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bouh , to til in TIL about Swatch Internet Time, a decimal time system that has no time zones.

It’s stupid to remove timezone.

King OP ,
@King@lemy.lol avatar

Why?

CrayonRosary , (edited )

No it’s not. Time zones are a source of incredible confusion for programmers and are the cause of countless computer bugs that affect billions of people.

If we all used UTC time, you’d get used to it. You’d simply get up at xx:00 and have lunch at yy:00, etc. The numbers we use now (like 6 or 12) are completely arbitrary. You would get used to your day cycle using different numbers and the next generation would think literally nothing of it.

MTK ,

I get your logic but no amount of bugs will ever be enough to justify making the entire world change their idea of time.

AdmiralShat ,

I mean

The world has done it before, several times.

CrayonRosary ,

Sure, OK. Changing standards has never ever happened before.

uranibaba ,

It would be a mess talking to anyone about time where you do not live.

Say that you wake up at 06:00, everyone understands. Remove all time zones and now you wake up at 14:53. Anyone not native to your location would have no clue where in the sky the sun is relative to you and what that actually means for your day.

Would 14:53 for you post removal be compared to 06:00 or 09:00 pre removal? What if oyu are porned post removal and do not have the frame of reference for the old system. How would you go about it then?

I can see the merit in keeping time zones.

xradeon ,

Could you imagine traveling without time zones? It would be actual hell.

Normally you wake up at 1300, but then you travel to japan, you don’t know when they wake up. So maybe you ask the hotel staff or maybe people will start putting signs up “Japan wakes up at 0300”. I mean it’s cool you don’t need to change your watch or wait for your phone time to update when the plane lands, but how do you know when lunch is? When do you go to sleep? If a meeting you’re having is at 1000, is that way late in the day meeting? Or is that a super early meeting and maybe you should get to bed early the night before. You would have no clue unless you do it on the regular.

Now, you could just download an app that tells you what time it is where you’re at currently relative to what you normally use (so in Japan while they think it’s 0300, your phone says 1300) so this would make these way easier for you since all the times are just normal. Every time you move around you just tell the app where you’re at and it adjusts the time is displays annnndddd…oh wait I just re-invited time zones.

bouh ,

So because programmers are lazy and stupid we should change how people live?

FooBarrington ,

I’d be with you if they were static - but the current situation of timezones that change regularly is a nightmare.

bouh ,

Are you talking about winter time vs summer time? Then it’s a whole other matter, completely irrelevant to timezones.

FooBarrington ,

No, I’m talking about timezones themselves changing. Countries regularly change details about timezones.

bouh ,

That’s still not a technical problem.

FooBarrington ,
  1. How is it not a technical problem? It sure as hell has been a problem for me more than once when implementing things, especially once timezone definitions between two systems drift apart.
  2. Why does it matter whether it’s a technical problem? Neither you nor I have been talking about technical problems thus far.
bouh ,

Solving technical problem is what an engineer does. Asking people to do things differently so that the engineer doesn’t have to solve the problem is what exactly?

FooBarrington ,

In that case, why don’t we switch up timezones every day? Make it even harder for engineers. More problems = more technical solutions, right?

I don’t see how your point makes any sense.

bouh ,

Timezone make sense because it makes time mean something in real life. Midday is the time when you lunch, and the middle of the day. 7 or 8 pm is the evening, you get your dinner. Etc. Time is a tool used by people because it’s useful.

Now you are an engineer and you need to deal with timezones. Well, fucking do your job I’d say.

The problem with programmer is that they always try to change user habits rather than simply doing their job.

FooBarrington ,

Did I say we should remove timezones? What are you arguing against?

Tramort , (edited )

Why?

Their value is so that we all can imagine what the sky looks like when we say “seven am”.

But why is that important?

bouh ,

Because it’s what make the time have a meaning. The time when you eat, when you go to sleep or wake up, when you go to work,…

In fact, you’re looking at it the wrong way. The time is localised because that’s how it make sense for people. And that’s how it make sense for physics too. Relativity means each place has its own time.

The question should be why do you want to change this?

Gray , to til in TIL Kowloon Walled City existed and is the real world origin for many visual representations of oppressive urbanization in cyberpunk media
@Gray@lemmy.ca avatar

I most recently encountered this fact from the game, Stray! You know, the recent game with the cat and all the robots. Apparently their city design was heavily inspired by the Kowloon Walled City.

Dodgeit ,
@Dodgeit@lemmy.ca avatar

Absolutely love Stray. The world design was fantastic

another_kbin_addict ,

Apparently it was inspired by Kowloon walled city!

Dodgeit ,
@Dodgeit@lemmy.ca avatar

Oh wow, TIL!

taggart_mccallister , to til in TIL about exploding head syndrome, which causes patients to hear a loud, frightening noise when falling asleep or waking up. Up to 10% of people may have it, but cases often go undiagnosed

Wow! Now I have a cool name to this phenomenon. Doesn’t happen every night and there are also times I can ignore it because it’s typically not scary, just disruptive. I also see the flashes of light and that can be scary sometimes. I’ll think somebody tried to come in while I’m sleeping or that a nuclear bomb just went off. Or that a cosmic ray hit my eyeball.

