s totally fine otherwise.

(Don’t suggest me an extension. I’ve tried them. They suck. This isn’t a deal breaker for me. I use Firefox.)

aman25ta ,

Huh

Ive never really used tab groups so they arent really a problem for me, might try them out someday though

Nioxic ,

I have had compatibility issues with firefox

Somepages straight up dont work

Mubelotix ,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Dev tools are broken on my side. Nothing displays in that panel

sermed , to lemmyshitpost in Saw this while boarding the plane.
@sermed@lemmy.world avatar

👹

housepanther , to cat in This is Finn. He is a little bit derpy.
@housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com avatar

All cats are a little derpy. I like his fangies popping out.

Hellstormy OP ,
@Hellstormy@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s right.

Your profile pic is very nice btw. I have a photo of Finn where he has the same look:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/e8b1e7fd-0f01-4302-91ef-7968a71eb333.jpeg

housepanther ,
@housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com avatar

Thank you! Finn looks very good. The photo in my avatar was the kitty I had for 19 years. Even though she passed in 2017, I still miss her very much.

Thekingoflorda , to technology in Brave's aggressive marketing
@Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world avatar

I really doubt that is marketing. I just think that’s an over-enthusiastic user.

frequency OP ,
@frequency@lemmy.world avatar

Idk, sound like a paid comment to me.

OverBiasedAndroid6L6 ,

Perhaps you sound like a FireFox or otherwise Anti-Brave shill

Logicgizmo ,

Touche

frequency OP ,
@frequency@lemmy.world avatar

Wow wow, slow down dude, now you sound like a Brave shill yourself.

DrinkBoba ,

That was the point he was making. Who knows. I agree though sounds like some kid who just discovered an app he likes and is spamming it everywhere. Sadly most marketing is hard to discover.

Niello ,

I could see myself doing that tbh, but for other things. There's always this urge to promote the less well known stuff. It just depends on when you're in the mood to actually type it out.

xMadwood ,

It’s brave shills all the way down

SloganLessons ,
@SloganLessons@kbin.social avatar

I love this reply

squi ,

I shill brave on iOS regularly as a way to get past ads on mobile and watch with background playback. But that’s more because of how much I hate ads than any loyalty to brave. I highly doubt they’re paying for the kind of low quality shilling this guy is doing on Amazon. If they are, they can start paying me as well!

SloganLessons ,
@SloganLessons@kbin.social avatar

if you're interested in alternatives with adblockers:

  • adguard extension for safari, for general browsing
  • video lite app for youtube, or any other video playing website. It's a browser disguised as video player, but it's really well done, feels like I'm using the oficial youtube app
dontwakethetrees ,
@dontwakethetrees@lemmy.world avatar

For iOS there is the Orion Browser. Its a privacy based fork of Safari for iOS and macOS, with built in ad-block, anti-fingerprinting, and supports background and PiP youtube. I use it as my default browser on iOS and Mac.

Its built on webkit, just like Firefox on iOS, but supports both Firefox and Chrome extensions. And their CEO isn’t a crypto shill or anti-lgbtq.

Elephant ,

Interesting. Are they open source too or a private company like Brave?

dontwakethetrees ,
@dontwakethetrees@lemmy.world avatar

They are currently closed source like Brave for now but it’s a relatively new browser and still technically open beta (I’m on 0.99.124.4.1).

They say they are working on going open source. However their Github seems to currently get infrequent updates.

PlatinumSf ,

You’re insane.

frequency OP ,
@frequency@lemmy.world avatar

Aren’t we all?

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

No. I mean, I am, but not everyone.

PlexSheep ,
@PlexSheep@feddit.de avatar

Yeah I agree. I am too, insane. But not everyone.

Thekingoflorda ,
@Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not even a comment, it’s an answer to an Q&A on amazon, I’m sure there are more efficient ways to advertise a browser.

red ,

You’re paranoid, mate

eager_eagle ,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

Brave and Opera GX both have lots of fanboys

PancakedWaffle ,

I could have written that if I wrote like I was 14. Definitely out here shilling brave. Try it out if you haven’t.

PlexSheep ,
@PlexSheep@feddit.de avatar

Do you really think that amazon questions is a place ada would be put into? Not for something sold on Amazon mind you, but a browser!

keenkoon ,

agree, it’s just a dude saying that he likes the built-in ad blocker. I do this with youtube on my smartphone too.

