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GarfieldYaoi , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?
@GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net avatar

Everyone has a right to be lazy except for you.

Recruiters do nothing except tell people “no” when they need a job, and companies aren’t really looking for new people otherwise they wouldn’t turn down someone for not meeting ALL of their ridiculous demands.

Capitalism gets IN THE WAY of hard work, and sees hard workers as suckers, rather than rewards it.

Stinkywinks , to lemmyshitpost in Finding out the hard way

I don’t think wax paper goes in the oven either

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s what disposable baking sheets are, though

yA3xAKQMbq ,

Nah. Parchment paper goes into the oven, that’s another name for baking sheets. Waxed paper is used to wrap your sandwich. If you put waxed paper in the oven – well, see picture above.

FYI, some baking paper contains PFAS, the group of chemicals that also PTFE (aka Teflon) belongs to, which is… not good.

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ah, you learn something new everyday!

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Been while since I bought waxed paper, is it cheaper than parchment paper? I’m assuming it must be or why wouldn’t you just use parchment paper instead?

dvlsg , (edited )
@dvlsg@lemmy.world avatar

Wax paper can start on fire if you put it in the oven, parchment paper does not. Hence, the OP.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

I think you either misread my comment or responded to the wrong comment.

yA3xAKQMbq ,

Don’t know, don’t use baking paper at all

Eccitaze ,
@Eccitaze@yiffit.net avatar

Wax and parchment paper have VERY similar branding in the US, to the point where it’s easy to confuse the two

wclinton93 ,

Parchment is better for heat, wax paper is better with sticky stuff. My mom uses it to roll cookie dough into cylinders. Then she can refrigerate them and unroll it cleanly to cut into discs so she doesn’t have to form dough balls by hand. If you need a permanently-non-stick, moldable surface, wax paper is pretty good.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Oh cool. That’s a great example of a usecase. Thanks

Stinkywinks ,

I’ve seen those under pizzas, but those look to be a thicker, cardboard type material. I just googled “can you put wax paper in the oven”. My 2 sec google says no. I’ve never had a reason to, but I’m not a professional cook.

BellaDonna ,

As someone who doesn’t cook, now I’m not clear on which you don’t put in the oven, and what kind of paper you are supposed to use.

Stinkywinks ,

Why are people putting paper in the oven?

Agent641 ,

Ran put of plastic

radix ,
@radix@lemm.ee avatar

Prevents the thing you’re cooking from basically getting fused to the metal pan.

Stinkywinks ,

Well they make non stick baking sheets, but I’ll use spray anyways

dvlsg ,
@dvlsg@lemmy.world avatar

Non stick baking sheets are basically just pre cut parchment paper.

Stinkywinks ,

Minus the paper part lol

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

He’s talking about silpats.

wieson ,

Stinkywink is probably talking about the metal sheet (baking tray in AE?) being nonstick.

Eccitaze ,
@Eccitaze@yiffit.net avatar

Works better than non-stick, and keeps the pan clean enough for immediate reuse, which is really nice e.g. if you’re baking multiple batches of cookies for a holiday event

droans ,

Parchment can go in the oven. Wax paper will catch on fire if you try.

I learned it the hard way.

pH3ra , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?
@pH3ra@lemmy.ml avatar

That, given the chance, always choose a smaller company: having a direct contact with the person that pays your salary gives you a better shot in terms of professional growth

ours ,

The downside is that in smaller companies, assholes have a bigger impact on you.

pH3ra ,
@pH3ra@lemmy.ml avatar

Agree, I’ve been lucky (and persistent) enough to end up in an asshole-less workplace.
As they say “job interviews are both sided” and the smaller the company is, the more relevant the person interviewing you is gonna be for that company: that’s a good litmus test for what your potential workplace is going to be. I turned down many offers from people I had the feeling (or proof) they could be assholes.

Mellibird ,

Another downside with smaller companies is there not always room for you to grow or move up.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My situation. I was told unless someone retires there isn’t really a way to go up. The only reason I’m sticking around is because I have gotten decentish raises and benefits like them paying for all my personal gas. That said, 2 of the old timers retired and they just cut those positions. If I don’t get a bug raise or another position come my next year I’m gonna bounce.

