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Imgonnatrythis , to memes in If the USA saw what the USA is doing in the USA...

Canada really should step in. Shouldnt be allowing this behavior so close to their border.

dubyakay ,

Annex the USA you say?

Reverse-Fallout-plot.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

It will always be hilarious that Emil decided to “reveal” that Nate was one of the fascist troops on the ground executing unarmed Canadian rebels we see in Fallout 1’s opening scene

GoodStuffEh ,

Not just one of the troops, he was the one laughing his ass off lol

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

(SARCASTIC)

“Woulda been easier if he just handed over the maple syrup, amirite Jim?” laugh track

Alsephina ,

I want to live in the Canada-annexes-US timeline

REEEEvolution ,

Not that Klanada is better.

exanime ,

After 20 years in Canada I can tell you the shit I dislike the most was imported from the USA… The shit I like the most came from Europe

linux4ever07 OP , (edited ) to linux in A Bash script to rip music off CUE/BIN files

I just checked the macOS / FreeBSD man page for ‘stat’, and noticed the syntax differs from the version in GNU coreutils (which is what’s used in Linux). That’s probably the only thing that would need to be changed to make the script work on those other systems. It’s on line 526.

possiblylinux127 ,

Well pretty much no one is using BSD

linux4ever07 OP ,

Fair enough. But macOS has more users than Linux, and is partly based on FreeBSD. The shell and the userland tools are from FreeBSD. I prefer Linux of course and haven’t used a Mac in years, but I still think it’s nice making scripts compatible with all *nix systems.

possiblylinux127 ,

Fair enough, I just don’t pester the developer if you can avoid it. (Foss devs often receive demands)

linux4ever07 OP ,

For sure. If you get something for free then it is what it is. Some of my scripts probably won’t work outside of Linux but I still make an effort to not use external commands if there’s no need to. I try to use the internal features of Bash as much as possible, mostly cause it’s just faster that way. A consequence of that is that the scripts are at least more likely to work on other systems (that have Bash).

exanime , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?

I’ve been using it for my daily driver for work and casual gaming with no issues for 4 months now (Garuda Linux)

HootinNHollerin , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for

Software engineers get paid more than any other engineering discipline so that part is wrong AF but yea the rest is valid

Potatos_are_not_friends , (edited )

The post literally above this one is about a manufacturing job with shit hours and pay and I work a 8-4 (sometimes longer) but im paid abnormally high (we start new devs at 70k and average dev is six figures).

But the other stuff like free time can absolutely suffer as even at the senior level, I’m taking so many courses and outside education to stay relevant.

HootinNHollerin ,

Software also gets a plethora of remote work. I have zero sympathy as a mechanical and manufacturing engineer.

chiliedogg ,

I work almost 100% on a computer for a municipality using software that’s already 100% web-based.

But I have to drive 90+ minutes each way every day because a citizen might want to have an in-person meeting once every few weeks instead of an email or Teams meeting.

HootinNHollerin ,

You’re an outlier for sure

chiliedogg ,

Oh, I’m not a programmer. I’m just bitching about how many of us have to go to an office for no reason.

HootinNHollerin ,

Ah my bad

Buttons , (edited )
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Programmer pay is so bizarre, it makes me cynical about our entire economy.

If I’m a blue-collar worker maintaining the wires between banks, I get paid little. If I’m a programmer maintaining the banking software that controls everyone’s money and is essential to the entire nation, I’m paid a little more, but not as much as some programmers.

If I’m a young man who creates a webpage that barely works venture capitalists are tripping over themselves trying to shove millions of dollars into my hands.

(Although, creating a webpage was the hot thing last decade, now the hot thing is creating an AI.)

force , (edited )

A lot of the time it’s about being lucky enough be able to have or form connections with rich stupid people. Those kinds are a lot more willing to throw insane amounts of money at someone/some company they vaguely know to do things they know nothing of but hear a lot about.

Or just working at a company that’s well-known in the area and deals with clients very intimately while the product is being created.

Sometimes charging more for the same service makes them want it more, to them it means it’s premium programming (as opposed to the off-brand wish dot com programming). But sometimes they demand disgracefully cheap yet world-class service and throw a tantrum when they can’t pay you $5 an hour for a full rebranded recreation of the Amazon web service.

AngryCommieKender , (edited )

You missed the banks tripping over themselves to find a COBOL programmer. My father makes stupid amounts of money (read, $400-$1600 per hour) maintaining bank COBOL systems. My father is in his 70s.

COBOL is almost as much of a PITA as Lisp, but no one, not even the US Military that developed Lisp will pay the really big bucks to maintain it.

