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metaStatic , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.
FlyingSquid OP ,
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THAT’S NOT A REAL PIZZA!

lvxferre ,
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The idea reminds me Roman (as in the city, not the empire) pizza al taglio.

I wonder how they’re baking the dough. A 100m large oven? Roll in, roll out? Multiple separated chunks? Baking it rolled, then unrolling it?

jawa21 ,

A conveyor would make the most sense.

kindenough , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.
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A fruit native to Brazil. We call it "pizza hawaii" in the Netherlands and it's tasty. Ananas, ham and cheese, perfection I say, pizza puritan snobs be damned.

nokturne213 ,

I personally cannot stand pineapple on my pizza (despite wanting to like it). And really do not care what other people put on their food.

BarrierWithAshes ,
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I feel one day people will learn to appreciate Brazilian pizza. We're not in that time yet though.

lvxferre ,
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I’m not too sure if pineapples are native from the lands currently controlled by Brazil, Paraguay, or both. The Amerindians farmed them quite a bit, so they spread even to to a chunk of North America; and the native range of a relative hints me that the genus originated further west.

That’s just a guess though - the point is that nobody knows for sure.

Chickenstalker , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.

Pizza is American. They perfected it and deserves the full credit. Italians can cry with their hands.

RegalPotoo ,
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Describing American pizza and Italian pizza as being the same thing is imperialism

lvxferre ,
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<span style="color:#323232;">Aeneas and his chiefs,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">with fair Iulus, under spreading boughs
</span><span style="color:#323232;">of one great tree made resting-place, and set
</span><span style="color:#323232;">the banquet on. Thin loaves of altar-bread
</span><span style="color:#323232;">along the sward to bear their meats were laid
</span><span style="color:#323232;">(such was the will of Jove), and wilding fruits
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rose heaping high, with Ceres' gift below.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Soon, all things else devoured, their hunger turned
</span><span style="color:#323232;">to taste the scanty bread, which they attacked
</span><span style="color:#323232;">with tooth and nail audacious, and consumed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">both round and square of that predestined leaven.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">“Look, how we eat our tables even!” cried
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Iulus, in a jest.
</span>

This is from a translation of the Aeneid, published in 19 BCE.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/pompeii-pizza-close.jpg

and this is from Pompeii, buried in 79 CE.

Pizza is at the very least Roman, if not older. (Potentially Greek.)

And before someone mentions tomatoes, pizza bianca is a thing.

Stovetop ,

Admittedly it doesn’t take much creative thinking to come up with the idea of “bread with stuff on it”.

It’d be pretty different from what we think of as pizza today though with no tomatoes or mozzarella.

lvxferre ,
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That’s why I mentioned pizza bianca / white pizza - it doesn’t include passata or tomato sauce, but it’s still pizza.

Cheese being added to the pizza is a bit trickier, but I’m tempted to say that the Romans already did this; they were big fans of cheese, and the white stuff in the afresco looks a lot like sheep cheese for me. And, well, cheese melting over hot bread is kind of obvious. Plus there are claims that mozzarella itself backtracks to those times, although it was originally made with sheep milk.

Stovetop ,

Likely not used on pizza though, I’d imagine. But a cheese like feta, which would have been more common, would probably still taste great.

lvxferre ,
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I could also picture them spreading some moretum (crushed cheese with herbs and olive oil, it’s rather tasty) over the dough. The white thing in the afresco is certainly not moretum as the later is green, but frankly that doesn’t sound too far from what I’ve seen people adding to pizza bianca.

southsamurai , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.
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It’s kinda crazy that it took the combined culinary efforts of at least 4 nations to create something genius that would piss off all of those nations.

Also, pineapple on pizza is fucking delicious, and I will fight over that personal opinion being as valid as it sucking :)

CannedTuna ,

Pepperoni, bacon, pineapple, and jalapeño. The ultimate combination of sweet, spicy, salty, and savory.

grabyourmotherskeys ,

You have been awarded the key to the city of Halifax.

Alteon ,

Drizzle a little mango sauce on top, and I’m sold.

ILikeBoobies ,

Mango makes way more sense than pineapple for adding sweetness

pdxfed ,

In the states they never add Jalapenos because of all the WASPS who say things like “this food has too much flavor” so I thought I hated Hawaiian pizza, def will try with Jalapeno.

EvilHankVenture ,

I have lived in several states and I feel like jalapenos are a very common pizza topping in all of them. I have mostly lived in areas with large Hispanic populations though.

jopepa ,

You can get jalapeños in Maine it doesn’t get more WASPy than there.

southsamurai ,
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Word, though I have to go very light on the peppers nowadays lol

Snowpix ,
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Replace the bacon with ham slices and you’ve got my favourite pizza

scottywh ,

This minus the pepperoni is my favorite pizza

NIB ,

In Greece, eating feta cheese with watermelon(or melon) is somewhat common. You combine the sweetness of the watermelon with the saltiness of feta. And both things are cold.

Bumblebb ,

That's common in California, too. Watermelon, feta and a little bit of lime juice is a frequent summer salad.

dylanmorgan ,

In Italy, prosciutto with melon is pretty common. Sweet and savory as a combination is pretty common. See also: sharp cheddar on apple pie.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Sharp cheddar cuts up my mouth something fierce.

grabyourmotherskeys ,

Yup, people who object to Hawaiian Pizza for any reason other than “it’s not for me” don’t really understand food.

cheesymoonshadow ,
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Similar to a fruit bowl with cottage cheese.

southsamurai ,
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Yup, and it’s yummy as hell.

Here in the south, and maybe elsewhere, we sometimes add a nice hunk of extra sharp cheddar on top of our apple pie for the same reason. Heck, any number of fruit plates will be served with cheeses, and vice versa.

