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rbesfe , to nostupidquestions in How does renouncing citizenship work?

Renouncing citizenship is a formal process done at the consulate or embassy, so country A almost by definition has to know about it

cabhan , to nostupidquestions in How does renouncing citizenship work?

I’m working on some outdated memories, but IIRC:

Germany allows dual citizenship now, but used to not allow it in most cases. In those cases, if you applied for German citizenship, you had to express that you were willing to give up your old citizenship. Once you were granted citizenship, you had a certain amount of time (two years?) to show a certificate that you renounced your old citizenship. If you didn’t, your German citizenship would be revoked.

DumbAceDragon , to science_memes in Potoos
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What’s hawk tuah?

fossilesque OP ,
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qarbone ,

Not much, what’s hawk tuah you?

cyberpunk007 , to nostupidquestions in How does renouncing citizenship work?

I had no idea this was a thing. If you renounce your citizenship and you don’t yet have a new one… What a weird place to be in.

jbrains ,

Countries typically don’t allow that. (Do any allow it?) For example, Canada requires you (at least) to be a citizen of another country and to live outside Canada.

doughless ,

The UN would likely consider it a violation of their human rights if a country knowingly allowed a citizen to become stateless. I would hope that at least all member states would not allow it, but I don’t know for certain.

PythagreousTitties ,

You can renounce us citizenship any time you’d like. They don’t care if you’ll become stateless. But you definitely do not want to be stateless.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Now you have me wondering about legal juristiction of mermaids in international waters…

bdonvr ,

The USA allows it. Though I imagine the embassy staff will probably try to warn you.

alcoholicorn ,

Yeah, being stateless is really bad. There’s a few international agreements to avoid the creation of more stateless people, but it still happens. You end up with people spending years in airports or jails as their visa expires and they have no way to renew it or get a visa for elsewhere, and asylum claims can take months to years to process, and get denied anyway.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statelessness

cyberpunk007 ,

Exactly what I was wondering, thanks. I assume you have to renounce before acquiring a new citizenship? No thanks.

bluGill ,

Most countries tell you to renounce after you gain the new so it isn't a problem. A few allos dual citizenhip. (maybe most allow dual? I seem to recall that but it is outside where I'm sure)

cyberpunk007 ,

If you do that couldn’t you just not let them know about the new citizenship? How does that work?

alcoholicorn ,

It’s very difficult to enforce. I’ve heard of cases where people like show the embassy a passport of a citizenship they said they renounced by accident, and were just sternly told to renounce it, other cases where their new citizenship was revoked.

alcoholicorn ,

No, other way around. Most countries won’t even allow you to renounce if you don’t have another citizenship.

The US also charges $10,000 dollars to accept your renunciation. The US is one of the few countries that taxes its citizens in foreign countries so there’s a big incentive to renounce when you get citizenship in a better place. There is a substantial tax deduction for the first ~150K you earn in another country, as long as you spend less than 10 days in America or traveling and pay taxes in that country, as long as that country has such an agreement with the US.

jbrains , to nostupidquestions in How does renouncing citizenship work?

It varies from country to country. Some countries don’t let you become a citizen again after renouncing, while others allow it.

Citizenship is related to taxes (which also varies from country to country), so some countries are very interested in your citizenship in order to be able to establish that you owe them income taxes.

How would your previous country find out? I imagine it’s like any crime: you either do something to make it easier for them (try to renew a passport, fail to file a tax return) or they find you by accident (some investigator notices a connexion between two observations that makes their mind tingle).

There’s probably more, but that’s enough to answer your questions.

hitstun , to asklemmy in What Do You Use Your Personal Website For?
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Mine points to a Tumblr blog that I don't really use anymore because I'm posting here instead. I ought to turn it into a more professional portfolio page and use some of the other ideas in this thread. I have email at that domain thanks to my legacy free Google Workspace I've had for like 15 years.

AllNewTypeFace , to nostupidquestions in If you could substract* a leader from this world which one would you choose ?
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Rupert Murdoch

ChickenLadyLovesLife , to lemmyshitpost in LinkedIn

Not exactly the same, but I once attended a work call when I was staying with my Dad after he had a knee replacement. He had decided to “tough it out” and not take painkillers, and during the call he started screaming “kill me! oh god kill me!” because of the pain, quite loud enough to be heard by everyone on the call. My boss said “it’s OK, ChickenLady, this call isn’t that important. Go ahead and kill your father.”

bitfucker ,

People take what they love. Username checksout

Shellbeach ,

I honestly think that humor is the answer to most if not all issues. Bit iffy since we don’t share the same but humor is the answer. That and puppies and kittens…

Edit: and elephants!

Deestan , to nostupidquestions in Do you agree with my unpopular opinion about height in rapier fencing?

Having fenced rapier and kendo, I say no.

The bigger guys win. In rapier, reach is king. In kendo, reach plus knocking your opponent off balance is a major advantage.

You focus too much on belly wounds. In general.

Phoenix3875 , to linuxmemes in Based on a true story

For true immutability, burn something like tails on a read-only CD.

Babalugats , to showerthoughts in Snowflake is such a weird insult as it seems to imply it's best to just be like everyone else

Doesn’t the same apply to pretty much any insult?

And why we’re not supposed to use the word “normal” when referring to somebody or what they aren’t…

I don’t think snowflake is intended to be an insult though, is it? I always thought it was a stupid reference to an over sensitive generation.

Pistcow , to nostupidquestions in Do you agree with my unpopular opinion about height in rapier fencing?
AFreeLarryHoover , to games in ROMhacking.net shuts down after 20 years; database has been moved to the Internet Archive
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO

TheImpressiveX , to science_memes in PSA: Libraries
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But how are they doing that without any profit motive?

/s

Tabula_stercore , to science_memes in PSA: Libraries

This is a national post, without any science

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