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Elkaki123 ,

You are doing it right, even on desktop it’s the same thing. All one needs to do is search for a community from other instance in your own indtance and subscribe, you can even subscribe for communities outside of lemmy like kbin and beehaw

Elkaki123 , (edited )

Op, try presding this teo communities and subscribe just to check it’s working properly

!manga

!games

After you verify they are working feel free to unsubscribe of course.

Edit: after reading it again I’m a bit confused to what your problem is, so here is a quick run down of jow things should work.

From your own account, use the search bar to search for a community in another instance, there try to see button for about community (it might be different on each app) and lastly press subscribe. From yhere, all your subscriptions should appear the same regardless of where they come from.

Elkaki123 ,

Not really, you probably can already see the posts on your frontpage feed (which is exclusive for your subscribed communities) and it also already should appear on your subscribed list.

And as the other user said, it is a bug that it appears as pending. At least on desktop when it days that I reload the page and press the subscribe button twice and it fixes, alternatively on the app “connect for lemmy” I have never seen the issue. But regardless it’s not really a problem

Elkaki123 ,

While there is less reddit content I do feel this past week it just got replaced with meta/threats, and personally it has been kind of even more tiring than reddit content as it has tended to feel like an echo chamber where everyone read the same post and spread a lot of negativity about how Lemmy won’t survive Meta if we don’t block instances that don’t block threats and the like and also the idea going around that if someone wants to federate he is either ignorant or stupid, and talking about that, the elitism on this threats treating everyone on insta and threats as stupid people and saying they don’t sant any of those people here because it dumbs down the content… This last week has been really toxic on the larger communities.

Sorry for that little rant, I had to get that out of my system jeje.

Elkaki123 ,

I’m a bit sad when it comes to smaller communities that have been struggling with content, problem is that for some of those hobbies it took a lot of time to reach a user base in reddit where there were discussions and interesting posts every day, here while I see a lot of committed users trying their bests some communities are simply unable to reach that level yet.

I am hopeful for the future, but in my case it’s about people just learning how to use it which is something I kind of saw in Mastodon this past year. The way for content to remain high quality is through moderation and setting the example, not simply by being difficult for casual users since in my eyes they are needed in this kind of forums.

Elkaki123 ,

Jaja I understand the need for time, we will see how things develop.

Just as an aside note, the idea of “at least my racist uncle won’t join” is lowkey funny to me. It shouldn’t matter if he joins, we have tools for banning and most people should already shun that behavior. After all, it’s not like racism is safeguarded against because we keep normies out, at least two huge instances on the fediverse currently (or forks from it) are alt right cesspools. And I have seen a few andrew tate fans and also some racist pricks both over at madtodon and here, it’s not like only kind people join this kind of places, but as long as we moderate properly it shouldn’t be much of a problem.

Elkaki123 ,

For me while scrolling through a threat I upvote those that I agree with and leave alone those that I disagree, unless it’s done in an asshole kind of way which I kind of despise.

But if I make a post I do tend to upvote everyone which I kind of justify as “rewarding” people for interacting with me.

Elkaki123 ,

But they bought that one, we don’t really have examples of meta doing EEE right? (Since 90% of those come from Microsoft and Bill Gates shuitty brain)

Elkaki123 ,

I don’t mind reading about reddit on the reddit community, but the fact people can’t shut up in non related communities annoys me to no end, the circlejerking is insane.

It’s like, people go to asklemmy and ask “don’t you feel this is so MUCH better than reddit, people are way nicer and have higher IQ”, like dude come on.

Also another one is people bashing reddit for no reason, like a post that said that reddit doesn’t respect free speech and showed a threat lf deleted comments with no context, as if that was a bad act in itself some people talk about moderation as if it was a bad thing done over in the bad reddit

Elkaki123 ,

I might be misunderstanding something, but you are talking about a tag (same as a private note over mastodon or a profile note in discord)

At least it looks that way because of this

Add the ability to tag users, so a title i give him will be next to his name.

What this user is asking is if you can write someone’s name on a post and for that petson to receive a notification that they have been mentioned.

Elkaki123 ,

Not saying you are wrong, since it is currently imposible to do here, but I don’t think the federated nature of usernames has anything yo do with if they receive a notification or bot since over at mastodon you can tag people properly and they are notified.

Elkaki123 ,

Did it do something?

Elkaki123 ,

I’m with you on this one, in a vacuum I don’t really have a problem with the term “normie” but here it is completely being used as gatekeeping.

This whole meta controversy has really caused some brain rot, a lot of people talk about this place as if it’s better because it “gatekeeps”. They say they enjoy this place because it is niche and doesn’t have the “below room temperature IQ posters” (actual quote I saw)

I don’t like this attitude, I really don’t like it. It is way to common on the internet, especially for hobby communities to have this attitude.