Unaware7013 ,

A smaller company means smaller salary and bigger potential to have to fill in the cracks as management decides to not backfill.

I moved from a 10 person map to a hundreds of employees map/hosting provider and doubled my pay for minimal extra work. My team isn't much bigger than my previous team, but I don't have to work nearly as hard being a JOAT vs staying in my lane and passing off stuff that's out of my primary knowledge domain.

pH3ra ,
@pH3ra@lemmy.ml avatar

I had quite the opposite experience: my last job was for a big company (800+ employees) I had a shitton of work with the downside of being extremely repetitive and alienating, just a small cog inside a huge machine.
Now it’s just me and my boss. Of course I’m a JOAT and I have more responsibilities, but that makes the work way less boring and I feel more appreciated for what I do every day. I earn a little more than before and I have the upside of having learned many new skills that make me a more valuable asset on the work market.
I’m aware that not all kinds of job allow you to do this, tho.

xNekoyaki , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?
@xNekoyaki@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. At my last job, I did my best to produce quality work, I got an award for making zero errors in a year, and I was one of the go-to people for new employees to ask for advice. I trained new team members, even while I was still a temp myself. Eventually got told that I was joining the team that dealt with all the escalation emails. I only knew how to work on 2 of the many types of products that went into that folder, but it was mandatory to work every single email that went into that box, 2 hour shift, every email had to be answered by the end of the 2hrs. I also only had a single 30min super quick “training” on how to even answer the emails (really complicated template system, which I still did not understand by the end of it)

I told my manager I wasn’t comfortable working in that box, considering they never trained me to work on most of the other products, but she ignored me and said I’d figure it out. Luckily, I only had to do it once, then they delayed my actual start date for that task, until I got laid off (along with most of the rest of my team) 3 months later. YAAAAAAY. :|

lichtmetzger ,

Sounds like they needed an excuse to get rid of you easily.

xNekoyaki ,
@xNekoyaki@lemmy.world avatar

They got rid of my whole team to get rid of me? Lol, I don’t think so. The job was mortgage related, and the work volume tanked in 2022, after blowing up in 2020. I was just a barely above minimum wage minion, with no team members under me. I honestly think that along with there not being enough work for all of us, they wanted to eliminate WFH teams.

barrbaric , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

We have nothing to lose but our chains.

incogtino , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

Your employer does not care about you. You are not important or irreplaceable

Take your time and energy and put it into your life, not their business

I have had coworkers die (not work related) and by the time you hear about it (like the next day) they have already worked out who will get the work done so the machine doesn’t have to stop

ButtBidet ,
@ButtBidet@hexbear.net avatar

I had a workmate develop a chronic illness after an infection of COVID, and he had to leave under hardship. People that hung out with him as best mates for years stopped talking to him in a matter of days.

Misconduct ,

Did you? 🥺

ButtBidet ,
@ButtBidet@hexbear.net avatar

I sent him a few 3 message to see how he was doing. NGL we weren’t super tight before COVID, we never hung out outside of work, and people not masking around me really drove a wedge between us. I’m trying hard not to justify what happened, but who knows maybe I am a little bit.

Kissaki ,

I don’t think taking action to fill a hole is indicative of not caring.

lorez ,

I’m all for filling holes!

Aceticon ,

Hole filling action, even!

Misconduct ,

True but there’s also absolutely no reason to think they care. Even if someone dies. Because they really don’t. So it feels extra soulless when they send out the email redistributing tasks right after the generic condolences email that goes out to the whole floor

Maalus ,

I mean, how do you gauge how much someone cares? What would make you think someone cared (either at work or anywhere else)? I think all actions by a company would make people think it’s just an unempathetic gesture. Even if it was a small company and the employee was there for very long and was actually missed.

FredericChopin_ ,

This depends. I’ve had easily 100 shit jobs where nobody cared. I’m now a software developer for a small business <10 employees and they do care.