LordDemecrius83 ,
@LordDemecrius83@lemmy.world avatar

Wait till you hear about revanced

Edit: fixed spelling

HughJanus ,

Wait til you hear about LibreTube

Atemu ,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m honestly a bit surprised their comment doesn’t contain the user’s affiliate links. “Over-enthusiastic” users used to spam theirs everywhere.

mochi ,

Same mentality as the crypto bros.

ProgKing , to linux_gaming in Help me to install Diablo 2 The Hell

Thank you so much, good man! I already ruined my character by opening the Butcher’s chamber and was unable to kill him :D

quitenormal , to mildlyinfuriating in Youtube added shorts to the subscriptions page, pushing the subscriptions almost entirely off the page...

I generally only use the Android client. But if there’s any similarity, there’s no way to stop them spamming you with their shorts.

YouTube be like

SiyahGuraag , to pics in [OC] The peak of Summer. Near the Klagenfurt, Austria.

Dude, that’s a beautiful place. Must be a peaceful place.

10EXP , to technology in Top Extensions to Make YouTube Bearable
@10EXP@sh.itjust.works avatar

Truffle improves the livestream watching experience on YouTube significantly, adding a Twitch-style theatre mode (with chat on the side), BetterTTV emotes, and more.

o_d ,
@o_d@lemmy.ml avatar

I almost installed, but the permissions it asks for feels a bit extreme. I’ll probably stick to creating my own theatre mode by using the enhancer full window mode with the pop-out chat to the side.

FlyingSquid , to mildlyinfuriating in Youtube added shorts to the subscriptions page, pushing the subscriptions almost entirely off the page...
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like all the people talking about how to block Shorts are missing the point.

complacent_jerboa , to lemmyshitpost in My Lemmy experience so far

what are these awful, awful communities I should be staying away from

namelessdread ,
just_squanch_it ,

looks over shoulder**whispers lemmynsfw.com

InternetTubes , to lemmyshitpost in "It has to be Chromium"

Iceweasel: Firefox!? Them’s fighting words!

scarabic , to technology in Top Extensions to Make YouTube Bearable

I love to see all this fantastic innovation but it’s a shame that most of it is confined to desktop/laptop computers. 95% of my YouTube consumption is on my phone, iPad, and Roku. Those platforms just aren’t extensible in the same ways. It’s too bad because I’m least likely to sit at my gaming PC watching videos.

I will mention that if you go premium, ads are removed on all devices.

hsr ,
@hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Points 1, 2, 3 and 5 are included in the Youtube Vanced app. If you’re using Apple devices that won’t really help you though.

Gestrid , (edited )

Vanced used to be the way to go, but the project isn’t being maintained anymore.

Instead, I’d recommend ReVanced. It can be pretty simple to setup. All you need is Vanced MicroG, ReVanced Manager, and a download of the recommended version of the YouTube app from APKMirror. Currently, the recommended version is v18.23.35. (ReVanced Manager will tell you what the recommended version is every time you go to patch YouTube.)

Install Vanced MicroG first. Then install and open ReVanced Manager. Open the “Patch” tab, “Select an application”, then select “Storage” and navigate to where the YouTube app you downloaded is located. Then “Select patches”, making sure to include the MicroG patch. Then select “Patch”, then “Install”. You’re done!

Bonus tip: After the patch process is complete, before you tap “Install”, tap the three-dot menu in the upper-right and select “Export” to export the patched APK in case you run into trouble with the installation itself. That way, you don’t have to rerun the whole patching process, and you have a backup.

Edit: It seems !revanced has a guide you can follow, too, in their Master Post.

bingbong ,

Use vinegar for iOS, it makes YouTube in safari a million times better

ours ,

Can you install Android apps on the Roku? SmartTubeNext is amazing on Android TV as it has most of these extensions integrated. On the Nvidia Shield TV is works like a charm.

Orionza ,
@Orionza@lemmy.zip avatar

I have a Shield and would like to try this.

ours ,

You have to side-load it and then it self-updates. I’ve used this guide techmogulchannel.com/tutorial-how-to-install-smar…. Do note that SmartTubeNext doesn’t support HDR on the Shield but that’s fine. If you really want it, just keep both the official Youtube app and SmartTube and switch if you want to watch something in HDR.

Orionza ,
@Orionza@lemmy.zip avatar

Oh thanks. I’ve marked this as to look into doing on my Shield. Thanks for the tips!

NightOwl , (edited )

phone, iPad, and Roku

I use newpipe x sponsorblock on my phone. I have my subscriptions imported and I actually like that I can retain a feed without having to be signed into a google account.

For iPad I got safari with adguard and sponsorblock installed and airplay that to the TV. Does Roku support airplay? So now I get not only blocked ads but segments I want blocked like being asking to like, subscribe, intros, outros, recaps, and sponsored segments.