Elkaki123 ,

Or if you really care about not seeing “mass appeal social media content”, like, just don’t join those communities???

Like the whole “it’s better if those people aren’t on this platform” is so stupid when you consider the entire aspect of fragmentation going on for federated communities…

Elkaki123 ,

(TLDR: if you only read one thing make it so its the last paragraph, it is the main argument anyways the first part was more of the rationale behind it)

I disagree with your notion. Although I feel there are two meanings for gatekeeping clashing. First there is gatekeeping in a traditional sense, which is filtering. As in you need to meet certain requirements, be it that your post sticks to the rules, moderation would technically be gatekeeping here as it rejects the content made by the people who dont adhere to what the community has determined. In this sense it is good

Then there is the “urban” meaning of the world (not sure if that is the word in english for popular use of words) where here in the internet gatekeeping is more referred to keeping something “pure” by excluding people out, or for keeping a sense of elitism. I feel almost all fandoms went through this phase during the early 2010s late 2000s, just as an example if you ever said you liked anime but had only watched shōnen you would have been mocked by every single person on the forum. Gaming communities have also been incredibly toxic in this regards, need I remind you of the entire GamerGate era…

Sure this two meanings can conflate, but by dividing I can explain why I am opposed to the second attitude while not minding the first. The gatekeeping by the communities, which is necessary as you say to keep good communities is certainly good. Of course we need moderation and rules to make communities work, even really heavy moderation and exclusions can be good as long as they are rational and serve a particular purpose like what r/askhistorias did by removing 99% of comments.

But the attitude of “things are better now because you have to be really smart to be here” is a stupid elitist notion, change it a bit and its the same argument that has been used to gatekeep hobbies so strongly instead of fostering someone’s interest in a thing into something better. Here what we need is not to “keep those people out” but instead we need to embrace them and push them to make better content. Simple as, we designate the rules and we create the content that becomes the standard. Communities are far better shaped by setting a standard of appropriate conduct that people who are joining replicate instead of outright denying some people because they are “normies” that will ruin things for us.

Elkaki123 ,

I will just say, that image of what the fediverse is (or ought to be), while not rare, is not shared by everyone.

If you actually want gatekeep only high effort posta you might want to go to Tildes.

I don’t think gatekeeping is the answer, I mean I always wanted this platform yo grow horizontally unless there are many, many instances and a lot of people for variety. If you want to see only high effort content only join appropriate communities, it’s as easy as that. To justify blthr block because it will taint the space is just a bad arguments in my eyes.

Elkaki123 ,

I am personally guessing it’s this option, people keep saying the idea is to EEE but I don’t think this would be the most effective use of Meta resources since they should be focusing yheir efforts at beating twitter.

Elkaki123 ,

Embrace, extend and extinguish.

It was a more common tactic back in the day for tech giants to destroy competition omfor open software specifically.

…wikipedia.org/…/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

Elkaki123 ,

Jajaja I thought about that while typing it out but I still dont believe this is about EEE, Meta hasnt operated with that mindset yet in other spaces from what I know and I feel this is more that a kneejerk reaction of people not liking big corporations associating it with the idea that big corps want to kill the freedom that these spaces bring to online communities.

But I believe in the design of the fediverse and the resilience of the people, I dont think that a few platforms hoarding the big majority threaten the entirety of the fediverse, as long as people can self host their own instances since we can ensure there will always be spaces for communities like this, even in worse case scenarios like Meta just having so many features that other platforms cant compete in those terms I still feel a niche of the same people that are building this today are going to stick with it, and thus we can keep this going even if we are forced to defederate at a later date or they defederate us.

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Elkaki123 ,

Wait how has Maatodon treated BIPOC? Is this about the users or a particular instance? Frankly I had never heard about this, I frequently use mastodon and it’s really welcoming of queer people (I feel overall, but at the very least it is true comparedd with the rest of social media) so I didn’t think there would be an issue with POC.

Elkaki123 , (edited )

Why? If you have blocked meta shouldn’t you already be exempt from seeing comments and posts by their users on other instances? Why is this punitive approach needed

Edit: (Alongside downvoting, an explanation might be better suited to change people’s minds, I just eant to know the advantage of this approach since you are excluding yourself from many users and you would have already blocked meta in this scenario)

Elkaki123 ,

Just so I understand, blocking an instance:

Does:

  • block people from that instance from interactinh with yours
  • blocks people from your own indtance being able to search theirs
  • blocks communities from that instance to appear on /all

It doesn’t:

  • Block comments if done on non blockef instance
  • Block posts if done on non blocked instance

Is that right? I was under the impression that defederating would block them completely, as that is how it worked over at mastodon, if it doesn’t that seems like a serious oversight.