I am aware I am living the dream now and this can’t be the case for most.

hot_milky , to linuxmemes in I use Debian BTW

Isn’t the point of this meme for the low IQ and high IQ people to have the same preference? Any way, I’m on Linux Mint usually -_-

Abrslam , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

Sometimes it’s better if your employer doesn’t know everything you can do. If you’re not careful you’ll end up Inventory Controller/shipper/IT services/reception/Safety officer, and you’ll only ever be paid for whatever your initial position was.

_TheLoneDeveloper_ ,

I wanted to be a system engineer, I got hired as a devops, I started doing a bit of system engineer, called hr and said that I’m working on infrastructure and I need my title changed or else I won’t be able to continue my work, my title was changed, no I do system engineer stuff and less of devops, this was a very rare occasion but it can happen from time to time.

TheDarkKnight ,

Wouldn’t DevOps pay a lot more than Infra in general? Seems to be the more in demand skillset at the moment.

_TheLoneDeveloper_ ,

Well it depends, I had gotten offers double and triple my yearly pay to move to the capital or go outside of my country for a system engineer position. Devops pays more in the US, for around 20-30k MORE per year, but other salaries in the US and other salaries in EU.

Personally I like system engineer/architect jobs more, DevOps is nice but lacks creativity.

judgeholden , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

the quality of your work/how hard you work isn’t as important as the perception of the quality of your work/how hard you work. do the bare minimum, but pretend like you care and be a pleasant person to work with and that’ll take you further than busting your ass working.

moody , to lemmyshitpost in Finding out the hard way

One is covered in heat-resistant silicone, the other is covered in flammable wax.

mpa92643 ,

Silicone isn’t what makes parchment paper heat-resistant (and isn’t even used on most standard parchment papers). Cellulose pulp is treated with sulfuric acid to cross-link the cellulose molecules, making them more chemically and thermally resistant, and the result is parchment paper.

Stuka ,

Neat

DarthBueller , (edited )

I would prefer you to be correct, because I am reading other comments that say some parchment paper is teflon coated. PFA pollution arising from PTFE production for pots and pans is bad enough, but to use Teflon on a consumable item should be an obvious “ban the fuck out of it already” action item. I mean, all PTFE production should be banned based on what we’re learning about PFAs, but for fucks sake, disposable items? EDIT: google says the vast majority of parchement paper is silicone coated, not teflon coated like one German asserts in another comment in here.

Aux ,

Teflon is not silicone.

DarthBueller ,

Yes. I know. I am rereading my comment trying to figure out how you and your upvoters think I have the two confused, and I am coming up empty.

Vespair ,

Because the only comment that mentioned Teflon wasn’t a part of this comment chain, so your response feels like a total non-sequitur in the context of this particular comment chain. I assume you were responding not just to the original comment in this chain, but also to the other unrelated comment about German baking paper being Teflon-coated (which was incorrect), but without anything directly connecting the two comments it just seems like you went off of an unrelated tangent.

DarthBueller ,

Well, it just so happens that I’m Darth Total Non-Sequitur Bueller, so point taken.

Vespair ,

I love a self-aware king. Cheers and good vibes to ya ✌️

visak ,

WTF. I never knew this. All this time I thought I was being responsible using parchment paper. I did not know it was silicone coated damnit. Need to look for other options now.

beckie_lane , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

HR is there to cover the company ass and not to help you.

Durotar , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?
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My company laid off a few very efficient workers, who sacrificed a lot of time and mental health for the company, because people working remotely in India are cheaper.

NimbleSloth ,

Sounds like a company I worked for. I saw the writing on the wall and got out. A lot of good people were laid off and a second office in India was opened…

Comment105 , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

I believe the exact same thing is true.

I have yet to see an employer even attempt to prove it wrong.

Showing up and working sluggishly is the most stable pattern. Getting it done quick and then relaxing only attracts attention and criticism, and as mentioned: More work for no increase in pay.

superduperenigma ,

Getting it done quick and then relaxing only attracts attention and criticism, and as mentioned

The trick is getting your task done quickly and then pretend to still be working on it while actually doing nothing.

