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merthyr1831 , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

start using linux lmao

pyromaniac_donkey ,

You woke up and chose truth

Mdotaut801 ,

Ugh Linux people. Not everyone wants to deal with it and want to play whatever games they want without feeling like they’re hacking the pentagon just to play their favorite game. Not everyone has the knowledge to do it nor do they particularly want that knowledge. They want things that work out of the box, they came here to ask about a windows specific annoyance, not what OS to switch to. Shut the fuck up about Linux for two seconds.

parsiuk ,

Clicking “Play” in Steam or Epic launcher is hacking the Pentagon for you?

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling ,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Devil’s Advocate: I have been unable to play the sims ever since EA moved it to the EA games launcher. Origin was poorly written, but the new launcher barely works on windows, let alone on Wine.

martinb ,

Check protondb. It sometimes has workarounds for launcher issues.

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling ,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thanks, ill look into that

HardNut ,

There’s been multiple times that I had an issue with a game launcher on windows bugging out and not being able to play my game, but then seeing it work just fine under linux with proton. There’s still some issues the devs need to work out, but we’re getting to the point that linux is more reliable

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling ,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Honestly I do agree with Linux being more reliable overall. That being said, I do think the biggest benefit Linux has given me is reinforcing a habit of backing up all my stuff constantly, since I never know when I’m going to try something stupid on an impulse.

HardNut ,

Haha, true! I’ve learned the hard way to try the really whacky shit in a virtual machine first, they’re quite handy for that. After lots of trial and error though, and learning what will break things and what won’t, I’ve been on the same install for several years now actually. But yes, back ups are still smart lol

UID_Zero ,
@UID_Zero@infosec.pub avatar

I hear your annoyance, and I get it, because the “real” question is “How do I stop this from ever happening again on Windows?”

But the bottom line is, no matter what workaround or registry fix is found, nothing stops MS from making changes and popping this crap up yet again in some other obnoxious and shitty way.

If you run Windows, you have to accept some level of this bullshittery.

merthyr1831 ,

I’m right though.

No amount of registry editing and weird app installing will permanently remove the obnoxious ads from Windows. And Linux is the only OS that can feel like Windows. (Zorin, Mint, any old KDE distro etc)

And honestly? Linux isn’t that hard anymore. Like, installing stuff can be done through graphical app stores that are easier than using Windows. Gaming on Linux works out of the box and has done for 5 years now.

This post is more like an apple user asking why their phone screen can’t be replaced without buying a new device, or a ford f150 owner asking how to get more than 5mpg in fuel economy: you tell them to (consider) a different choice of product

Swarfega , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

Edge/Windows is literally the technological equivalent of an obsessive ex-girlfriend.

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Relevant blog post …from 2016!

Treczoks ,

With a crazy disposition to boot.

Hadriscus ,

Makes me quite disposed to dual-boot

driving_crooner ,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

That’s not as bad. Imagine if it was the equivalent of an obsessive ex-boyfriend.

LoveSausage , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10
@LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Ok , first switch to Linux. Wait wait here me out :) Do a dual boot system and switch in between until your ready to move. Your windows install should be windows ameliorated , i.e windows AME. This removes everything from Windows , included updates. Can’t use latest office and unsure about gaming issues. I got it since I had one corp software I was forced to use.
Only way to actually stop windows shit.

MargotRobbie , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

But I actually prefer Bing over Google nowadays…

Also, at least they pay me for my data.

figaro ,

I’ve been using bing for the past 6 months or so, ever since the chat gpt integration.

In 6 months, I’ve earned enough points to get a $5 taco bell gift certificate.

Overall, the quality of results that I get are… Not as good as google. I find myself frequently re-searching things on Google because I actually do not find what I’m looking for on bing. And then on Google, the perfect result is the first or second listing.

Now, Google is integrating bard into searches. Sometimes it sucks, yes. But it is basically just as good as the bing chat gpt thing. So… Yeah. I’m going to go back to Google search soon.

MargotRobbie ,

Bing is better for images and videos I feel, and the search quality is better unless you are looking for a very specific term.

Tangent5280 ,

Images and Video, you say? 😏

FleetingTit ,

turns off safe search

normonator ,

I’m switching from Google now because the results have become unusably bad. They should’ve waited until bard was at least mildly useful.

Blacklisting sites from Google isn’t enough to keep it usable anymore.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Why are you using the search engine still instead of Bing AI directly?

figaro ,

For more conversational things that require more up-to-date knowledge and things that I need to verify the facts/sources for, I’ll use bing ai. It’s actually quite good for that.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I like how it references it’s sources.

Though I’ve pretty much replaced everything but image searches with it, it parses the data really well and gets the most relevant stuff.

Plus they just hooked it up to DALLE2 so you can feed it images and ask for it to take it as inspiration for other works.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/442c1112-e510-4c39-ad24-b076e8a65279.png

I fed a couple of Simon stalenhag’s works and asked it to generate a new cover for No Man’s Sky (Stalenhag made the OG one) based on his style but with oil painting. This was one of the outputs.

