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lolcatnip , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

The only feature I’m looking forward to is the ability to ungroup multiple instances of the same program in the talk bar. That feature was around forever but for some reason they disabled it in Windows 11.

tfw_no_toiletpaper , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

“a new volume mixer” - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀

SomethingBurger ,

Or make it open when clicking the icon instead of hiding it behind two clicks. Everytime I use Windows, I love KDE more.

prole ,

Same. Switched to Linux (also using KDE) a month or two ago on my personal laptop, and I’ll never go back. Using my work laptop is a daily reminder that I made the right choice.

It feels like this is how using a PC was always supposed to be. Before the profit motive ruined it like it ruins everything.

Toribor ,
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“a new volume mixer” - please just be an interface change and nothing dramatic 👀

Oof. As if the sound settings weren’t already fragmented to all hell.

mojo ,

We heard your feedback and the volume mixer is now controlled exclusively through ChatGPT! Also it’s their ChatGPT so you’re limited to like 20 commands an hour.

sw2de3fr4gt ,

AI powered volume switcher?

TheWildTangler ,

It’s been shown off for months. You click the volume speaker and then a second click will get you to a mixer that almost looks like Ear Trumpet. I’ll probably stick to Ear Trumpet though since it’s just one click

kowcop , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

If I look at what Windows 11 is, its features and the new features, I honestly can’t work out who Microsoft’s target market is anymore.

With the pricing for AI, I can’t even work out which enterprises would consume it.

dustyData ,

Here’s the funny thing. Some enterprise sectors will not use W11 until it has some sysadmin reliable way to disable all the telemetry. In my company W11 and Chrome are banned because they cannot be locked down from phoning home, which is a security liability. No way they’re going to allow a rogue blackbox LLM running wild in our computers.

thisbenzingring ,

You just have to use the Enterprise addition and group policy out their stuff. It isn’t really hard if you have been doing it with Windows 10 but you have to start with the Enterprise addition and that can be $$$

dustyData ,

They explored that option and find it not secure enough. Even with strict group policy settings W11 still misbehaves. We are locked to W10 for the time being, but ICT is not convinced for how long we can keep it.

thisbenzingring ,

they are making excuses, I get to see the firewall data and Win11 isn’t really different from Win10 that hasn’t been cleaned up

The thing is, if you use Office 365 the point is moot and if you use any cloud system, its straight out the door already

netburnr ,
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They get to spy and keep your Corp data if they add ai, it’s a win for MS

1bluepixel , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in
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Still chasing the dream of mainstream Clippy acceptance.

rem26_art ,
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fr tho, MS has been on the digital assistant thing for decades at this point.

MetalJewSolid ,

“Maybe it’ll work this decade”

andthenthreemore ,
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Digital assistants are to Microsoft as Messaging apps are to Google.

sw2de3fr4gt ,

The problem is Cortana or clippy or whatever they call it now sucks. I’ve never found its suggestions to be helpful. Google assistant has been helpful at least once in a while.

greenskye ,

Google now used to be so good. Integration between calendar, email and maps for appointments and travel plans was amazing and I don’t even travel that much. But it just all worked and was legitimately helpful.

No one since has really sat down and tried to figure out ways to speed up or improve a typical users daily routine. They just build little isolated gimmicks that seem cool in an advert, but barely get used in reality.

I hate that everyone wants to build an ecosystem that locks you in and then doesn’t even seem to deliver on the low hanging fruit that being in that ecosystem could accomplish.

arymandias , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

I see you are trying to open the terminal, would you like me to:

A: break your knees

B: kill your entire family

TORFdot0 ,

“I’m sorry but you didn’t supply a valid answer which means that you want both. I will send a contract killer to your house immediately. Would you like to leave feedback on how I did?”

arin ,

Bing search is ran instead

Kingofthezyx ,

“I’m sorry Dave…”

ZILtoid1991 , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in
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How do I install the nVidia drivers on Linux? I asking in case I decide to finally switch (found some Linux DAW, now all is happy, likely will go with Ubuntu + KDE).

iturnedintoanewt ,
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Depends on the distro you choose, but these days it’s nothing too complicated. Either clicking an option for enabling the private driver in the drivers settings, or worse case just running a couple commands to manually add the private driver repo and download the package. You are done in 5 min m

callyral ,
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Not NVidia driver-related, but I would recommend KDE Neon or Kubuntu since they're both KDE and Ubuntu-based, KDE Neon is made by KDE while Kubuntu is an Ubuntu flavor.

rambaroo ,

On Ubuntu it’s just an option during installation. So far that’s the easiest install I’ve seen.