AnarchistArtificer ,

I think people like your father make bank because even though new programmers could learn COBOL, that wouldn’t be enough for them to be able to fulfill the same niche your father and other established COBOL programmers occupy; any programming language has a disparity between “the proper way to do things”, and the kind of kludges you see in the field, but few have the kind of baggage that COBOL does, in terms of how long it’s been around and having things built on top of it.

AngryCommieKender ,

That’s probably true. My father has been developing in COBOL since the '70s. I didn’t bother learning it because I was under the impression that he was being paid more for experience than his basic skills.

brian ,

not sure what you’re talking about with lisp lol, the military may have some dialect they wrote but lisp started as an academic language and there’s plenty of still supported and used dialects outside of that

AngryCommieKender ,

There may be, but as far as I can tell, they won’t pay what the people that still need COBOL are willing to pay

fidodo ,

It’s pretty simple isn’t it? If you want to be paid a lot of money, learn how to do what other people can’t or won’t. In the software industry those opportunities are all over the place. You just need to find it and take it.

phoneymouse ,

Dude, should I learn COBOL?

AngryCommieKender ,

I’d recommend against it. Seems to cause my father no end of headaches

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

buddy there are a lot more reasons to be more than cynical about the economy, take a good look at things and you’ll probably want to bring out the pitchforks.

masterspace ,

Yeah man, me too.

I went to school for electrical engineering, my first job was at an architecture firm designing the electrical stuff for buildings (including making all the electrical drawings for bank branches so we had some professional crossover 😋), and I ended up teaching myself software to automate a bunch of our designs and processes. I was literally directly making building design and construction more efficient … Buuuut… The arch industry pays poorly and I realized they was no way of ever owning a house at the pace I was going so I left for software and doubled my salary in like 2 years. I went from senior electrical engineer to intermediate software engineer and saw a 50% increase… All in a country experiencing a massive potentially existential housing crisis, and the industry pay disparity directly incentivized me to stop working on it and go work doing mostly bullshit software work.

The software industry is grossly overpaid for how hard we work and for how critical our relative contributions are to society, though even in the software industry the pay is incredibly distorted. Orders of magnitude more money goes to random social media bullshit and VC startups that go nowhere than to mission critical teams doing stuff like maintaining security and access control software.

SparrowRanjitScaur ,

I think it really just comes down to scale. Relative to other professions there aren’t that many software engineers, but the work produced by each one has the potential to reach an extremely wide user base. Someone working at Google could write code that gets deployed on a billion devices. This is pretty clear when comparing between different software engineering roles as well. Companies that serve a global market pay significantly better than local companies.

On top of that, there’s no supplies or logistics required for software engineering. It just takes one person and a computer, so expenses are minimal compared to other engineering disciplines.

fidodo ,

I think it makes perfect sense. Those people are building something from scratch. That’s a lot more responsibility and skill needed than to maintain a tiny part of a huge well established system. The people capable of doing an A+ job at building something totally new are very few and far between and the competition to hire them is fierce. The best way to move up in this industry is to build up your skill and jump ship to a new job as soon as your skill has outpaced your salary.

Lobreeze , to linux in Are we Wayland yet or Whats missing?

I can’t run xscreensaver in wayland :(

UFODivebomb ,

The real problem right here

nexussapphire ,

Write a script that launches a video of flying toaster screensaver before it locks.

Djtecha , to programmerhumor in Asking the important questions

As an infra guy… What’s backend in this context?

JPAKx4 ,

Backend code, basically what is ran on the server and manages user requests, database interactions, etc… Frontend is the user end, so managing input, displaying information from server requests, etc. and is in the form of an app or website page.

JasonDJ ,

As a network guy…open up your favorite web-managed application and open the developer console. Inspect the transactions you see and compare it to the applications REST API reference, and you’ll likely find a lot of commonality (and maybe some undocumented endpoints!).

Backend made the API and everything that is performed by it. Front end is doing the GUI based off the response and promoting for input.

uis ,

Hah. I get it. Good one.

TootSweet , to linuxmemes in Billy G, you cant stop me. 2024, We are so back.

Can we not with the AI-generated images?

sharkfucker420 , to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Ive always thought thsoe graphs were bullshit, im a college student and I have no time, energy, or money. I feel like this will not change drastically as i age lmao

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Depends on Major, I have more time as a Worker than I did in College. More energy, too.

sharkfucker420 ,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Im a physics major so it is likely my own doing

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/375e8a62-cdad-4f7e-bab3-4ce0cd45a093.png

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Keep at it! Physics is cool as hell!

itslilith ,
@itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I read your first comment and thought “I wonder if they’re studying physics too, this sounds way too relatable”. lo and behold

hang in there!

o_d , to programmerhumor in Asking the important questions
@o_d@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Not me!

