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festus , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund

I’ll buy Windows games at full price only if the developer has made efforts to better support Linux users (say by fixing a bug that only affects Linux users).

mojo , to mildlyinfuriating in This appears every time I try to disable mobile data (Android 13)

Not an Android thing, but regardless it’s better to turn on Airplane mode to shut off everything and then to turn on wi-fi.

SuperSpruce OP ,

Wow, that works with no annoying pop-up! I’ll do this any time I don’t need internet to save battery or avoid ads

mojo ,

Yeah it shuts off all of the radios in your phone. Except wifi when you go to enable it

MonkderZweite , to memes in Ghostbusters

The one legitimate use for imsi-catchers.

lemann , to mildlyinfuriating in This appears every time I try to disable mobile data (Android 13)

Anyone on Android 13 (near stock) who can confirm whether this is a vendor-specific thing?

This would become really annoying very quickly IMO

DeltaTangoLima ,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

I’m on Android 13, on a Pixel 7 Pro, and I haven’t seen this at all. I still have the combined internet toggle, for mobile data and wifi.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

SUSaiyan ,

On LineageOS 20 (android 13) I have the option of both the combined and the separate toggles, maybe you can configure it on your Pixel too?

DeltaTangoLima ,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

I did go looking when I first got the phone (was a Samsung user for ~10 years before this) but I couldn’t find anything immediately obvious.

Honestly, I’m not as annoyed by it as I was when I first got the phone. I have Tasker managing my connectivity 99% of the time, so I rarely have to use this toggle.

SUSaiyan ,

I am on LineageOS 20 on a Fairphone 4 and just checked. It does indeed show this popup.

lemann ,

Thanks for checking - I’m on an FP3/Android 10 at the moment and eyeing moving to LineageOS because of the whole google fingerprint sensor downgrade issue.

Since you’re on Lineage already, any major/minor complaints about the experience in LOS 20?

I’m kinda curious as to whether apps like Nebula will work… currently OK on my rooted device with no magisk hiding necessary, but on LOS i’m not sure if proprietary google bits like widevine will be missing etc.

SUSaiyan ,

I only got my FP4 a couple of weeks back and have not had time to play around with it that much, I had an LG G6 before that and it decided to break so I needed something quickly.

My biggest issue is that it seems that the FP4 camera is not supported that well in LOS. The best I seem to get is OpenCamera, where I can take 4000x3000 12MP photos, everything else seems to only take lower resolution pictures. The phone is supposed to have a 48MP camera. From what I’ve read though it seems the original software is a bit hacked together to acutally get 48MP out of the sensor… I have to admin I cannot compare to the original software, as the first thing I did when I got the phone was unlock the bootloader and install LOS.

As for the google bits, I tried very shortly without it, but quickly noticed google services are needed for many things so I just installed them by installing MindTheGapps. I haven’t tried Netflix or Nebula though, so I don’t know if widevine is working, and I do not have root.

Anti_Weeb_Penguin ,

I’m using LegionOS and this popup only appears one time.

gamey , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

Wine and DXVK made it increadably easy to support Linux and if a company doesn’t even put in that much effort or intentionally breaks the game for you it’s certainly not worth your money! I pirate rather than use the refund window but the principal is the same since I do buy good games after all.

MonkderZweite ,

Cries in pipeline hacks for DirectX. Didn’t Space Engineers do this?

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

I am not really sure what you mean with that tbh

Sethayy ,

Probably space engineers more abuses the direct pipeline than uses it, in ways that translation layers wouldn’t be able to emulate the quirks.

Their goal is to be compliant not equivalent

gamey ,
@gamey@feddit.rocks avatar

True, it can’t add new ones ether because it’s a extra layer and not part of the actual game!

Sethayy ,

NGL it would be cool as hell if they did just for linux wine devs

MonkderZweite ,

Exactly. And some do other dirty hacks in DirectX.

Vitaly , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund
@Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

everything is changing

MonkderZweite ,

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  • blkpws ,

    And we stopped to use horses to go to places, things changes.

    bitwolf , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund

    In my experience, the effort to fix Linux issues serve as a good litmus test as to how well supported the game is in general.

    At least with games that aren’t from big studios.

    Clbull , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund

    Gaming on Linux has evolved by leaps and bounds. We’re now at the point where only a select few Windows games (usually due to the anti cheat) won’t run.

    qyron , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund

    As a GOG customer, I’ll take anything they are giving away, even if I can’t run it.

    I can always install it in someone’s computer for them to enjoy.

    WhyIDie , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund

    me, who doesn’t care who’s to blame, wishing the issue was fixed by anyone

    s_s , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund

    Linux compatibility or I send it back!

    newIdentity , (edited ) to mildlyinfuriating in This appears every time I try to disable mobile data (Android 13)

    Not an android thing. It’s a vendor thing. Stop blaming Google for things it doesn’t do. There are enough other points to critizise about them

    SuperSpruce OP ,

    I didn’t get this pop-up before I upgraded to Android 13, and I have a Motorola phone that runs close to stock Android. So that’s why I thought this was a Google thing.

    yoz ,
    floppydisk ,
    @floppydisk@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Except it is, because it happens on my Google Pixel too

    newIdentity ,

    I don’t. Which device?

    beef_curds , to linux in It either runs on Linux or refund
    @beef_curds@hexbear.net avatar

    Honestly, the 2 hour refund window is the perfect length to see how bad the Linux compatibility is. A half hour to try a few tweaks, if I care enough to. Another hour to see if there are subtle bugs or intermittant crashes.