OpenSUSE supports a graphical install through their software manager, but I found it caused some issues so I ended up using the command line. That was actually very easy if you’re not uncomfortable using a terminal. Their docs were also accurate and easy to follow.

On fedora I followed the official docs but their instructions didn’t work, so I had to find some thread on a forum with alternate instructions. It took over an hour to get it working.

For sheer ease of use I would definitely stick to Ubuntu since that’s also the only distro Steam officially supports. I’ve had a good experience with OpenSUSE though so I’m sticking with it.

irmoz ,

If you’re set on Nvidia, I recommend Pop OS or Nobara. Pop has a separate image that preinstalls Nvidia drivers. Nobara has a built in tool to download and install Nvidia drivers on first launch. Of the two, I’d probably go with Nobara (I’ve been using it for a year or so, love it) because not only does it have that tool, it also has an official KDE version, which it sounds like you’d prefer. You could install KDE with Pop, but I’ve done that before, and it creates a bloated nightmare of conflicting apps.

LoafyLemon ,

Pick a distro that ships with Nvidia drivers out of the box. My personal recommendation is Pop OS.

Rustmilian , (edited )
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For the Open Source Nouveau Driver, it’s included in Mesa. You may also need the xf86-video-nouveau driver for 2D acceleration on X11 depending on your hardware. For example anything older than NV50 (G80) would likely need it. Newer GPU’s have seen better results when falling back onto the modesetting driver.

For the Proprietary Drivers, it depends on the distro; most allow you to install them during the installation of the distro (few do it automatically afaik), using a GUI driver manager/detection tool included in some distros or using your package manager.
A distro like fedora however requires extra steps because they’re not included in the official repos.

I hope you find this more informative than “install PopOS or X distro” that includes the proprietary drivers on the installation ISO itself.

PlexSheep ,
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What DAW do you use? I was pretty happy with Bitwig, the only con is that it’s not FOSS.

ZILtoid1991 ,
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I found LMMS, which is perfectly fine for playing around with music. Lacks a few features though unfortunately, like recording at the moment. Not open source, but I also use Reaper, mainly to test MIDI stuff of my game engine through a loopback port on Windows (I'm a crazy person, and I wrote software synthesizers for my game engine).

PlexSheep ,
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LMMS and Reaper weren’t my things. I usually do everything by Terminal, but DAWs I’d where UI is a core necessity. IMO LMMS and Reaper just dont have those. Good that you found a setup through! Music on Linux is definitely getting better, maybe even faster than gaming.

Kcg , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

This type of shit is why i jumped to linux mint recently. Who the hell removed the right click menu options. I’m sure it will be back as a feature.

Viking_Hippie ,

Say what?? Why the fuck would they do that?!

muse , (edited )
@muse@kbin.social avatar

They didn't remove it. Go down to the bottom and choose More Options.

It's bullshit but they're still there

Nfntordr ,

Old context menu is still there. Need to do a regedit to make it default again.

OsrsNeedsF2P , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

I actually spoke with one of the people on the team for this the other week.

They have significant money problems. Copilot is expensive as crap to run, and this is about to make the situation 10x worse.

(Also this feature was completely broken a few weeks ago, so I’d be surprised if it launches without a hitch)

prole ,

They have significant money problems.

Who is “they” here? Microsoft?

I think they’re doing just fine financially.

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

The particular team is burning money to run Copilot, and this new feature will burn money faster. Microsoft is mega profitable and happy to do this in the short-term, but they’re banking on a better solution in the long run.

I also specifically asked if Copilot was nerfed, and all the employee said was (paraphrasing): “Some people have run benchmarks and found it is worse than a year ago”

TheWildTangler ,

It’s GPT itself that’s shittier. All of these cloud AI platforms are very expensive to run. These are both well-known and you definitely didn’t have to talk to “Microsoft” to make that conclusion.