Now, is there a phenomenon about seeing random faces in my head while falling asleep as well?

CyanFen ,

I used to have all this as a chronic weed user, if you’re the same maybe try stopping and see if they go away. The only one I still have is the flashing lights, but it’s rarer.

SidewaysHighways ,

Haha that’s what I couldn’t ever narrow down (I guess cause I don’t quit long enough usually)

Rinna ,
@Rinna@lemm.ee avatar

Hypnagogic hallucinations

Treczoks , to fediverse in Today is the 11,067th day of Eternal September

In case you young whippersnappers have no clue what is so special about September:

Back then, the internet (and usenet, bitnet, talk) community had been nearly 100% academic. No idiots, no stupid loudmouths, no antivax moms, no politicians. Each September was an inflow of new students accessing the net for the first time, and it was up to the existing population to educate the newbies on things like netiquette and overall good behavior. People learned to use free and open services without abusing them. Back then, those newbies were usually quick to learn, so any problem arising from people who might cause issues usually was over within a few weeks.

Then, The Flood came. The Eternal September began. The time where AOL disks were so common that people used them as coasters. The Internet and all the services on it never were the same again. The existing netizens were no longer capable to educate new users on proper, civilized behavior, and usenet posts solely consisting of text like "me too" became common. It went downhill from there. Formerly open services closed up because of unmitigated abuse. One day, even lawyers invaded the net, people despicable things like Sanford Wallace, for example. You newbies today cannot imagine a time like it was before criminals like him invaded this space.

MajorHavoc ,

As part of the eternal September myself, we didn’t just use AOL disks as coasters, we used them for awesome pranks like filling eachother’s cars to the brim with them. It was truly astonishing how many of those disks were around.

Bitrot , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

Belgian techno anthem Pump Up the Jam by Technotronic is one for the ages. Some say it has always been with us.

Tiltinyall ,

Good one, I kinda thought Salt-n-Pepa’s Push It had a little more staying power though.

uid0gid0 ,

Get your booty on the floor tonight, make my day

Jordan117 , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

Here Comes the Sun. Simple melody, timeless lyrics, and it’s the most-streamed Beatles song out of an already strong and memorable catalog.

mindbleach ,

Fittingly similar to the theme of “Sumer Is Icumen In,” a British round from the late 1200s.

MrFappy ,

I hate that song, it makes me sad as fuck every time I hear it, and if I never heard that song again in my life it’d be a better one.

Reddfugee42 ,
TheRealKuni ,

Why does it make you sad?

MrFappy ,

Something about it just ruins my mood. I think it’s linked to how my parents put that song over old home videos and as a kid I would watch them and just ball uncontrollably at the loss of such simpler times (when you’re a baby and don’t have to worry about shit, you’re just cared for and loved).

clever_banana , to til in TIL about Swatch Internet Time, a decimal time system that has no time zones.
@clever_banana@lemmy.today avatar

Alcoholics hate this (its not 5:00 somewhere)

lemming741 ,

But for that one magical moment, it’s @5.00 everywhere

Klanky , to til in TIL in 1893, the US Supreme Court held 9–0 that the tomato should be classified as a vegetable rather than a fruit in Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304, for purposes
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

As someone who works with classifying goods imported into the US under the Harmonized Tariff System, this is super interesting. I’ll have to do some research to see if Customs still uses this rationale. Thanks for posting!

zorro ,

Let us know what you find. Something tells me this is a factoid that will stick in my head forever and I must have updated information.

Klanky , (edited )
@Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yep, fresh tomatoes fall under chapter 7 of the HTS - “Edible vegetables and certain roots and tubers”. Pretty much every country uses the first six digits of the HTS code, so at some point the WCO (World Customs Organization - the ones who manage the HTS) agreed with that idea.

Also, in their Explanatory Notes for chapter 7, they say this:

" In headings 07.09, 07.10, 07.11 and 07.12 the word “vegetables” includes edible mushrooms, truffles, olives, capers, marrows, pumpkins, aubergines, sweet corn (Zea mays var. saccharata), fruits of the genus Capsicum or of the genus Pimenta, fennel, parsley, chervil, tarragon, cress and sweet marjoram (Majorana hortensis orOriganum majorana)."

bionicjoey ,

Fun fact: the word “factoid” implies the thing is not a fact, but something which shares some similar properties to a fact. In the same way that a football is a “spheroid” or a cinderblock is a “cuboid”

paradiso ,

I’m a humanoid

zorro ,

Oh how interesting. My mental dictionary had factoid as some sort of trivial fact

Aatube OP ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

dictionary-toid*

Sadbutdru ,

That is the more common modern usage. I believe ‘factoid’ was originally used to mean a pseudo fact, or falsehood presented as a fact, but that usage is rarely found today.