Once you get into the sweet, salt, fat, acid combo, it really doesn’t matter what you use to get them.

To quote a great American show, “pork chops and applesauce”. “Hawaiian” pizza is just a different version of the same basic idea

Bumblebb ,

Whats even crazier is the ethnobotanical path to GET those ingredients together.

Tomatoes had to be brought from south america. Bred to grow at lower altitudes. Peasants had to be persuaded to eat them (they were formally animal feed because they were from the nightshade family and peasants didn't trust the fruit not to be poisonous since the leaves are) and then enough time (100 years) had to pass for them to develop cuisine around them.

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

Agreed. It’s amazing. I always spring for pineapple on pizza

Dabundis ,

Pizza is a very fatty, often greasy food, and acidic taste balances out greasiness in the mouth

ILikeBoobies ,

Good thing tomatoes are acidic then

masterspace ,

Not American tomatoes, at least, not in tomato sauce form; they put a tight sugary lid on that.

platypus_plumba ,

It really depends on the quality of the pineapple to me. Sometimes it is dry and it sucks. Sometimes it is kinda melted, which gives a sweet to the pizza without making the texture weird.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Pineapple, Canadian bacon, pepperoni, red onion, and balsamic drizzle. My recent stroke of genius from the local unlimited topping pizza place.

PopMyCop ,

Try red bell pepper with balsamic. I love the combination.

Potatos_are_not_friends , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.

In Japan, there’s Vermont curry, which has a maple-syrup-y taste.

Vermont doesn’t have a state curry.

rustydomino ,
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Yup. You can get it in the USA at Asian grocery stores, and even in some American stores located in areas with large Asian populations. And it’s fucking delicious.

JDubbleu ,

I’m more of a fan of the Japanese Golden curry, but that Vermont curry was way better than I expected.

Orbituary ,
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Omg, yuck. I love curry, but this is insanity.

aubertlone ,

Just fyi, it tastes nothing like maple syrup.

I felt the same way when I heard about it. Made it one night, turns out it is just a very slightly sweeter curry than the normal katsu curry base.

Assman ,
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Came here to say this. I asked myself, “what could be Vermont about curry?” The answer is pretty much nothing. It’s real good tho

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

I’m with you. I grew up eating spicy curry so anything different from that is a weird

Mereo , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.
FlyingSquid OP ,
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Hey, I’m with you. I think it’s awful and that the people who enjoy it should be taken out back and shot.

But I just don’t have the energy to take my wife out back and shoot her.

nokturne213 ,

Imagine getting so worked up over what makes someone else happy.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Do you think I really plan to shoot my wife for liking pineapple on her pizza?

Coreidan ,

I find it hilarious how offended people get over Hawaiian pizza.

Eat what you enjoy. Anyone who has a problem with what food I enjoy can eat me.

petrol_sniff_king ,

I thought it was funny. :p

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Thank you.

MissJinx , to til in TIL that Gavrilo Princip, who assassinated Franz Ferdinand, died of Tuberculosis three years and ten months after the assassination.
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He would have died anyway, so I’m not responsible for his death

CorrodedCranium , to til in TIL that Gavrilo Princip, who assassinated Franz Ferdinand, died of Tuberculosis three years and ten months after the assassination.
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This post reminded me when I first heard about Black Hand I thought it had to do with tuberculosis.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)

HootinNHollerin , to til in TIL: There is a breed of goat that is half black and half white -- The Valais Blackneck goat

It’s milk is used to make the black and white cookie

Drusas , to til in TIL: There is a breed of goat that is half black and half white -- The Valais Blackneck goat

That is one magnificent goat.

Onii-Chan , to til in TIL: There is a breed of goat that is half black and half white -- The Valais Blackneck goat
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Racists hate this simple trick.

Nusm , to til in til Don Pardo worked as announcer on SNL until his death, age 96!

Toward the end, when Pardo wasn’t feeling well, Darrell Hammond would fill in and do such a good impression, that it’s almost impossible to tell when it isn’t really Pardo. After Pardo’s death, Hammond took over the announcing duties full time, but uses his own voice. Everyone agreed that he shouldn’t continue the Pardo impression.

Dagwood222 , to til in til Don Pardo worked as announcer on SNL until his death, age 96!

They wanted him on SNL because the target audience had grown up hearing his voice. It was supposed to be funny, having someone associated with the blandest shows announcing for the degenerate antics of stoners like Belushi and ignorant sluts like Jane Curtain.

southsamurai ,
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Dagwood, you pompous ass.

Dagwood222 ,

youtu.be/c91XUyg9iWM

‘Jane, you ignorant slut,’ was often used by Jane’s costars during the show.

Here’s her typical response.

youtu.be/r29-JkdKDec

southsamurai ,
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Man, I was a little too young to catch the early years of SNL as they aired, but I loved the reruns of those seasons :)

Jane Curtain pretty much defined what weekend update should be

originalucifer OP ,
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im in the middle of watching all of them, im on season 24. its very interesting watching history happen around the show... knowing what was happening off-stage. there are many awkward scenes, some sad.

my favorite moments are the end scenes. the wrapup.. its the end of the night for all of these actors/musicians/comedians/writers theyre all onstage and some clearly exhausted. this exact group of humans will never be together again, ever... here we get to witness what must be a somewhat personal moment for many of them.

they just fired norm, and colin... man he was just terrible for weekend update.

ummthatguy , to til in til Don Pardo worked as announcer on SNL until his death, age 96!
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He also played himself as the announcer in Weird Al’s “I Lost on Jeopardy”

rabiddolphin , to til in til Don Pardo worked as announcer on SNL until his death, age 96!
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That’s job security and what an easy job to do

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