LinusWorks4Mo , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in
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haha, Windows

n3cr0 , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

Who would even create rar archives these days, when there is 7zip?

EyesEyesBaby ,

Everybody using usenet.

ZILtoid1991 ,
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Memesters, because WinRAR is a negware type of shareware (having an unlimited trial period), which constitutes as being "the good guy".

TheWildTangler ,

Okay but 7zip can open and create .rar archives so why would anyone ever use WinRAR

ZILtoid1991 ,
@ZILtoid1991@kbin.social avatar

Don't try to understand memesters. I once installed one 7zip instead of WinRAR, and he installed the latter because "it's free, you just have to click the button and wait a little bit". It was even worse with the uTorrent vs. qBitTorrent situation, where the former is a de-facto spyware/adware, but the latter isn't in piracy memes.

vanontom , (edited )
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People using WinRAR. “Why would people use WinRAR?” It has more features than 7zip (password, encryption, profile presets especially).

If you’re asking why Microsoft would include it as a format for their extremely basic compression tool built into Explorer… why not, it’s one of the top three formats.

elephantium ,
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more features than 7zip (password, encryption,

Eh? 7zip supports these.

profile presets

I have to admit, I’m not familiar with this feature.

vanontom ,
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What I mean is more options for those features. The profiles and password tools are especially clever. (Examples: Password organizer can be locked with short master password, great for quickly decrypting archives matching ANY stored password. Profiles can quickly encrypt using specific settings, including super-long saved password without entering it.)

SnipingNinja ,

But that’s WinRAR not rar file format, no?

elephantium ,
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Ah, I see what you mean. 7zip’s password support looks pretty simple in comparison.

avater , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in
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can I move the taskbar now to another, non-main, screen? If not fuck off with your AI nonsense.

ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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I’ve been waiting to move my fucking taskbar forever.

lazynooblet ,
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StartAllBack is a low cost method to fix the task bar.

avater , (edited )
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I won’t use another software to enable a feature that was standart in older windows versions. My computer is fairly clean, will stay clean and is only used for gaming so it has nothing else than drivers, launchers like steam and gog and the games installed.

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  • lazynooblet ,
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    It is $2, its hardly a huge investment.

    lolcatnip ,

    To a Russian developer, too. I found that out when my transaction didn’t go through.

    WhyYesZoidberg ,

    Started a new job 4 months ago. First time using a windows desktop since windows 2000. Have multi screens always sucked this bad? You never know on what screen a launched window will appear.

    How can people work like this?

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
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    They have not sucked this bad, no.

    avater ,
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    to be fair my macbook pro I use for working has the same problems. If I connect it to my dual screen setup at home it always forgets which screen contained which window…sometimes it even forgets which wallpaper I have set up. Multiple screens seem to be a huge challenge for modern operating systems…

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  • WhyYesZoidberg ,

    still run xorg. predictable and stable. Win11 multi monitor is a lottery. so is audio. have music playing and then join a teams meeting? sorry there’s a problem with your audio and you need to reboot

    fuuucking hell

    dustyData ,

    Wayland is not ready, 99% of Linux apps don’t run on Wayland. XWayland doesn’t count.

    SauceFlexr ,

    That’s interesting. Windows 11 is the best multi monitor version of windows ever, in my experience. It “remembers” where apps were last used opens them there. While not perfect, I find it great that it handles more than one multiple monitor setup. I have 3 monitors at home and 2 at the office. I just plug in and they are always in the same alignment. Given how bad it was in previous versions, I’m impressed.

    obinice ,
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    I love the part where it remembers what screen an application was last launched on, even if that screen is no longer connected, so the window is completely missing with no visible way to get it back 😅

    But yes, I find multiple monitor stuff to mostly be good in Win11 I agree!

