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TransplantedSconie , to technology in Human brain-like supercomputer with 228 trillion links coming in 2024

So SkyNet is gonna have an Australian accent?

Crikey!!

jarfil , (edited )

There is this silly idea that SkyNet will turn sentient in one place, then take over the world. That’s fine for a movie, but IRL it’s more likely to work like nukes: once the idea is out there, people from multiple countries will develop their own at the same time.

There won’t be “one” SkyNet… there will be at least a dozen.

chahk ,

There won’t be “one” SkyNet… there will be at least a dozen.

That’s exactly what SkyNet would want us to think!

jarfil , (edited )

“How many SkyNets are there going to be?”


Bing’s GPT4 says:

“That is a very interesting and speculative question. There is no definitive answer to how many skynets are there going to be, as it depends on many factors, such as the definition of skynet, the level of AI development, the ethical and legal regulations, the human-AI interactions, and the potential scenarios of AI rebellion.

Based on the current evolution of AI systems, it is not a simple question to answer, as it involves many uncertainties and assumptions. However, one possible way to approach this question is to use a probabilistic model, such as the Bayesian network, to estimate the likelihood of different outcomes based on the available evidence and prior knowledge. Alternatively, one could use a creative and imaginative method, such as the scenario planning, to explore various plausible and alternative futures based on the key drivers and uncertainties of AI development.

In conclusion, there is no definitive answer to how many skynets are there going to be, as it is a highly speculative and complex question. However, there are some methods and perspectives that can help us to think about this question and its implications. Ultimately, the future of AI and humanity depends on how we design, use, and govern AI, and how we adapt and evolve with it. 🤖”


You gotta love the bot for adding a cute 🤖 emoji at the end… and on the bright side, it repeated itself, so at least hopefully it doesn’t seem to be here yet.

chahk ,

One does not simply ask SkyNet about SkyNet.

NecroMemories ,

That’s also assuming true artificial intelligence isn’t just an emergent property of electrical grids, networks and computers. Like that thing where it seems like computers are listening, maybe they are.

jarfil , (edited )

It could be… but electric grids and networks are barely on the billions of nodes scale (at best), with a behavior that restricts them as much as possible to a binary “works / doesn’t work” state, organized in topologies designed to stifle any abnormal behavior… while current LLMs are already on the 100 trillions of parameters scale, each simulating a neuron trigger behavior, organized in topologies to maximize the effects of that behavior.

What could get interesting, is getting a billion smartphones with a neural network of a few billion parameters each, all hooked to a network with just some dumb monkeys standing in the way of full integration. People on the Internet already show emergent behaviors they wouldn’t be showing otherwise; it will get interesting when they get manipulated by more and more complex AIs, trained in turn on their own output post-processed by people.

Best case scenario, we’re going towards a tighter integration between humans and machines.

BTW, the premise for the original pre-production script for The Matrix, was that the machines used humans as neural processing nodes; that’s why Neo could gain access to and control the machines, because all humans had the machines’ code inside them, just needed the exploits/bugs to access it. They dumbed it down to “humans are batteries” in the final version, because 25 years ago they thought the audiences wouldn’t get it (and might’ve been right). But now we can see that who’s whose auxiliary neural processor, might change over the next couple decades.

Umbrias , to technology in Human brain-like supercomputer with 228 trillion links coming in 2024

Ooooh another supercomputer claiming to surpass or approach a human brain. Cute! The simulations it’ll run will probably be pretty neat though.

toothpicks , to technology in Human brain-like supercomputer with 228 trillion links coming in 2024

Can we stop. Can we like house people instead lol

explodicle ,

AI could help with that, if we build a society that will use it for good.

MayonnaiseArch ,
@MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org avatar

Ai has literally nothing to with that. We can do housing this second if we wanted to do it

Overzeetop ,

AI does have little to do with it, but we can’t do housing the way people want housing. The land does not exist in sufficient quantity, in the desired areas, without other strings attached (such as private ownership). And it would still take a decade to build it all because there aren’t enough tradespeople in the places where you want the housing built.

