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l0v9ZU5Z , to technology in Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it | Engadget

Actual legal risks and consequences don’t go away by applying wishful thinking.

deFrisselle ,
@deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Which are what

CanadaPlus ,

Yeah, is this guy living in China?

ErgodicTangle ,

I am not sure what he’s hinting at. Just using Tor doesn’t bear any legal risks. Hosting an exit node is different, as depending on the country you might get into serious trouble if certain traffic goes through it.

TWeaK ,

Yes exactly, and I think there have been stories recently where the exit node host has been held liable for content that’s gone through it.Which is complete bullshit, but the unfortunate reality is that the legal system doesn’t need to understand technology to regulate it.

jarfil ,

It’s not bullshit. If A has proof your system launched an attack, or sent CSAM, to another system, but your only defense is “I let anyone use my system in that way”, then at the very least you’re an accomplice.

TWeaK ,

It is bullshit, because it puts the onus of policing everything on any service provider. If a TOR exit node provider is responsible for all traffic through their node, then an ISP is responsible for all traffic through them to their users - yet it is not reasonable for ISP’s to do this. Nor should it be acceptable by law and even less so if the purpose is for law enforcement to bypass the warrant system by having private parties do the investigation for them.

jarfil ,

Well, the law enforcement ship has sailed a long time ago, it’s more of a flotilla by now. Data communication service providers (including ISPs) have some customer identification and data retention requirements in exchange for immunity from the data itself, but otherwise —reasonabke or not— there are more and more traffic policing laws that get introduced for ISPs to abide. By starting a Tor Exit node, you become a service provider, and the same laws start to apply.

It’s no joke that we live in a surveillance state, just that some go “full surveillance” like China, while others go “slightly less in-your-face surveillance” like the US/EU.

jlou ,

Would it be possible to allow exit nodes to blacklist specific kinds of traffic and somehow privately verify that the traffic is not one of the blacklisted kinds (zero knowledge proof perhaps sorry not a CS person)?

jarfil , (edited )

An exit node can put in place any filters, blacklists, mitm, exploit injection, logging, and anything else it wants… on unencrypted traffic. Using HTTPS through an exit node, limits all of that to the destination of the traffic, there is no way to get a ZK proof of all the kinds of possible traffic and contents that can exist.

jlou ,

What I meant was blacklisting certain destinations. It obviously wouldn't prevent all malicious traffic

Quexotic ,

To give you an idea, last time I used Tor, I suddenly started to get a bunch of connection attempts from the FBI. Was I doing anything illegal? Nope. Was TOR a legal liability? You betcha.

xvlc ,

Connection attempts from the FBI? Could you specify that a bit further?

Quexotic ,

I was using peerblock and one of the blocklists contained known governmental IP addresses. Those blocked connections began quickly filling the logs.

Spooked the crap outta me. It’s been a few years since I did that, so I could have that detail wrong. I know it was for sure one of the three letter acronyms, DOD, FBI, CIA, but they were definitely incoming.

xvlc ,

That does not sound plausible to me. Typically, your own computer would be behind a router that is either doing NAT or has a firewall (probably the former). Any incoming traffic would be directed to the router without any chance of reaching your computer. Whatever you saw was either outgoing traffic or incoming traffic in response to connections initiated by your own computer.

Quexotic ,

Consider this, the Tor software was accepting connections from government IPs.

Regardless of whether it was active intrusion or a significant portion of the Tor network, (at that time) had a number of governmental IP ranges in it, It’s enough to dissuade my use, at least without more significant OpSec.

I do understand your point though.

Eggyhead ,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

I suddenly started to get a bunch of connection attempts from the FBI.

How can I observe connection attempts like this?

Quexotic ,

I use peerblock and had some good blocklists set up. The hardest part should be finding peerblock or a more modern fork, the blocklists are mostly public. Helps keep from connecting to known bad actors.

RampantParanoia2365 , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Everyone should start talking about CSI incessantly.

tobogganablaze ,

Las Vegas or Miami?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

CSI Gender. It’s a spinoff taking place in the town of Gender, New Mexico.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Lol, perfect.

TalesOfTrees , to technology in Roku suffered another data breach, this time affecting 576,000 accounts

I’m thankful Roku has had data breaches. Mostly because I have a Roku TV that was somehow compromised and now, even after a couple of years and several full factory resets, whoever used my throwaway account signed up for all the streaming services at the highest tier. Hard to be mad when I havent had to pay for anything.