Mickmacduffin , to memes in If the USA saw what the USA is doing in the USA...
@Mickmacduffin@hexbear.net avatar

Good for the USA helping the USA like that

Fixbeat ,

We’re bringing “freedom” to ourselves like we’ve done to so many other countries.

xmanmonk , to linux in A Bash script to rip music off CUE/BIN files

Looks good! Thanks for sharing!

linux4ever07 OP ,

Thank you! I’m happy if more people besides just myself have use for it. It’s a niche some people might not be aware of. Especially for younger people who aren’t familiar with the CD format, and how music is stored in those games. It might help people get more direct access to the OST of their favorite retro games. Instead of having to search around the web for high quality audio, they can just extract it themselves.

1984 , to memes in If the USA saw what the USA is doing in the USA...
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

True but without the US, western Europe would belong to Russia or China… That arguably a lot worse.

It’s the lesser of all evils.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

Why would China “own” Western Europe. This sounds like a very vibes based analysis

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

The vibes: pit

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

username checks out. The US is not the lesser evil. Its the greatest evil in the world. If Satan were at war with the US, i would support Satan because the US is the Greater Satan. amerikkka

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Disagree on that they are the most evil, but yes they are also evil. China, Russia, US… They are all evil. But the US seems like the lesser evil to me.

brain_in_a_box ,

But the US seems like the lesser evil to me.

Of course it does, because the USA is white, and you’re a racist.

KrasMazov ,
@KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Fucking hell. This isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact that the US is the enemy of the world. The US funds coups, destabilize, install military dictatorships, invades and bombs countries and it’s the only country in the world to drop a nuclear bomb on people, and THEY DID IT TWICE.

Stop making “wHaT iFs” in your head and actually look at the reality of what China does. It’s not even comparable.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

You are not wrong. I agree they do all these things. And I don’t know what China does. I live outside of a China naturally, and I don’t know anything about what’s going on inside. We hear scary stories of course, and the leader of the country seems insane by western standards at least. I don’t think China cares about human rights very much. And I would not be surprised if people gets killed and made to disappear if they are inconvenient.

But honestly, I don’t know anything. I’m not there. I haven’t seen with my own eyes anything.

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

I don’t know what China does

Admitting that is good. If all you’ve heard about China is the kind of propaganda you hear in the West, then you’re going to have a distorted view and think the kind of things you do. But that’s not an informed opinion, that’s just repeating the anti-China messaging from Western countries.

KrasMazov ,
@KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml avatar

That’s the thing, you identified an issue, we constantly hear bad and scary stuff about China all the time, that’s western propaganda trying to turn China into the enemy so whatever the west, mainly the US, wants to do, becomes justifiable.

You don’t need to live there to know, at least partiatly, the reality of what goes on in the country nor it’s international relations. I’m not from the US, but I do know all those things I just cited in my last comment. All you need are good sources. You can start by studying how China handles its international relations. You’ll quickly realize that China doesn’t threat, embargo or invade other countries.

If you are genuinely interested you can learn a lot by visiting Lemmygrad and Hexbear, there are communities there to ask for information, and as long as you’re wanting to learn, you will be welcomed.

Also, Xi Jinping is not insane at all like the media likes to portray him. The statement is too broad for me to tackle any specific thing, tho.

I don’t think China cares about human rights very much. And I would not be surprised if people gets killed and made to disappear if they are inconvenient.

Again, very broad statement, what human rights and what you mean by this? This probably comes from more propaganda led disinformation.

Also, China is a massive country with 1.4 billion people. Do you really think we wouldn’t have proof of people being repressed, killed and disappearing? The people there aren’t isolated from the internet, they can access beyond the restrictions easily with VPNs which are common, it would be easy to show this stuff to the rest of the world.

Protests happen all the time in China and people critique the government, just like basically any other country.

If you want the perspective of a foreigner living there, I recommend the youtube channel Felipe Durante, he speaks Portuguese but the auto translate on youtube should be good enough, at least for english.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Thanks for the long post. I realize there is a lot of propaganda to try and decipher. We live in a world of public appearances and PR. :)

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

I’m the lesser evil! pit

just get in the pit barbara-pit

somename ,

How many countries has China invaded?