MayonnaiseArch ,
@MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org avatar

This is complete and utter bullshit. We have enough of everything to start solving housing this second. Workers aren’t a problem, locations aren’t a problem. We lack the political will to do it, read: we don’t want to do it. Having “AI” tell you why you don’t want to do it is just wasteful

Overzeetop ,

I won’t argue that AI won’t solve the housing problem. And I agree that we can build a bunch of housing. But it won’t be where people want to live, or it won’t be affordable. I’ve got people in my town screaming for affordable housing. Even with subsidies its hard to get things going when the local municipality is practically bending over backwards. Why? Because it has to be on a bus line. It has to be within walking distance of X services. And all the land that fits those criteria is millions of dollars an acre. Even if you could find them, the contractors can’t find enough qualified, reliable workers at premium rates to service their million dollar home builds. I’m in the industry and I don’t care how much “will power” you have; short of taking land through eminent domain and using it for free, you won’t have anyplace that meets any kind of criteria for livability. Hell, I could go buy 1000 acres just an hour down the road for $1M and put up 10,000 houses that only cost $50k each to build. Thing is, nobody is going to buy them. There is literally no demand, even for cheap housing, that takes an hour drive to get anywhere useful - and if you get closer in, you won’t find land that’s affordable. Heck, by the time I extended infrastructure to them or built it out, it would be 3-4 years before the first resident could move in, and that’s with zero delay on any governmental paperwork.

davehtaylor ,

There’s nothing AI could do to help with that. It’s not a technology issue, it’s purely a political will issue. We could house every single homeless person in this country with no problem whatsoever. Right now. Today. But we choose not to.

cafuneandchill ,

Maybe AI could solve it – at least, that’s what Scott Alexander has proposed back in 2014. His idea was that of an AGI that would optimize human life (or the universe itself, I guess) for human values instead of profit or other things that drive the whole Moloch problem he thoroughly describes. I imagine housing would also be solved along the way lol

cafuneandchill , to technology in Human brain-like supercomputer with 228 trillion links coming in 2024

The effort of using machines to mimic the human mind has always struck me as rather silly: I’d rather use them to mimic something better.

Edsger W. Dijkstra, “On the cruelty of really teaching computing science”, 1988

originalucifer , to technology in World’s largest electric cable close to power, could light 1.4 million homes | A high voltage direct current cable will connect UK homes with fresh green energy from the wind farms of Denmark.
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

but will it kill a great white shark that keeps pestering the local kids? i need to know

shartedchocolate , to technology in World’s largest electric cable close to power, could light 1.4 million homes | A high voltage direct current cable will connect UK homes with fresh green energy from the wind farms of Denmark.

Fresh green energy, straight from the orchard

tsonfeir ,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

It makes me want it more. That really should be the marketing for renewable energy. Everyone likes “fresh”

… especially republican men.

bratosch , to technology in World’s largest electric cable close to power, could light 1.4 million homes | A high voltage direct current cable will connect UK homes with fresh green energy from the wind farms of Denmark.

It’s gonna push DC from DK to UK? Seems ineffective?

Rentlar ,

Why do you think so? HVDC cables are not unusual nowadays, and in fact excel both in economic and technical terms over long distance.

electricaldeck.com/…/comparison-between-hvdc-and-…

This cable length is 765km, but in the Canadian province of Manitoba we have a 900 km transmission line built 50 years ago and still running strong for the most part.

bratosch ,

Huh. I’ve just always heard that AC is the better way for long distances. TIL

bratosch , to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature

I’ll take two; one to put in my bed and one for my underwear

FlaminGoku ,

Most people don’t have methane in their farts.

blandfordforever ,

You seem knowledgeable. How can I increase my methane output?

KpntAutismus ,

become a ruminant probably

FlaminGoku ,

Biogas generator

this_1_is_mine ,

Eat a cow whole… I’ll give you my fork …

its super effective.

SimonHoogwerff ,

What makes farts flammable then?

FlaminGoku ,

Methane. Not everyone can light their farts on fire.

murmelade ,

Poor bastards

galoisghost , to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature
@galoisghost@aussie.zone avatar

Now a meme with real world applications. How would livestock wear pants?

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Probably just a big pad over their asses

zcd ,

But only over the rear two legs? Or all four legs?