It’s really cool how fast it’s come around to be integrated with the rest of the environment. Can’t wait to see what they do next with it. I have a feeling Microsoft and Google will make commercial offerings for personal AI models that will be trained on company data and you’ll be able to use it without worrying if you’re exfiltrating data to OpenAI by using it.

figaro ,

Oh man that’s such a cool image! And yeah, its super cool what they are doing. I’m excited for DALLE2 to improve to the level of midjourney haha, but even now its pretty great!

And yeah I agree with you on the direction its going. Specialized models are definitely where its going to go.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t seen much of mid-journey, is it pretty photorealistic?

figaro ,

Oh dude, its really freakin good. Its like, 2 generations past DALLE2 at this point. If you are interested in AI art stuff, I recommend checking it out!

ICastFist , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

My suggestion is to download something like Windows Privacy Dashboard and disabling/uninstalling as much telemetry options as possible.

I’ve never got that kind of ad push, so i have to ask where you got it? Was it from using the search bar beside the start button? If so, maybe completely disabling and uninstalling Cortana might fix it.

fox2263 , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

Submit 🤣

pyromaniac_donkey , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

Switch to Linux

JoBo , (edited ) to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

Got this via Mastodon which will not let me search for the source.

If you’re in the US, when you set up Windows for the first time, select English (Europe) or English (World), not English (US). That will stop it installing all the bloatware that USians are not protected from but everyone else is.

borth ,

Would this work after you’ve already setup Windows?

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Throw all your important stuff onto a drive thay doesn’t contain the OS. Then remove the drive and wipe the computer. You can set it up again and choose the non-bloatware options.

JoBo ,

I doubt it. Don’t know if a fresh install would, or if you can get it fresh enough to work.

provomeister ,
@provomeister@lemmy.ca avatar

From what I’ve seen online, it must be done during installation. So short answer, no.

As others have said, you could also backup your data and do a fresh installation (from a boot media, not from Windows itself just to be extra safe).

ThioJoe also has a video talking about this English (Europe/World) thing and also provide a Powershell script to delete Windows bloatware. This option could be interesting if you don’t want to reset your whole installation.

PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/mZm6mY3I7J4?feature=shared

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

provomeister ,
@provomeister@lemmy.ca avatar

You must switch back to English (US) after installation if you want access to Microsoft Store (and even if you don’t, you probably should because most apps are now there).

I’ve seen a few tools to suppress most telemetry such as ChrisTitusTech’s winutil or O&O ShutUp, maybe you could give that a try. Microsoft is really pushing hard Bing & Edge…

Also, as a Linux user, I must obliged to the rules and say there’s alternatives out there if you want to try something new. :-) !linux

Cjwii ,

What exactly are you getting from the Microsoft app store out of curiosity?

cybersandwich ,

Wsl

provomeister ,
@provomeister@lemmy.ca avatar

Windows Terminal + WSL, everything related to Xbox if you’re using Gamepass or “Play anywhere” titles (Xbox/PC cross-buy).

Most basics apps are from the Microsoft app store too; calculator, calendar, paint, etc.

It’s been a hot minute since I’ve used Windows, but you’d be surprise how much apps are now updated through that app store.

If your device use Windows in S mode, all your apps must come from the store & you must use Edge.

Cjwii ,

Ah okay, I didn’t know people used it that way and I don’t do XBox game pass or anything like that. It makes sense. My only real experience with windows store apps has been my work computer trying to install a “personal use” version of Microsoft teams from there and apparently I had to get the professional version through M365 downloads.

darth_helmet ,

Windows ‘S’hit mode

HidingCat ,

It's definitely a US thing, I'm on English (Singapore) and have not seen an ad, ever. I was perplexed by all the complaints of ads in the start menu and wherever, until someone pointed to me that it was a US thing.

simonced ,

We leave in Japan, and my wife had that popup once already (using Brave on Win10 - surface laptop)

dangblingus , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

I freaked out yesterday when I got this pop up too. Like, okay, I heard about ads in Windows 11, but stay the fuck out of my 10.

majlitech ,
@majlitech@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to greedy corpo world.

solarvector , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

Sailing the high seas for an enterprise edition, combined with www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

The above is my solution until taking the other advice on this thread and transitioning to Linux. Only thing holding me back there is gaming (which already works great for most people, I had trouble with my GPU). There are so many things about Linux that are just better than Windows now, and a high number of use cases these days are met with Firefox and libre office.

Defaced ,

What GPU issues were you having btw? If they’re driver related you could use a distro that has Nvidia drivers baked into the ISO by default like pop_os, just use their Nvidia ISO for the install.

solarvector ,

AMD actually, newer 7900 xtx I think. It wasn’t a problem with the Linux desktop environment, but games crashing. At the time I didn’t have much time or patience to get it set up :/

Win 11 just isn’t going to happen though, too many good options now. If something doesn’t work by then 🤷‍♂️, guess it isn’t that important.