Elkaki123 ,

I keep asking but haven’t gotten an answer, why must instances that block meta also block those that federate with META? Wouldn’t blocking META be enough, as you wouldn’t see their posta, nor users, nor comments in any way after blovking the domain?

Is this punitive or is yhere a reason I’m mising?

Elkaki123 ,

Agree, by design the fediverse should be able to resist whatever the supposed harm is from META, I don’t really agree with privacy concerns since everything on the fediverse is public, especially on kbin and lemmy, almost everything is already available to whomever eants it, there is no need to set up this hugr machination since they can already accomplish it so much easier.

Elkaki123 ,

Come on what is this elitism, almost everyone has an Instagram, it’s not that huge of a leap to just press the button that says threats, it’s not a sign of stupidity.

Seriously there is some heavy gatekeeping and elitism going around whenever there is a conversation around META

Meta can rage farm Mastodon without controlling it

Meta can introduce their signature rage farming to the Fediverse. They don’t need to control Mastodon. All they have to do is introduce it in their app. Show every Threads user algorithmically filtered content from the Fediverse precisely tailored for maximum rage. When the rage inducing content came from Mastodon, the enraged...

Elkaki123 ,

I agree with the sentiment, I’m not a fan of preemptively blocking meta on instance level, especially when everyone was touting about how the fediverse is corporation resistant and by design it is resilient because of it’s horizontal nature, but at the first sign of threat they resort to the nuclear option.

Having said that, Lemmy specifically lacks tools on the user level, especially blocking instances. If a user doesn’t want to associate at all that is understandable (privacy concerns, not wanting to interact with hate groups, etc) but right now they can only block communities and users individually, which would make it impossible to block meta.

Lastly, I feel there are avenues that haven’t been properly explored, like forcing them to open source if they want to federate. (On the grounds of privacy concerns and security) In practice that would be the same as blocking them, but it would laid out a good foundation for new companies that want to enter the space without having to discriminate on a case by case basis.

Problem is that blocking is the nuclear option and everyone blovking before something comes out, which no one knows the danger yet like a hate speach platform would entail, goes against the spirit of the fediverse.

Elkaki123 ,

Good points. I’m sure there are other potential solutions to reduce the fear of EEE taking place here. I don’t really think EEE would work, since instances are supposed to be small and operate horizontally, it is kind of impossible to kill Lemmy as long as we understand that we need to spread out a little bit (otherwise huge instances being defederated hugely impacts the user experience)

One thing though, Mastodon does allow for blocking domains. I just tried it over Mastodon.online and also through the fedilabs app, both are working. Kbin also has that feature, wish they implemented it to Lemmy so that we can empower users to customize their experience without needing to self host.

Elkaki123 ,

But a counter is that much of that information is already public and can be scraped, they aren’t gaining much on outside meta users that they aren’t already able to do.

Best advice at the end of the day is that for social media, unless advertised on privacy, never post anything you dont want to be public. And for cases like lemmy, expect even metadata to be available for anyone interested.

I understand the wish to not interact with meta, even if its for privacy concerns.

But Im a firm believer that it is the user first who needs to make that decision, not the instance. But as I said, Lemmy being the only one of the big fedi platforms right now that doesnt have a feature for instance/domain blocking user level kinds of screws this up.

Elkaki123 ,

When you say that there is no technical way, you sre referring to users not being able to block instances right?

If it’s that I don’t think it is that difficult to implement, Mastodon already allows for that. And also the app “connect for lemmy” in its last update has given the option to block instances user level, I don’t really know yet if it blocks all users from that indtance from appearing or only communities as I haven’t tested it yet.

Regardless to say, if we can get the appropriate tools this definitely could be a decision for users to take, if we make it so that they can completely block any and all content coming from a big instance.

Elkaki123 ,

For anyone interested, they explained the reasoning behind this particular defederation here:

docs.beehaw.org/docs/…/on-defederation/

At the end of the day beehaw wants to be tightly moderated and it’s kind of imposible to properly moderate huge amounts of users at the moment with their tools so they decided to ban big instances that don’t require any verification to join

Elkaki123 ,

Agree with the sentiment, I don’t need it nor is it my thing, I prefer to be the one that has to do the blocking rather than mods, but I can see why it’s there.

I hate when people try to do safe spaces and some outsider looks at it and starts staying it’s authoritarian, an echo chamber, propaganda, power hungry admins, etc. Like, dude if there is a group of people that want to be protected from certain rethoric, it’s pathetic to act with indignation just because the don’t want everyone to interact. Not every community is about fitting everyone and being neutral, as long as they are transparent with it let them have their place in peace.

Elkaki123 ,

Have you considered making an account there (or on a non blocked lemmy instance), especially with how most apps I’ve used allow for multiple accounts and changing with two taps I don’t think there is much reason not tp make an account in the meantime.