And no, before anyone says anything, it’s not putting my home network at risk, as it’s just the Roku account that’s compromised. Nothing tied to me personally, not even a card/address on the account, so I just chalk it up to “as long as it keeps working, Im not worrying about it”.

skankhunt42 ,
@skankhunt42@lemmy.ca avatar

My account is with mailinator (free throwaway email) and I’m hopeful someone does this for me. That sounds quite nice.

TalesOfTrees ,

I used to blame my cousin, as she has a raging drug addiction and does shady crap like steal people’s credit cards/checks and it was only after she had been over that I had noticed. But nope, still going despite time and resets. If I knew a way of pulling login info off the TV, I’d probably share it, because hell, why not.

Ghostalmedia OP ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

But it’s probably using a stolen CC. I wouldn’t feel too great about using someone else’s credit card without their knowledge. I’d report it and try to get the card suspended.

Ghostalmedia OP ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Free stuff is great and all, but I imagine they’re using a stolen CC to pay for those subscriptions and they’re exploiting someone who’s not great at paying attention to their credit card bill.

You may want to report it so that someone isn’t getting fucked over.

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

Do not report it, Roku won’t investigate financial fraud, but they will kick you out.

Ghostalmedia OP ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

They will boot your account if you contact CS and say “my account has been compromised?”

nxdefiant ,

At worst, they might cancel the subscriptions. I imagine trying to give the money back (get the charges reversed) is the labor intensive part.

Ghostalmedia OP ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly. Having been on the CS side of the house for stuff like this, I can’t imagine they would penalize the customer for coming forward. Customer service ain’t got time for that. They’re going to remove the card, reset the password, and maybe report the card.

Taking money from someone else’s bank account is a shitty thing to do. I don’t know why anyone here would be in support of not reporting this.

ZambiblasianOgre , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

Absolute cunts

carl_dungeon , to technology in Alex Jones and his conspiracy theories are allowed back on X

Is anyone even using x? What a shit hole

nevetsg ,

It is the only social media I can still view only those I follow and in chronological order. I don’t like the algorithms. I re-followed Elon for about 12 hours the other day. Then I remembered why I unfollowed.

100_kg_90_de_belin ,

My account has been silent since Musk bought Twitter. I’ve to muster the courage to ask my mutuals to follow me on another platform or exchange Telegram handles.

sundrei , to technology in An NYPD security robot will be patrolling the Times Square subway station
@sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

All the things the cops would want this bot to do are prohibited by rules or by the potential for public outrage; no facial recognition, no offensive capabilities, it’s basically just a camera drone. But that will change when the rules change, or when people stop paying attention… if this thing can avoid being trashed for more then ten minutes after it’s deployed.

Whatsit_Tooya ,

Yeah I’m waiting for the article about it being pushed onto the tracks.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Hopefully within the first week.

RedEyeFlightControl ,
@RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world avatar

This was my first thought, too. This thing is gonna get hit by a train.

reverendsteveii ,

prohibited by the potential for public outrage

Give it a minute little frogs, this is them initially turning the burner on under the pot. It’s gonna get warmer.

Buffalox , (edited ) to technology in Unity temporarily closes offices amid death threats following contentious pricing changes

Starting on January 1, developers will be charged a fee every time someone installs a game built in Unity after they reach certain revenue or install thresholds.

Obviously death threats are not ok, but for fucks sake, that change is insane. People may install games many times for many reasons, like switching drives, computer, OS or debugging, or corruption, or because they go back to it after not playing for a while.

How is it a good model to charge for repeated installs?

The decision sparked an astonishing backlash against Unity from across the gaming industry,

I bet, this will threaten some people on their livelihood, and if you are 90% finished on a project, it’s an insane change that will force you to switch to another engine, and could kill several projects.

Also as a user, this increases the need and amount of DRM mechanics, which we need less not more of.

I hope Unity will see a massive dive in customers on these policies. This is the kind of decision a company deserves bankruptcy for. And the CEO John Riccitiello deserves to be fired without benefits, and never hired as CEO again.

