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scthatheworm , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

Ummm I gave up on Linux desktop being a mainstream thing about… 6 years ago. But Linux as a desktop needs to exist anyway, there’s enough usage.

itadakimasu ,
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Because I primarily use a laptop, Linux desktop is a no no for me. I spent years trying to get my trackpad to behave as beautifully as it does with MacOS and could never get it.

That alone is enough to drive me off Linux Desktop … For now.

I’m rooting for it though

scthatheworm ,

I gave up after my third gig where I could use Linux to work… but had to be my own it support, and make all the corporate tooling work on top of it. This job am now using the provided macbook… I do hate the weird non-Linux gawk, sed, curl, etc, and brew is very underwhelming, but I stopped having to spend days making random corporate spyware work because compliance, and then have to recover lost time in actual work.

This was a rant-y way of saying I agree xD

tourist , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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Weird the percent symbol in the post headline didn’t show up until I tapped the upvote button.

erre ,
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Extra content in exchange for an upvote 🤔

DasherPack , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%

I tend to not believe these numbers: Do you really think 1 in every 33 people you know use Linux? I think this number is wishful thinking.

stergro ,

One in 33 is like one nerd in every school class, sounds plausible to me.

vvvvv , to fediverse in Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook

I don’t know. I would like to subscribe to someone on Threads from Mastodon (since both are Twitter alternatives), if they don’t have Mastodon account (which let’s be honest they probably don’t). Zuck does not get any of my data (besides what’s available publicly anyway). If Threads decides to go full EEE, I’ll stop getting updates from people on Threads, same as I don’t get updates from people on IG right now. I think proliferation of ActivityPub protocol would be the greatest advantage.

Moreover, I think we should follow the email architecture - I might use i.e. Proton Mail, but it does not prevent me from sending emails to Gmail, which I think is a bad provider, who collects a lot of user data. In fact if Proton Mail forbade sending email to Gmail I would be really displeased about that.

The goal is to allow people to choose where they want to go and ActivityPub is what can help with that, unlike blocking Threads.

the_green_bastard ,

I couldn’t agree more. Racing to block Threads when it’s completely unclear if Threads will even actually ever federate and what the implications of them federating will even be seems incredibly short sighted. Imagine how much innovation would have been lost on the internet if web server admins raced to block Google Chrome from accessing their content because they have some personal beef with Google.

Cyberflunk ,

As I understand it, and I probably don’t, you can subscribe, you just won’t see anything from threads except what’s re-shared, or you’ve subscribed to.

You may see things from other instances your instance has federated with.

Little8Lost ,

i ONLY want to conter your argument with email and activityhub: on email people choose to send stuff to a very limited amount of people except maybe newsletter and scammers. with threads, which should have already multiple times of osers compared to the fediverse, will flood the content to /all. Of course there are cool people but i think the entire fediverse culture will be blown away by threads in an instand. And with their weird moderation (especcially small) servers here will have large problems trying to moderate it

but by email there is no mass broadcasting to the public so it does not need to be moderated

vvvvv ,

Email is not only 1:(small N). Maillists do exist and and are used to facilitate discussions between a large amount of people via email. They are also often public so anonymous readers and search indexers can use them.

/all is certainly an interesting thing - default Active sorting calculates a rank based on the score and time of the latest comment, with decay over time. If Threads are connected they would dominate /all. But there can certainly be adjustments, we can create a new sorting style, and make it default. For example:

  • Posts are deprioritized based on MAU or some similar metric. The larger the MAU, the lower the post is ranked assuming the same engagement. If the post got 100 upvotes on an instance with 1000 users, it’s probably a much more interesting post, than the post that got 100 upvotes on an instance with 100 000 000 users.
  • Posts are (de)prioritized based on instance source. For example setting Threads to -1000 would effectively remove it, setting Threads to -50 would allow you to see only super active posts. On the other hand if we want to see more content from less populated instance we might set it (i.e. german lemmy feddit.de) to the score of 100.
  • Instances can provide a limited number or percentage of /all - i.e. after we got 10 posts from Threads, stop getting posts from this instance.
Little8Lost ,

i did not know about the weights. That is very interesting, good written and i would say that you topped my argument. Thank you ^^

sedawk , to programmerhumor in I also had to post one of these
@sedawk@sh.itjust.works avatar

It could have just said: c++ programming for masochists.

einsteinx2 ,
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It could have just said: c++ programming

LeHappStick , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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2023 year of Linux HERE WE GO!

victron ,
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Og, this is it, finally! Let’s teach those windows goons a lesson!

/s

Ziggyred , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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I expected the Linux desktop market share to be a bit higher since Windows 11 can’t run on low spec hardware (and it’s trash).

CataclysmZA ,
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That will see more increases over time, especially as Windows 10 EOL approaches.

buckykat ,

I predict that so many people will run 10 past EOL that Microsoft will be forced to extend it like they did for XP and 7.

CataclysmZA ,
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Oh it’s going to be bad. Really bad. Microsoft said over a billion people were using Windows 10 & 11, but the vast majority of those were on machines that already ran Windows 7/8.1 just fine (and may have been upgraded forcefully).

They tried once to limit hardware compatibility as Intel was switching over to 10th gen by giving people a cut-off point where new versions of Windows 10 would not work on hardware older than Intel 8th gen, but it was so poorly received that they walked it back (and did it with Windows 11 instead).