Defaced ,

Do you mind if I ask what you had tried to fix it? You could try using mesa-git for the latest bleeding edge driver’s for that new of a card.

solarvector ,

Thank you, I can’t remember what I did try though, and it had been a while since I had Linux as my primary OS. I was still trying to figure out how proton worked with steam and whatnot.

By the time I get around to trying it again my card will be sufficiently aged I probably won’t need to worry about it :D

excitingburp ,

I’m both an AMD (7900XT) and NixOS user. AMD drivers are known for being a bit wonky when they’re brand-new on Linux.

I continue to have a particularly bad experience with anything Flatpak (I chalk that up to its Ubuntu influences, rather than Linux in general), but everything else works perfectly.

darth_helmet ,

7900xt user here on Ubuntu lts: what worked for me was finding some Valve engineer’s ppa that has mesa drivers with modern chip support. I was honestly pretty pissed at how much work it was to get my gpu working in Linux after hearing so much about how good it has gotten. My experience was basically the same as ten years ago: a pain in the ass.

I will say it’s working great now though.

Vrijgezelopkamers , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10
@Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world avatar

It’s so desperate.

NOOBMASTER , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

switch to Bing

uglyduckling81 ,

This is the way

NoisyFlake , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

I’d like to mention Windows 10 LTSC here. It’s an official Windows 10 Edition from Microsoft, designed for enterprise and embedded usage. Therefore it has no bloatware, no annoying feature updates, no ads and only the absolute minimum of telemetry. If you don’t like Windows but somehow have to use it, this might be the right choice for you.

sab ,

Out of curiosity, except obviously people who don't use Windows, who would it be the wrong choice for?

Espi ,

If you use modern hardware it doesn't behave quite well and gets worse battery life. If you use any tools from Microsoft (WSL, Office, Windows Terminal, etc) most of those are incompatible or a pain to install. If you use anything from the Microsoft Store, including Game Pass, since it just doesn't include the Microsoft Store.

sab ,

Ooof.

Well, interesting to know. Thanks!

NoisyFlake ,

That’s somewhat wrong. I had no problem installing WSL, Office or Windows Terminal, and they all work fine. The only thing that’s actually a problem is the missing Microsoft Store, but since I’m not using it anyway it doesn’t bother me.

NaibofTabr ,

Doesn’t the Enterprise version require a bulk license agreement?

myersguy , to gaming in Pssst, can I interest you in some free video games?

If I have to have a prime subscription to get the game, it’s not free IMO

Otherwise a great idea!

smeg OP ,

Technically true, though you can start a free trial of Prime and claim all the games, and then (supposedly) they’re still yours to keep after the trial expires. A small hoop to jump through, but it should mean free games!

Hyperreality ,

Depends. Some of the games they give you are on gog. Those you certainly get to keep.

IRC Others are only available as long as you're a prime member.

smeg OP , (edited )

According to the game pages themselves:

Games with Prime are free to collect and can be kept forever.

I’ve not tried cancelling myself, but a quick web search for other people asking this question says yes you do keep them!

HidingCat ,

What, no, absolutely not. In fact I recall the games you get via their launcher don't even have DRM on them. I'll check them again at some point.

gk99 ,

Some definitely do have DRM. I explicitly ended up buying Devil May Cry on Steam despite getting it with Prime because it opened the Twitch launcher every time I tried to play, which messed up Steam Input or whatever I was trying to use at the time.

hogart ,
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

Doesn’t really work if I’ve had a subscription before, or used said free month some time in the past.

Only issue here is to flag it’s on Twitch Prime so everyone has the right expectation.

smeg OP ,

Can you not create a new account with a new (or alias) email? Or do they want phone number, card, or other less-easily-created details?

The Amazon ones are tagged as such, but there are plenty of other providers with less hoops to jump through!

hogart ,
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

I haven’t tried. That’s not for me. I’d rather just buy the game or pirate it. Both are much easier.

Omegamanthethird ,

If I already have a subscription, anything extra is, in practicality, free.

ReversalHatchery ,

You shouldn’t assume that everyone is giving money to that pathetic company

Omegamanthethird ,

You shouldn’t assume that nobody is.

ReversalHatchery ,

I did not. OP did assume that everyone does, by not mentioning that these depend on an active amazon prime subscription.

smeg OP ,

Most of them don’t, and the ones that do are all tagged with [Amazon]. I made no such assumption!

ReversalHatchery ,

That is cool, thanks for the clarification!

gk99 ,

Amazon is a storefront, not the subscription. They actually do give out free stuff once in a blue moon, so just saying [Amazon] is not clarification enough. On reddit, subs like this would say “complimentary with Prime” or something like that.

smeg OP ,

Well if you click on the posts you’ll see that I do state that information in the description, I just don’t overload the title with it

Even_Adder , to technology in How do i stop this kind of pop up from ever appearing again? Win10

Stop using Chrome.

elshandra ,

Also, stop using windows.

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