    I definitely have tried to run a few games I wouldn’t have bothered with otherwise.

    TheCaconym ,

    The infinite refund window offered by piracy also works, mind you

    Also sometimes due to DRM/launcher shit the pirate version actually works much easier on wine/proton. I’ve downloaded cracked versions of games I actually bought in the past due to this

    beef_curds ,
    @beef_curds@hexbear.net avatar

    I’ve fallen so far out of the loop with games piracy.

    I gather that there are repacks now for Linux? Or do you dl the windows version then just run it through proton?

    TheCaconym ,

    The latter - downloading the windows cracked version and yeah, wine or proton. It works beautifully.

    That’s when there is no native linux version obviously; these days you can also find pirate versions of those when they exist (most notably on rutracker).

    I think there is one person putting out repacks especially made for Linux mind you (can’t remember their name though found it, it’s johncena141), including specific wine versions and so on in the repack, though I’ve never used them

    CorrodedCranium ,
    @CorrodedCranium@leminal.space avatar

    Hopefully they become a little more well known. I am apprehensive of downloading from any repacker that isn’t on the Piracy Megathread or FMHY wiki.

    Uluganda OP ,

    I hate to admit I had to do it with Nioh Complete Edition. I dont know but my store downloaded copy just refused to load. When it did, it had 15fps for a while and then crashed. Meanwhile, when I played the pirated version, it worked good. It stuttered for the first 20 minutes, but once all the caches were built it worked amazingly. Bummer I cant use the online feature.

    jdaxe ,

    I had this with the Sims, I bought and paid for the game legit but trying to run it through steam it kept trying to load the origin store for auth or something which was a pain in the ass and I couldn’t get it to run reliably.

    I ended up using a crack just because it ran without any BS!

    CaptDust , (edited )

    Refund window is great until the devs decide to change up their anticheat to something less compatible later (fall guys, rocket league, nearly happened to battlebit) or there is instability that only appears late in the game you can’t find in 2 hours (Jedi fallen order, Horizon zero dawn) or the publisher decides to update their stupid launcher and break compatibility that way (EA comes to mind)

    Even if something works today, with how modern game devs operate it’s certainly not guaranteed to work tomorrow, and that’s a problem.

    JuxtaposedJaguar ,

    Customers have more power than companies would like you to believe. Politely explain the situation to customer support, and ask for a refund. If they refuse, mention that you purchased a game that was promised to work for at least several months, and you haven’t received the product you paid for. Because of that, you’re considering charging back through your bank. If that doesn’t work, say you’ll charge back if they don’t refund. If that doesn’t work, actually charge back through your bank. Banks are surprisingly cool about it as long as you don’t do it too often. Of course, you need to buy the game directly (no account balance) from a credit card.

    Just don’t be a jerk to the support person, because it’s almost certainly not their fault. It’s also less likely to get you what you want. They’d rather give you what you want so you go away, and you just need to give them reasons that they can relay to their supervisor if necessary.

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    Moonrise2473 , to mildlyinfuriating in This appears every time I try to disable mobile data (Android 13)

    Not Google, this has been added by the manufacturer of your phone. Probably they got too many complaints like “I disabled data and now there’s no internet” because average users don’t read what’s on screen

    TheFogan ,

    or more accurately users just have no grasp of what things come from. No shortage of times in tech support where I’ve heard things like “Yes I know the internet is down, I’m not trying to go to the internet I’m trying to go to facebook”.

    DeltaTangoLima ,
    @DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

    I feel your pain - “Daaaaad! My internet’s on but I can’t get to YouTube” - but I feel this one’s a little less obvious than that. It’s not always apparent whether a given feature is stock OS or vendor specific.

    FooBarrington ,

    My guy, it’s part of Stock Android.

    Moonrise2473 ,

    I’m not able to reproduce this in my pixel 5, maybe Google removed this as a pixel exclusive feature? Or maybe because I used that adb command to separate the “internet” button in two buttons (WiFi and data)

    FooBarrington ,

    Very much possible that Google changed it, since the buttons appear to be combined on Pixel devices. LineageOS and multiple other vendors definitely have it.

    roembol ,

    I’m running Lineage and I have never seem it

    FooBarrington ,

    That’s very strange considering other Lineage users in this thread have seen it.

    roembol ,

    Yes. I am still using Android 12 though, maybe that has something to do with it.

    FooBarrington ,

    Yes, the thing occurring on Android 13 will not occur if you’re not on Android 13.

    roembol ,

    Right, didn’t notice that. So it is new in android 13

    Spliffman1 ,
    @Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah cause I’m on Android 13 and I don’t get that warning

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