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moneyinphx , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

Yet another reason on why Texas is so awful.

worldwidewave , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

Maybe try teaching the guy more, and caring about his hair less.

crawley ,

But that completely defeats the purpose! (which is the racism)

HughJanus ,

I don’t think it’s racism, just a school with fucking insane rules that should never be allowed:

Barbers Hill Independent School District prohibits male students from having hair extending below the eyebrows, ear lobes or top of a T-shirt collar, according to the student handbook. Additionally, hair on all students must be clean, well-groomed, geometrical and not an unnatural color or variation. The school does not require uniforms.

Why the fuck schools give a single shit about how kids dress themselves or wear their hair is beyond me.

candyman337 , (edited )

Those rules are there to be racist, these types of dress codes were literally invented to be exclusionary and/or erase culture to “”“assimilate”“” populations of native people.

sturmblast , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

this whole situation is ridiculous

halcyoncmdr , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

So… Where is the catalog of approved haircuts for students to pick from? Fucking fascist ideas being masked in bullshit like avoiding fake “distractions” in classrooms.

lolola ,
@lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’d like to see a catalog of edge cases that would theoretically be up to code but still look outrageous.

FraidyBear ,

I’m sure we could get creative here. Like, you could go with the Friar Tuck look with the top part shaved and that would be fine. I guess it depends on what they consider “geometrical”

mx_smith ,

I’m more of a Manchu queue style.

crusa187 ,

The approved hairstyles:

The approved hairstyles

OberonSwanson ,
@OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works avatar

The bottom left guy looks a little like a North Korean Tom Hanks.

febra , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

This is how america is destroying its youth and their future just because they refuse to comply with their racist demands. This is how the entire world sees america.

dasgoat ,

Especially non-white youth. These ‘rules’ are designed specifically as a bludgeon to use against poc.

Misconduct ,

Well have fun judging an entire country based on a shit tier school in one of our most shit tier red states. What utopia free of all racism are you from?

Peaty , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

I hope the family successfully destroys the finances of the people involved in these super racist decisions.

dingleberry ,

Usually it’s taxpayers money.

Peaty ,

And in this case it shouldn’t be.

Garbanzo ,

Yes it should. The school administration answers to elected officials who represent the tax payers/voters. If the community doesn’t like spending money on racist bullshit they should vote for someone with a god-damned lick of sense.

ILikeBoobies ,

It won’t, it’s not a racist policy. The people enforcing it probably are but if anything it’s a homophobic policy

The problem is hair length not hair style

Though some religious beliefs prevent cutting hair so there may be something there

ook_the_librarian ,
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You are saying the language of the written policy is not racist. It’s ultimately for a jury to decide whether the policy in action is racist.

ILikeBoobies ,

You hold a higher opinion of the American public than I do if you think a jury will find something racially motivated that isn’t overtly so

JustZ ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Juries are peak society.

There is no higher power coming to decide things for us, it’s only us.

A good trial attorney can explain complex and even uncomfortable things to random people in an engaging way that anyone can understand. Don’t have to rely on the jury’s ability to understand something for themselves, just their ability to learn, and the lawyer’s ability to inform.

clanginator ,

By implementing a hair policy that excludes styles and lengths which are clearly a part of black culture and a way of expressing identity in America, the policy is racist. Whether or not the intent was racism, it still has the effect, making it a racist policy. It can also be discriminatory towards queer people and other cultures.

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  • clanginator , (edited )

    I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say that any hair that is ‘relatively long’, ‘not geometrical’, or ‘unnatural color or variation’ is “clearly part of black culture.”

    Good thing that’s not what I said. The policy doesn’t exclude all black hairstyles, but many of the hairstyles that would be excluded are sources of cultural/personal identity for black Americans.

    it doesn’t seem to be written to target any particular culture

    Literally what I spent my first comment explaining - it doesn’t have to be written to target a specific culture to be a racist policy. Oppression is not determined by the intent of the oppressor, but by the lived experiences of the oppressed.