ChilliDownMySpine ,

I disagree. There’s nothing worse than having to pretend to work. I’m more drained after a day of scrolling than I am after a day of stressful 100%-work. The best imo is around 70%-work.

_number8_ ,

i think it’s the mental stress of knowing this time could be spent on something meaningful but instead because of horseshit protestant work ethic - brained boomers it must be wasted

kind of like those sick sick stores that destroy merchandise before throwing it away because god fucking forbid someone else could use it. spitting in the face of humanity.

SnowBunting ,

Agree. How many hours humanity could use elsewhere. Being creative, exercising and having fun.

Mog_fanatic ,

Behold and bask in the glory of working from home! Here, all your free time can actually be spent free! No more alt-tabbing to a random Excel spread sheet or dumbass email everytime the floor boards outside your crap ass cubicle squeak. No more desperately searching for mildly enjoyable activities that are only slightly conspicuous when viewed from over your shoulder. Revel in a world where if you bust ass and finish what you need to you are actually rewarded with the free time to cuddle your dog, take a nap, binge stardew valley, or just do absolutely nothing.

The fact that it is for this exact reason working from home is hated by old farts is so unbelievably frustrating it’s difficult to put in words. I know they like to word it differently like “lack of productivity” or “lowered team dynamic” (which have both since been repeatedly disproven by what little research we have) or some crap but we all know they just can’t stand not knowing exactly what we’re doing at all times. It honestly feels like they’re just irritated that workers are genuinely happy for once.

demlet ,

I can touch type at about 70 wpm. Why? Typing practice looks remarkably productive to anyone who doesn’t know what I’m actually doing. I also find doing math puzzles helpful. Making little calculations and drawing diagrams looks super impressive to clueless managers. Of course, such strategies depend on apathetic managers.

Dagwood222 ,

Learn from George Costanza.

Carry a clipboard and look angry all the time.

Stoneykins , to lemmyshitpost in Finding out the hard way

Also each of them resists different type of foods better. Wax paper will hold up to wet food, and parchment paper holds up better to oily food.

This is not anything I can prove just personal experience so take it with a grain of salt

Goldmage263 ,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

And let’s not forget about butcher’s paper. Also totally different application but still no oven.

Alteon ,

You can use it for lower temperatures. (< 300°F). You can realistically go up to 400°s but I think it starts to do odd things when above 300°F (it’s been awhile since Ive used it so take that with a grain of salt).

It’s used in a lot of smoking/roasting applications to keep the moisture in. Just don’t let it touch the element and you should be fine.

grue ,

It’s used in a lot of smoking/roasting applications to keep the moisture in. Just don’t let it touch the element and you should be fine.

What is this, “el-em-ent?” I don’t understand. Are you talking about the hot coals?

(On a related note, Hank Hill was wrong.)

Alteon ,

Lol, yeah, essentially coals. An element (or coil) is what’s used to heat a standard convection oven or toaster.

MNByChoice ,

To add, this is for electric heat. Not gas.

Goldmage263 ,
@Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ty! I didn’t know it was safe for a smoker.

Alteon ,

No problem. Yeah, if your doing something like brisket, you can smoke it for the first half to get a good bark on it. And then wrap it in butcher paper to trap the moisture in for the second half. It’s to help prevent stalling.

It’s also known as the Texas Crutch.

eestileib ,

I recently got “food wrapping paper” for bundling up sandwiches, it is still coated but has just enough stickiness left for tape to hold it shut.

Previously I was using parchment paper and if you wanted to hold it shut you needed to use a rubber band or run the tape all the way around to stick back to itself.

IamSparticles ,

Which one holds up better to a grain of salt? Should I use aluminum foil for that?

PersnickityPenguin ,

No, calcium chloride actually corrodes aluminum.

chalupapocalypse , to asklemmy in What is the biggest lesson that employment has taught you?

Companies don’t give a fuck about you anymore

WexMajor ,

This sentence is one word too long.

chalupapocalypse ,

I dunno, people used to stay at one company their whole life, get a pension, good insurance, regular raises…

WexMajor ,

Yeah you’re definitely right, just not a concept I will ever be familliar with.

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