Elkaki123 OP ,

I don’t know why wouldn’t they be private, in mastodon only you can see the notes. It could be made so that they are stored locally or by instances but encrypted

But I agree a plugin would be ideal, but as I have 0 programming knowledge I’m asking in case one exists.

Elkaki123 OP ,

Nope, sorry. I’m not talking about private message (dm’s if you will) but instead about notes.

Notes is a little thing you write under someone’s profile so that you, privately, xan remember said person.

Tongive you an example, let’s say we interacted in a post about international politics and you mentioned you are from Zimbabwe. I could add a note to your profile saying something like “from Zimbabwe”, you could not see this note as it would be for myself to cechk if I ever interact with you again.

Many other social media has this features, in discord I use it to check when people change usernames, in mastodon just to remember people, heck even in league og legends ypu can add notes to profiles in game which I use to remember friends of friends when I play with one.

Elkaki123 OP ,

Problem is I haven’t coded a single thing in my life, while I could technically made something I much prefer using something already made by someone who knows what he is doing

I will try to seaech what you say to see if I can do something quickly, but I will probably surrender if it’s not just replicating an online tutorial.

Elkaki123 OP ,

Wait you could log in to a lemmy instance from a mastodon client? Or did you talke that picture from a Mastodon account?

Having said that this is the closest thing I’ve seen to what I want, only problem being that I would need to use a Mastodon UI which doesnt have downvotes.

Also unrelated, but this is the first time I encounter an image on the comments.

Elkaki123 OP ,

This wasn’t working, but then I realized you come from Kbin, I logged into Kbin and turns up you guys have this feature! It’s not on lemmy yet.

Kbin looks so appealing, but there isn’t an android app at the moment (right?) and I’m kind of growing attached to lemmy, but I probably will try to use Kbin more once I get an app for it.

Elkaki123 ,

You realize the downvotes came from your comments and not the post itself right?

You made the shittiest attack helicopter joke I’ve seen in a while

Also it literally goes against this community rules and the instance as a whole, wonder why you are still allowed to post.

Go join truth social or some other alt right fork instead of waisting everyone’s time

Elkaki123 , (edited )

While I do find it funny to have pronouns in a semi-anonymous community, the reason has to do with the community they want to build, especially it being on the progressive side of culture, here is an expert from their mission statement:

As a news aggregator and a social media outlet, with a focus on being a safe and accepting space, we strive to create a positive social impact. We will also help to connect underprivileged and minority individuals with education and civic participation by promoting a healthier online experience.

Aside from that I feel it’s common modern internet etiquette to have your pronouns available, and while I do find it funny to have when you are technically anonymous it probably makes communication easier and helps erase the internet bias of thinking every single persin you meet is a man.

Edit: now this was an unexpected turn of events, I didn’t expect OP to be this much of an imbecile.

Elkaki123 ,

This comment reeks of bad faith.

So you don’t care of what pronouns they choose? You literally don’t know them irl, you would have 0 information of what their gender is to call them anything but “they” if they don’t put their pronouns. Assuming everyone is a man is unhelpful nowadays.

Even if you were a right winger immersed so far in the culture war you are unable to recognize the idea of gender as separate from sex and thus denying people determining their own pronouns, you still wouldn’t know what someone is. But if that is frankly your position it would be better you stay away from that place since you would be exactly the kind of people they have to moderate so heavily against

YSK there are sites that offer you a temporary email address for signing up for services that require one (like some Lemmy servers)

They work by giving you a random email address that is available for a short time (ex. 10min) and an inbox for any messages you recieve during that time (ex. an email verification message from a Lemmy server)...

Elkaki123 ,

I’m personally deeply skeptical, even if it’s from one of the most secure companies I would have a heart attack if I hear it’s hacked.

I personally just use pen and paper, two copies, and try to do variations or new passwords for things I care about and then one common password for useless things with no credit card info.

Elkaki123 OP ,

Would you? Wouldn’t that behave like browsing for local of that instance?

Elkaki123 OP ,

Now this is a feature worth changing from Lemmy to Kbin, I was going to wait for kbin to get an update but that is a really good feature.

Elkaki123 OP ,

As thenother user pointed out, I want to block instances, that os why I pointed out the github threat.

Blocking communities has become really easy though, at least from my app I can block them just by seeing a post.

Elkaki123 OP ,

Yep, it would give much more control to the user, also it’s a feature already present in mastodon (called block domain over there) so it’s not a foreign idea to the fediverse.

Elkaki123 OP ,

Can you block your users from following instances? This looks like a serious problem if it were not possible to regulate.

Elkaki123 ,

Stability would be fixed if people realized they don’t have to all join the biggest two communities, which is part of the education problem we have right now for completely new users.

Although servers have really been scaling nicely regardless of those days right after the privating and then July 1st

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