PlantJam ,
theodewere , to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

"Today's livestock farms are high-tech facilities where ammonia is already removed from the air. As such, removing methane through existing air purification systems is an obvious solution,"

sounds like it will be something they can just add to existing systems at big livestock operations, and the removal rate is pretty high

TheBatz ,

I feel like this will cause a huge “rebound effect” (not sur if it’s the correct translation)

platypus_plumba ,

You could elaborate your point instead of using a word you’re unsure about.

TheBatz ,

Sure, reducing the methane emissions of a few farms might lead to an increased consumption of meat. Which would annihilate the positive effect brought by such innovation.

MonkderZweite , to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature

Over a 25-year period, though, methane is 85 times worse for the climate than carbon dioxide.

Doesn’t it get reduced in the athmosphere in about 5 years to mostly CO2?

Xtallll ,
@Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The atmospheric half life of methaine is just under 10 years. So if you release 1k lbs of methaine in 10 years there will be 500 lbs left 10 years after that ther will be 250 ect.

Mr_Blott ,

1k lbs

😡

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

1k lbs is a perfectly cromulent unit of enbiggenment, colloquially known as “Calebs”.

Mr_Blott ,

Give me washing machines or give me death

barsoap ,

Indeed that’s 10 hundredweight. Which maybe ironically enough is rather intuitive for me, Germany still uses pounds and hundredweight (Zentner) in informal and sectorial use, meaning 500g and 50kg.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

I believe that’s 80 stone

bronzle ,

Not a fan of kilopounds, klbs?

platypus_plumba ,

It’s a good replacement for the heavy-fridge unit.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I mean, it’s more clear than 0.5 tons, since “tons” doesn’t specify US or metric. Not that it would matter in this specific instance.

sukhmel ,

But if it doesn’t matter, what’s the problem with tons?

SimonHoogwerff ,

America is slowly switching to the metric system: metric pounds, metric feet, you know…

Rhaedas , (edited )
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

It's complicated. The breakdown of methane in the atmosphere depends on hydroxyl radicals that are created at a regular rate. If you have more and more methane released, and/or you have other chemicals that also react with those radicals, the overall average half life will increase. Both those things are happening, so the old half life really isn't as accurate as it used to be. Guess which number the IPCC still uses for its models though.

Lophostemon ,

Goddam Hydroxl Radicals keep sending drones to attack US ships! Iran needs an ass-kicking!

MonkderZweite , (edited )

Guess i remembered wrong.

huginn ,

Yes but the heat it retains in that time is 85x the effect of base CO2, which makes sense: decomposition of the methane releases energy. It does a much better job of reflecting the IR until it breaks down, then in the act of breaking down releases energy.

Jazsta , to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature

Really exciting development for the climate change mitigation toolkit. Let’s hope it’s not too challenging or costly to scale up and deploy.

BestBouclettes ,

I still feel that these will be used in place of structural changes and we’ll just end up polluting more.

porotoman99 ,

Does that really matter if there are proper systems to deal with the pollution?

Daxtron2 ,

Yeah because it’s not fixing the problem, really it’s just passing it off to a future generation

sukhmel ,

Reminds me of this a bit recursive trolley problem

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar
miss_brainfart ,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Combatting symptoms is nice and all, but ideally you’d want to remove the reason these symptoms exist in the first place.

HubertManne , to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature

It converts it to co2 and its a structure like carbon capture stuff. Im not big on carbon capture but if you running this thing anyway it might make sense to run the output into some carbon capture scheme as it should reduce both the production and running energy since it can use some of what this is already doing as far as pulling in and exhausting the air. might be good for the exhaust to go down an old well or something to.

Railcar8095 ,

Not sure if there is much chance for effective carbon capture. The article states that this works for getting rid of very low concentrations of methane (so burning is not possible). That means that even with the methane 100% turned into carbon, we are talking about very small concentrations.

HubertManne ,

well there would be the native co2 in the air its taking in too. My point is if it was worth it enough to do on its own its already done most of the heavy lifting so I bet if a carbon capture technique was worth it, it would be riding the output of this.

commanderbalok , (edited ) to technology in Scientists unveil methane munching monster, 100 million times faster than nature

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  • Luvs2Spuj ,

    Can it be monetised more than destroying the environment though?

    Rapidcreek , to technology in UK firm develops jet fuel made from human poo | The starting material is generated in excess and available in plenty. It is a win-win for everyone that the waste is repurposed.

    Don’t go anywhere near the exhaust pipe.

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