Usernameblankface , to technology in Wikipedia Admin Unmasks As Alt Account Of Admin Who Was Extremely Banned In 2015 To The Great Bewilderment Of Everyone
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

Is it the same person who runs awkwardtheturtle account?

Sorry to anyone who had their PTSD triggered by seeing that username

OldWoodFrame ,

Everybody who isn’t you, is Unidan.

Excrubulent , (edited )
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

You just reminded me that everyone on reddit is a bot. Which… is getting closer to the actual truth these days.

SARGEx117 ,

Here’s the thing…

Solarius ,

I’ve had personal experience dealing with them and they’re by far the worst and most narcissistic individual I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

What’s their deal? I never paid much mind to that whole side of reddit when I was on there. They just modded a bunch of subs or something right?

Usernameblankface , (edited )
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

They modded several subs, including r/advice and /offmychest. They were incredibly touchy and prone to calling people stupid for not understanding their convoluted rules. I got banned for responding to a post that they deemed to be on the wrong sub. They didn’t have time to create a copy-paste to redirect people to what they thought was a more appropriate sub, but they did have time to write individual replies about how stupid I am and how I should have learned (not to question them, I guess?)

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

Yikes, that’s peak reddit right there

monsieur_jean ,

Makes me think, how many fediverse accounts has awkwardtheturtle created yet? How many instances are run on his servers? :D

sour ,
@sour@kbin.social avatar

does awkwardtheturtle know about the fediverse

frickineh ,

Are there enough of us here to give them the attention/drama they clearly crave?

pouines , to technology in NTFS turns 30 years old today! I hear it's still in use by some crufty old legacy operating systems 😁

I read « NFTs turns 30 yo ». Definitely need an exorcism.

drasticpotatoes ,

I did as well. Time to find some mind bleach.

delirious_owl , to til in TIL North Koreans cannot go to Japan
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

P sure they cant go anywhere

theworstshepard ,

There’s a lot of North Korean people in China. From what I heard, it’s not for having a good time

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Are you referring to dead bodies in the Gobi desert?

theworstshepard ,

I was referring to the effective slave labour in Chinese factories

roguetrick , to til in TIL that player behaviors to a software bug that created a pandemic in World of Warcraft had similarities to COVID-19 in the real world

Precautions were actually very effective for healthcare workers in COVID-19, believe it or not. I wore an n-95 as a COVID nurse with very sick patients and was coughed all over and never caught COVID until I went to a county fair without a mask while vaccinated. Most of my fellow nurses caught it from community spread and not hospital spread as well. This is closer to Ebola.

roguetrick , to til in TIL Peter Molyneux failed his first game so badly he started a baked bean export company, which got confused with a software firm and kickstarted his development career

A long and storied career in running cons. He obviously went to Amiga first.

dbilitated OP ,
@dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

honestly the only thing that makes sense

PeepinGoodArgs , to til in TIL about exploding head syndrome, which causes patients to hear a loud, frightening noise when falling asleep or waking up. Up to 10% of people may have it, but cases often go undiagnosed

I’ve had this! Idk why they’d call it the exploding head syndrome, but it sounded like a door shutting really loudly

xamirozar ,

I hear door slams now and then too

Rai ,

Not for me, oh dear. It’s a legit BOOOOOM

Drusas ,

For me, it generally sounds like something crashing to the ground.

JargonWagon ,

The couple of times I had it, it sounded like a car crash right outside my window.

ettyblatant ,
@ettyblatant@lemmy.world avatar

Me too!!! It sucks especially because I live on a busy road :(

nailbar ,

I’ve had the door sound too a few times

Corkyskog ,

Mine goes ShhhhshhiINNKK!!! Starts kind of static like and within the same second makes a sound like if you flicked a really thin glass really hard, but with a metallic finish. I also see a flash of purple/green/silver color on my eyelids when it happens.

Really difficult to describe.

Owljfien , to til in TIL Peter Molyneux failed his first game so badly he started a baked bean export company, which got confused with a software firm and kickstarted his development career

I feel lucky that I played fable games as a kid and never heard of this dude so I just saw the games for what they were, no inkling of any broken promises to taint what were actually good games

GONADS125 ,

The first game was incredible, but I thought the series went the way of the original Jurassic Park trilogy, where each subsequent release in the franchise was worse than the one before.

That’s just my opinion tho.

CasualWindVane ,

I tried playing Fable 2 recently and the motion blur made it literally unplayable. Can’t turn it off either

PraiseTheSoup ,

Fable suffered from the same issues as The Elder Scrolls, with the methodic removal of RPG elements and a general “dumbing down” of game mechanics with each iteration. The 3rd Fable game doesn’t even have an inventory.

HawlSera ,

The I call franchises like that “Highlanders”

Mnemnosyne ,

I found Fable 2 to be the best of the three. Gameplay systems were the most fun, character options the best, etc. The first one frankly had the major issue of gender locked character. Female protagonist should absolutely have been an option in that game.

HawlSera ,

Project Natal/Milo was the grift that impreseed me the most…

Like the big brass balls needed to lie about having made Sentient AI

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