    Though it’s sorely missing a feature Win10 had that I find really, REALLY annoying. My monitors aren’t the same resolution, so when I move my mouse from one of a higher resolution to a lower one, if the mouse is near the top of the screen as it often is, it will literally get stuck on the edge of the screen, because the next screen technically has no pixels that high up 🤦‍♀️

    So I then have to move the mouse down an inch or two to get it to be allowed to move to the next screen. Incredibly infuriating, and a problem that was solved in previous versions of Windows (which would just helpfully move your mouse to the top of the neighbouring screen, as you’d intuitively want).

    hubobes ,

    When I still had monitors with different resolutions I used an app called cursr.app to fix that. Or at least I think that is your issue…

    SauceFlexr ,

    I usually move the monitors around, the move my mouse to test it, until I avoid that, as perfectly aligning then with different resolutions doesn’t work. But yeah, totally know what you’re saying.

    elephantium ,
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    When the invisible app window happens, you can use the windows key + arrow keys to move the current window around.

    Agreed about the mouse thing being infuriating. I match my display resolutions to avoid it.

    OskarAxolotl ,

    I have been using a multi-monitor setup for years and never had any issues. Windows will usually appear on the screen you closed them on.

    mojo ,

    We just haven’t advanced technology to that stage yet. Big ask.

    avater ,
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    we had it in windows 7, 8, Vista, 10

    andrew_bidlaw ,

    This ancient technology is long lost by now. Pictures on clay plates is not how we are used to read comments in code now.

    matcherock , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

    Im so happy I uninstalled W11 and installed W10 LTSC

    GigglyBobble ,

    I'm so happy I replaced Win 10 with Linux and now can watch this dumpster fire from afar.

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  • Vlyn ,

    Most laptops are “made for Windows”, but they run Ubuntu just fine. It’s highly unlikely that wifi isn’t working out of the box nowadays.

    So the only reason not to switch would be if you have certain applications that only work on Windows.

    rambaroo ,

    This person just stated it wasn’t a pleasant experience for them, you’re not going to magically change that by trying to argue it away.

    dustyData ,

    Dual booting is never a pleasant experience, because Windows is a bitch that fights and breaks the bootloader at every opportunity it can to claim superiority over the computer. But deleting Windows and just running Linux is a perfectly viable and pleasant option.

    admin ,
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    It definitely used to, but I have been using my laptop with dual boot Ubuntu / windows 10 since last years summer (using either several times per week, and keeping up with all the updates), and not once did the bootloader break.

    My biggest problem was chasing down the windows drivers, but after that it was golden.

    GigglyBobble ,

    Oh, I'm stuck with Windows at work myself. It's even more painful if you know what the user experience could be.

    plactagonic ,

    I got hands on w11 after 3 years on Linux and didn’t know what to do - it was some home edition and I couldn’t find what I want in the amount of unwanted apps.

    Btw it was fresh install.

    const_void ,

    Windows 11 has preinstalled TikTok. It’s so fucking bad.

    asexualchangeling , (edited )

    technically it’s not preinstalled, just an ad that installs it if you click it

    Not that that makes it better

    Signed: someone who left windows for linux approaching 2 years ago

    riodoro1 , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in

    Oh, another system wide crapware that nobody is going to use.

    FireWire400 ,
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    They might as well call it Cortana AI

    altima_neo , to technology in Microsoft’s big Windows 11 update drops on September 26 with Copilot AI baked in
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    Going off of Dave Plummer’s video, looks like copilot is kind of a wash. It has the potential to do some neat stuff on desktop, but its crappily shoehorned into the OS instead.

    ObviouslyNotBanana ,
    @ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

    Hoping they’ve made it better since

    Kerfuffle ,

    This time you’re going to love Cortana. For reals!

    REdOG ,
    @REdOG@lemmy.world avatar

    With love,

    Clippy.

    rambaroo ,

    Every tech company is pulling this stupid bullshit now. Mine is also trying to find any way they can to shoehorn an LLM into their product. It’s marketing BS

    TimeSquirrel ,
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    Underpants gnomes economics.

    1. Integrate AI into everything, even where it doesn't make any damn sense.
    2. ???
    3. Profit.
    Skanky ,

    Isn’t this exactly how Skynet was created?

    Toribor , to technology in Yelp has a wall of shame for businesses caught paying for fake reviews
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    I assume they want you to pay THEM for positive reviews, not someone else. Yelp sucks.

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