Edit PS:

The fee is up to $0.20, that’s steep and would mean the end of sub $10 games. This would hurt single and indie developers very much.

Luckily there are other engines, but Unity used to be among the good ones, now they’ve become an untrustworthy player, and that decreases competition for the entire field.

HawlSera ,

This is why we cannot let monopolies control the internet. Between twitter, reddit, and unity…

EnglishMobster ,

Unreal is much more entrenched than Unity is. At the AAA level, more places hire Unreal devs than Unity devs.

Unity is popular with indies because it’s dead simple (Unreal is a complex monster of an engine). But even Unreal doesn’t have a monopoly, between things like Source, Lumberyard (which is now FOSS and run by the Linux Foundation), etc. Not to mention you can always roll your own engine, which many places already have.

darkevilmac , to technology in Apple reportedly has plans for a thinner iPhone, MacBook Pro and Apple Watch
@darkevilmac@lemmy.zip avatar

I feel like we’re just going backwards, we stopped caring about tech getting thin enough to act like a blade like a decade ago.

Why are we doing this again?

pumpkinseedoil ,

Breaks easier, better for the company

Snapz , to technology in Humane is said to be seeking a $1 billion buyout after only 10,000 orders of its terrible AI Pin

How do you actually get the oil from the snake though?

Skymt ,

Turn them into bovine fodder, then get the oil from the bullshit.

exanime , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

Tired of hearing about Xhitter… Stop posting every excruciating minutiae about it and let it die already

mightyfoolish ,

I agree with you but we both know it’s not going to stop. We need a mostodon instance to get world famous.

Luisp , to news in X now treats the term cisgender as a slur

So it’s a gay-only platform now?

CluckN ,

It always has been?

Luisp ,

No women allowed club, only bros

T00l_shed ,

Hmmm sounds a little… gay…

lolcatnip ,

Huh? How do you figure?

Honytawk ,

Because cis people are banned

lolcatnip ,

Um…what do you think cis means?

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

Gay until proven otherwise

Lemminary , to technology in Huawei has been secretly funding research in America after being blacklisted

Shady shit from a spyware company? I’m shocked.

altima_neo , to technology in PlayStation is laying off 900 staff across Naughty Dog, Insomniac and other studios
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I feel like every company is taking advantage of the mass layoffs going on everywhere, which lets their own layoffs get lost in the news of endless layoffs. I think theyre simply laying off staff just to save on labor costs.

LordTrychon ,

I’ve been saying the same thing for a while. Same with the massive waves of ‘inflation’ and enshittification.

Boiglenoight ,

Isn’t it one of the quickest ways to increase profits in the short term? If they’re not essential and you have a quarterly profit report coming up…

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Yeah. Corporate at my work is always looking to keep labor costs at a minimum because its “easy to control”. Yeah, it saves money, but it’s so damned shortsighted.

pastaPersona , to technology in Google Search is losing its 'cached' web page feature

In a shocking turn of events, google decided once again to make their namesake service worse for everyone.

Legitimately baffling, keeping this feature doesn’t really seem like it would impact anyone except those that use it, while removing it not only impacts those people that already use it, but those who would potentially have reason to in the future.

Cannot think of a single benefit to removing a feature like this.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

It is only baffling if you still think that Google’s aim is to help people. At one point they were trying to gain market share and so that was true. It is not anymore.

_number8_ ,

ostensibly it takes a lot of space to cache that much data, but seeing as they own youtube this should be nothing in comparison

Emerald ,

i would guess they have it cached still anyways.

Ookami38 , to technology in Inside the 'arms race' between YouTube and ad blockers / Against all odds, open source hackers keep outfoxing one of the wealthiest companies.

“against all odds” my left asshole. This is always the way of hacker vs defense, it’s always an arms race and the attacking side always has the advantage.

dosaki ,

How many assholes do you have?

Dempf ,

A left one and a right one.

Ookami38 ,

And a center one. Well, that’s what I call myself. The central asshole.

RazorsLedge ,

Not really. There are lots of protocols and such that haven’t been broken in any meaningful ways. Attackers have advantage is a weird thing to say.

Ookami38 ,

Defense is always playing reactive. Attack gets to be creative and figure out how to break whatever tools defense has. Defense has to wait until the vulnerability is found and then deal with it. It’s the nature of the arms race with regards to cyber security.

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