An actual EOL is going to be very tough to pull off because everyone expects their computers to last more than three years now.

buckykat ,

XP released in 2001, only stopped getting support in 2014, and got an emergency security patch as recently as 2019. Expecting computers to last more than 3 years isn’t new.

emi ,
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Meanwhile they say 12 will come out in 2024. Lol

jaykstah ,

I think most people who are already using windows will just stay on 10 for as long as possible rather than switching. I had a friend still using windows 7 by the time 11 rolled around. But once 10 hits EOL maybe the momentum will convince more of those to switch to a Linux distro

ghariksforge ,

It’s higher in countries that are poorer and run old hardware. For example Linux has more than 10% market share in India.

sedawk , to programmerhumor in Project Reality
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Where is the phase where management spends all the dev time getting contracts in place, then gets mad when they can’t keep the same schedule?

zombuey , to fediverse in Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook

I’m pretty conflicted about this I gotta say.

anewbeginning ,

You shouldn’t be. These companies are not here to play along, but dominate. Just like reddit played along with 3rd party developers until it didn’t need them anymore, so will Meta use the openess of the protocol to ultimately undermine it.

Le_Roi_Est_Mort ,
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linearchaos ,
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They are, but we should figure out how to beat them at their game. They’ll probably manage to get custody of the remainder of the decent people from twitter, being able at an individual level to follow a single person over there without having to hear from all the people over there would be a better solution.

Right now we lack the proper tools to keep them at bay without massive moderation on our end so blocking them is best, but we can eventually work out a middleground.

mobley , (edited ) to fediverse in Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook

But Lemmy isn’t activitypub? Unless threads opens up to lemmys protocol it wouldn’t be able to see anything anyway… Right?

woelkchen ,
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But Lemmy isn’t activitypub?

No idea where you got that idea.

mobley ,

Oh shit you’re right. I could have sworn I saw they used their own protocol “similar to activitypub” but looking at their site it sure as shit is activitypub. Thanks

mobley ,

~~But Lemmy isn’t activitypub? Unless threads opens up to lemmys protocol it wouldn’t be able to see anything anyway… Right? ~~

Suoko , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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PCs are getting common devices in all houses: you start cracking software, then you buy a couple of them, in the end you look for opensource versions. That’s how it often goes. The same applies to operating systems

sin_free_for_00_days , to newcommunities in Neverbrokenabone - The community for strong-boned people that never got broken.

I always figure anyone who has never broken a bone has lived a very conservative, unexciting life.

UnicornKitty ,
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I’ve flipped over my bike and fallen from various heights an unknown number of times. Stubbed toes galore. I might be a bit clumsy. Never broken a bone.

Sharpiemarker ,

That’s how it is for everyone… Until they break a bone.

hyorvenn , to technology in Linux Desktop Market share reaches 3.08%
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Gave up my windows boot and only use Linux since recently. I kept using Windows for gaming (although it means I used it 99% of the time as a result). But retried linux gaming with Proton and everything runs smoothly enough for me. From big games like SF6 to native games like POE, it’s such a pleasure to see that everything “just works” most of the time. I kept my W10 dual boot in case some specific game just cannot be handled by Linux.

With the switch to Lemmy and now a full switch to Linux, I’m glad I threw away all these adwares :-)

fugepe OP ,

For games in Linux there is wine. same for some programs. I nuked windows from my PCs long ago, its secluded on a VM just in case.

zingo ,

Exactly what I have done too.

Switched to Lemmy and to Linux Desktop.

Dual booting Windows 10 probably until it stops receiving security updates, then all in on Linux.

fschaupp ,
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It sounds to me like a little excuse not going in all the way now. Hey, no offense here.

I also have a Windows partition, I exclusively use it for the AntiCheat games I already own. I now check in advance if it’s supported and otherwise just skip that game.

zingo ,

I’m still in the Early days of Linux and I had trouble twice with other distros before.

I think third time is the charm. Still I have been bitten before so I’m holding on to Windows for a while just to play it safe.

I am daily driving Linux though, I hardly use windows. But I need a working computer so I can always fall back to Windows if all else fails.

fschaupp ,
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Ah, sounds reasonable.

ghariksforge ,

I stopped checking protondb or winehq when buying a game. Games just work on Linux these days, and I assume by default that they will.

CaptObvious , to fediverse in Second largest Lemmy instance preemptively un-friends Facebook

Well done. I hope more of the fediverse follows suit. Facebook has a long way to go to restore trust – if that’s possible at all. They’re nowhere near that threshold yet.

pensivepangolin ,

Personally I don’t think there is anything they could do gain trust short of undoing their data harvesting. Which would destroy them as a business entity/platform.

CaptObvious ,

Agreed. And I just saw lemmy.world’s post explaining why they aren’t going to defederate until Threads messes up. Personally, I think that’s granting Facebook far too much benefit of doubt. I’d much rather belong to an instance that takes a wait-and-see approach before allowing Facebook to connect to its communities.

rageagainstmachines ,

There’s no way to build, let alone restore, trust with that kind of business model. All behavior manipulation companies need to die. Their mere existence is unethical.

CaptObvious ,

Agreed on all counts. But since we can’t kill them ourselves, the best we can do is keep them out of our communities.

makeshiftreaper , to programmerhumor in Scrum Master

Hey man, that’s not cool. Once I finish this round of Fortnite, take a 2 hour lunch, and go afk at 4 I’ll reply to this in 2 or 3 days asking you for an update

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