If you just want to watch youtube on the iPad just use a piped instance which has sponsorblock built in. !piped

caffeine , to world in The hottest 14 days ever recorded are the last 2 weeks
@caffeine@lemmy.ml avatar

I recall that 5-6 years ago, temperatures around 30 Celsius were outrageous, unprecedented and unbearable here in Central Europe. Now, we’re seeing stuff like 40 degrees and we don’t even whine about it anymore.

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

What? We had way more than one 30°C day per Year in Germany, in the 90s. I remember these days quite fondly, because we’ve had a really great swimming bath.

robsonm ,
@robsonm@lemmy.world avatar

What are you talking about?! In Poland it was quite usuall to get >30 deg for few weeks during summer. Actually last few years are colder than they were around 2010-2015 at least where I live. Climate is changing, that’s it. Calling it global warming is stupid.

LwL ,

Calling it global warming isn’t stupid, the globe is warming. It doesn’t mean “everywhere is warming” but “the global average is warming”.

LwL ,

40 was stupidly high and rare and now it’s still stupidly high but less rare and people very much still complain about it, 30 wasn’t super rare my entire life and i still complain about anything over 25 lol.

Local weather doesn’t mean much anyway, hottest 2 weeks on earth and where I live has been mostly pretty chill with 2 days that were actually hot (and those still only went to like 31). Pretty much the way i remember summer commonly being a while ago.

And just to be clear i am in no way trying to pretend climate change isn’t real, it’s real and we’re all royally fucked, but 30° really isn’t anything new and also saying “it was 40 degrees for a week” on its own doesn’t really say more than “global warming can’t be real it was -10 last week”.

Serinus ,

I agree with you in spirit, but that last sentence is pushing it.

I get the whole weather vs climate thing, but this heat is going past that. It’s pretty difficult to not attribute this historically unprecedented heat wave directly to climate change.

LwL ,

I am primarily attributing it to that, especially since it’s affecting large parts of europe and also just the fact that it’s been a general trend. I just suck at phrasing sometimes.

My main point was really just that 30° in central europe has not been weird in the last 100 years.

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes we have to look at accumulated data, not any particular data point or weather event. And so there will always be visceral rejections based on anecdotal experience which just feels more relevant than the actually-relevant data.

stark , to technology in Top Extensions to Make YouTube Bearable

I use Firefox as my everyday browser and a Chromium browser for all my Google services.

Those of you that are using YouTube with Firefox, are you concerned about tracking while you’re signed into your Google account? Do you notice a decrease in performance while using YouTube on Firefox?

drphungky ,

I absolutely notice youtube is worse in Firefox, presumably because of uBlock because I didn’t have any of these installed (except enhancer) before I saw this post. It’s particularly bad on mobile. BUT I think it’s still worth it overall top have a better experience.

Reliant1087 ,

For some reason YouTube is far better on Firefox for me than on Chrome.

NightOwl ,

are you concerned about tracking while you’re signed into your Google account?

That’s what containers are for. support.mozilla.org/…/how-use-firefox-containers

You can also set cookies to wipe when you exit the browser and set exclusions.

Flaky , to reddit in Please share your stories/screenshots of being banned from Reddit and/or Subreddits, as well as other social media platforms.
@Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Not me, but someone on r/TrashTaste got permanently banned from Reddit for posting a tweet.

https://iusearchlinux.fyi/pictrs/image/85eb8b9b-cde2-446a-b493-51ee6daf6d20.png

For context, Trash Taste is a podcast run by anime YouTubers. They had Chris Broad (a.k.a. Abroad in Japan) as a guest and it’s safe to say, they’re very friendly with each other so of course they’d share content involving and about Chris there. Someone decided to share Chris’ frustrated tweet about North Korea throwing missiles in Japanese waters, jokingly suggesting that the Japanese military get some “Patriot missiles” (which I’ve been told are purely defensive). For the record, this isn’t the first time NK has done this, and it’s not the first time Chris has been openly frustrated at it.

This ban is ridiculous - it’s not like someone is actually being threatened. It’s just some grumpy British man living in Japan venting his frustrations over a dictatorship trying to bomb the country he’s living in.

The tweet, and the ban image I found, are below.

https://iusearchlinux.fyi/pictrs/image/d987d9fb-67dd-44a3-b7bb-db61bfa4d0b6.pnghttps://iusearchlinux.fyi/pictrs/image/aff2ee47-e37e-4ad6-9c6a-7c4b75c25d7d.png

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