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girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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Kevin Wallace has been showing Trump a series of agreements for loans, which state his business is required to maintain a certain net worth and that his financial statements are “true and correct”.

The documents relate to properties like his hotels in DC and Chicago, and all bear Trump’s signature. By signing those documents, Trump was agreeing to those terms.

We’re getting into the weeds now, but also heading towards the crux of the attorney general’s argument - that Trump submitted misleading financial information to banks to secure favourable loans.

KevonLooney ,

One thing that the average person may not be aware of: knowingly signing a bank document that has false information is punishable by 2 years in federal prison. It’s not punished often, usually bank employees who steal money (and sign documents with incorrect totals) and scam business owners (if you say you run a barbershop to get Covid relief funds, but don’t really have one).

This isn’t a criminal trial but he’s clearly using tactics that scammers use.

UnspecificGravity ,

And his whole defense is that he isn’t literally a murderer and that he totally didn’t need to steal.

And given the chance to elaborate on that position, his own attorneys had no questions at all.

CosmicCleric , to world in Ukraine war: Zelensky says Israel-Gaza conflict taking focus away from fighting
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If you take him at his word, then that implies that Putin and Iran teamed up together to start conflict in Gaza, purposely to reduce support for the Ukraines in their war.

Be really sad if it’s true, as that means people are dying in a war in one part of the world to support a war in another part of the world, a war they have no part in.

Historical_General ,

if it’s true

You’re actually entertaining the idea? lol.

CosmicCleric , (edited )
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You’re actually entertaining the idea? lol.

Vs?

OrteilGenou ,

Letting it be bored?

Sightline ,

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.”

Lemminary ,

If it’s an effective distraction and Putin and Co. have fully taken advantage by increasing their bombings in the interim, and taking into account the state of information warfare, who is to say that they’re not fanning the flames in their favor?

There are clearly degrees to which one conflict can influence another and I wouldn’t put it past the power-hungry politicians to strategize around every opportunity they get.

CosmicCleric ,
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girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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Prosecutors are continuing to go through a series of documents with Trump about several loan agreements, including Trump International Hotel in Chicago.

Kevin Wallace is asking Trump about whether statements of financial condition were included in the loan.

Trump is evading the issue of the financial statements and continuing to talk about how much cash and other assets he has.

girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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And they’re back from lunch.

The line of questioning after lunch has been all about Donald Trump and Deutsche Bank.

The prosecution is highlighting a term loan agreement from 2012, between Trump and the bank.

The agreement said he must maintain a minimum net worth of $2.5bn. Trump says he was aware of this.

Trump says he had about $300-400m in cash at the time. He tells the court that Deutsche Bank wanted to make sure there was substantial cash.

“Yeah I had a lot of cash,” he says. “That’s all they cared about.”

girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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Mitchell Epner, a former federal prosecutor, said that Judge Engoron could have already “taken action” and held Donald Trump in contempt of court for his behaviour during today’s testimony.

Penalties for contempt, Epner added, could range from fines to “adverse inferences” and potentially even jail.

Judge Engoron already fined Trump $10,000 (£8,082) for comments made outside of court last month. Financial penalties could potentially be doubled after each outburst.

“I would not be surprised if the starting point for fines was $100,000 or something even higher,” Epner said.

“Whatever the judge does, it’s going to be designed to compel Trump to stop acting in the way he’s been acting”.

girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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Trump calls trial “political lawfare” (video)

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-67338163

YurkshireLad , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News

Does his legal team know they won’t get paid?

peopleproblems ,

I don’t know jack shit about law, but I would have demanded something up front

like no fucking way trust him enough to pay them after. if they are that stupid, then it concerns me that they are lawyers

Neato ,
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Any legal team that doesn't demand advance payments at this point is just doing pro-bono work.

Bytemeister ,

The stupid gullible lawyers are all he can get these days.

UnspecificGravity ,

The legal team that didn’t bother to cross examine their own client after he testified for the prosecutor? I think they know.

Consider that for a moment. Trump himself just testified ONLY for the plaintiff. His own lawyers had nothing for him to answer at all.

They could have asked him anything like: “explain how it’s someone else that’s responsible for this” or “explain in detail how this is a witch hunt.” Literally anything.

CileTheSane ,
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The legal team that didn’t bother to cross examine their own client after he testified for the prosecutor?

The more Trump talks the worse it is for him. Stopping him as soon as possible may be the only smart thing they’ve done.

UnspecificGravity ,

Would have been smarter to keep him off the stand altogether.

Metz , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News

Wow, the speech his lawyers just gave is an incoherent rambling that has says absolutely nothing of substance, completely misses all points and stirs people up. He got himself a clone as lawyer.

jordanlund , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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This is the best play by play I’ve seen.

girlfreddy OP ,
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The BBC is pretty amazing at its coverage.

TropicalDingdong , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News

Lunch break.

What are yall having?

0110010001100010 ,
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I had some tasty Mexican buffet at the little local joint near me.

TropicalDingdong ,

Didn’t opt for the big mac?

baldingpudenda , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News

They just went to lunch. He barely acknowledged the press. Just kept on walking.

JohnDClay , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News

Are there recording devices allowed inside the court room? It’d be interesting to hear the whole examination.

Zombiepirate ,
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Nothing official. Obama put a microwave in the break room, but the reception isn’t great.

DirkMcCallahan , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News

“I beseech you to control him if you can.”

This line is going to be EPIC when they make a Trump mini-series.

girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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Trump has just spent the past five minutes airing his frustrations about the New York fraud trial while on the stand.

He points his finger at New York Attorney General Letitia James as he yells that the “political hack back there” is carrying out the probe to hurt him.

At the end of the rant, Kevin Wallace of the attorney general’s team asks him, “You done?”

“Done,” Trump says, prompting some laughter from the courtroom.

girlfreddy OP ,
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The courtroom is just laughing at Trump now. Anyone’s who’s spent time in court knows how well it goes for those who rant instead of testify.

girlfreddy OP , to news in Donald Trump fraud trial live updates: Former president takes the stand - BBC News
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Judge Engoron is attempting to redirect the court again as Trump continues to go on about his golf course in Scotland.

“Do you want to let the witness ramble on, be unresponsive?” Engoron asks Kevin Wallace of the attorney general’s team.

Trump’s attorney Chris Kise chimes in to say he thinks Trump’s response is a “brilliant answer”.

This prompts a chuckle from Wallace.

SeemsNormal ,

Let him keep talking. “Don’t interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake”.

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