CluelessLemmyng ,

Do you want current regime or it’s history? Because… Lol if you think that number is 0 for either.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

I would like to hear your true facts about the current regime

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

[this space reserved for unfalsifiable anti communist orthodoxy]

davel ,
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ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

Please, do tell. Current government. If you say Tibet I will die of laughter and then link you a very well-sourced and easy to read academic paper.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

Would you mind linking that paper so that i can read it?

ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

Happy to, it’s a banger if you’re not familiar

redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This will probably devolve into the usual tropes. It’s dangerous to go alone! Take this.

TwinTusks ,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

How can China be of its current size without invading anyone? When it started, it was just a small patch in central Henan area.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This pedantry is ridiculous, wrong, and annoying. The Han ethnic group that was in a relatively small patch of land ~4,000 years ago is hardly the same thing as the contemporary Westphalian sovereign state known as People’s Republic of China, which formed less than a hundred years ago and comprises many ethnicities.

TwinTusks ,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

The people of China would not agree with your assertion that China is less than one hundred years old.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I think they would find your pedantry annoying as well.

TwinTusks ,
@TwinTusks@bitforged.space avatar

I’m okay with that.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

They would if they could. Imagine China having a powerful air force like the US have. They would dominate every country in the world just like the US is doing. The US puts almost all their money into high tech weaponry as well.

The US is going after the middle east to get oil and to establish military bases for future domination. Has nothing to do with liberation or democracy.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

“imagine if China invaded the whole world. China doesn’t sound so good now, does it?”

Brilliant

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Do you have any actual arguments? So far you are not really contributing to the discussion at all.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

Argument: your US chauvinism is unjustified and you should probably justify it. Otherwise, you’re wasting everyone’s time with an undeserved smug attitude

brain_in_a_box ,

“China isn’t as evil as the US, but if it was as evil as the US, it would be worse than the US, therefor China is worse than the US”

Least absurd white supremacist argument.

davel ,
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ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

Sure I work all my life to pay rent and the cops can murder me at any time for no reason and get away with it, but have you considered China worse somehow?

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah China seems worse to me.

brain_in_a_box ,

Of course it does; you’re a racist.

Flyberius ,
@Flyberius@hexbear.net avatar

You should go there. It would change your mind in an instant.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I would just be a tourist. I would of course like the people. People all over the world are quite nice. It’s the governments that are not…

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

China has a democratic government with far more oversight and participation from their citizens than the US

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

Based on what? Your hypothetical yellow peril bullshit where they would be worse if they could

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

👆 how to say you’re a racist without saying you’re a racist

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

What part of shining city on a hill do no not get, Canuck?

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
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1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

I’m a racist because I don’t want China to control the western world the way the US is controlling it? :)

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

Thinking the US controlling things is good actually is fuckin cringe lol

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

What’s cringe is your comments here… You just contribute nothing to the discussion.

Why isn’t it good that the US is controlling things? And why do you think it’s better if China would?

That’s how you have a real discussion.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

I don’t owe you a discussion

I’m not some debate pervert

Make your discussion worth my time

brain_in_a_box ,

You’re racist because you think white westerners brutally dominating the world is a “lesser evil”

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Skin color is completely irrelevant. Now I think you are just wasting my time and trolling. :) I’ve been called a racist like 3 times now. Is that what you guys do, just play the racist card in every discussion? Certainly seems like it so far.

brain_in_a_box ,

“Why is everyone calling me a racist, just because I said a bunch of racist things! They’re just playing the race card!”

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Lol ok. :)

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

You should read what wrote again. It’s impossible to not see how racist it is, unless you’re a rascist.

REEEEvolution ,

Assuming China wants to control the western world or any world at all shows how you have no idea what you’re talking about.

It might suprise you, but not everyone is the USA.

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

yes

REEEEvolution ,

Nah it would be better.

Of course you are operating under the childish assumption that either of them would act like the USA, which is nonsense. Neither ever did so in their history. Russia was always happy to stay to itself and be secure, that meant you had a great neighbour and trade partner if you did not fuck with it. China could have conquered most of its neighbours multiple times it its history, but rarely ventured out of what are now the chinese borders, historically extremely defensive and trade oriented.

meanwhile the USA has been at peace for less than 15 years during its entire history. Of all those wars, almost all were ones of aggression.

You compare two sane people to a frothing berserker yelling “MAIM! KILL! BURN! LOOT!” ad infinitum.

GregorGizeh , to memes in The Adversary

Big vuvuzela iphone energy

force , (edited ) to programmerhumor in what u actually signed up for

old

money 100

doubt

iAvicenna ,
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I invite op to Turkey

dylanTheDeveloper , to programmer_humor in "I want to live forever in AI"
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Intellisense commands you to fix your method

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