    Cethin ,

    That’s the issue with systemic racism. It’s designed to not look particularly racist until you examine in detail the things it effects. Many traditional black hair styles are going to violate some portion of that rule. Dreads almost certainly need to be longer and afros probably wouldn’t fly, for example. Most typical white styles are fine though.

    ILikeBoobies ,

    I’ve seen a lot more white people with long hair than black people

    But the punk/metal movement has always been progressive

    phillaholic ,

    The word you were searching for is sexist. I’ve been saying since the initial article that this might be unconstitutional under Bostock v. Clayton County.

    SirStumps ,
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    I don’t think it’s racism tbh. I went to a Texas highschool and they tried to make me cut my hair when I was younger. I am biracial and never did I consider it racial. Is it a dumb rule? Yes. It was created during the hippy era as a stand of some sort.

    ThatFembyWho , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    “Failure to comply”

    There it is, that’s the entire purpose of the modern education system, to beat us into submission to arbitrary socioeconomic roles, to curtail independence and creativity, rendering us fodder for corporate masters. Mind all the rules and maybe tomorrow you’ll get the extra nice table scraps.

    Good for them not complying, they literally harmed nobody including themselves. The suspension is clearly a punitive measure to heal the administration’s wounded pride, which is also an essential aspect of the education system.

    phoenixz , (edited )

    … Do you really believe all that you just wrote here? Because that is just conspiracy theory level nonsense.

    Yes, this school, and likely toianynoyhers too many others (typing at night is fun) have a bunch of asshole administrators that feel the need to show who’s in charge. That doesn’t mean all education is to shape us into slaves. Chill dude.

    Takumidesh ,

    Toianynoyhers. That might be the most egregious typo I’ve ever seen. I’m gonna hazard a guess at “too many others”? Hope I’m right, I’ve got $10 riding on it.

    tjsauce ,

    I just glossed past that word, thinking it was an old-timey insult

    SoleInvictus ,
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    All those goddamn toianynoyhers and their asshole administrators! I think I’ve found my new insult of choice.

    zanyllama52 , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program
    @zanyllama52@infosec.pub avatar

    It’s just hair. Why is the school district so interested in restricting hairstyles?

    AphoticDev ,
    @AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    It’s not just hair though. It’s the fact that a black student challenged a decision they’ve made.

    dustyData ,

    Specifically, it seems the school was explicitly told to target a single student in order for opening a way for the Governor to challenge the CROWN act in courts. It’s pure political maneuvering. Picking scapegoats and destroying individuals to advance racists agendas.

    GreenMario ,

    I can hear the shrieks of “uppity” from over here.

    dangblingus ,

    You know why.

    banneryear1868 ,

    I’m wondering if there’s more going on but the story is focusing on the most absurd detail. Its America though so I wouldn’t be surprised either way.

    DillyDaily ,

    It sounds like there have been a few other code of conduct violations and the schools issue with his hair style was the final straw. Who knows if the previous “violations of the code” were also rooted in racism, but either way, a hair style should never be the ultimate reason someone is expelled unless they’ve purposefully shaved an offensive slurr into their hair.

    PutangInaMo ,

    Looks like it’s part of a uniform requirement. It’s part of the “make them all look the same, that will stop bad behavior”.

    Public school shouldn’t be that way and it’s stupid in general. I went to “management school” for most of my middle school years and they did that to stop kids from fighting over colors and shit. Kinda made sense there though because we were all “bad apples”.

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    The school does not require uniforms.

    PutangInaMo ,

    Dammit I’m busted! Thanks for being the smart one and reading the article.

    random65837 ,

    Privatized uppity twat types, hardly only applies to black people. All those types of schools are like that.

    DreBeast , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    Pure, unadulterated racism.

    JusticeForPorygon ,
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    That’s Texas for ya

    phillaholic ,

    Texas actually passed a law banning this. Yea… the State and current governor think this is wrong. Let that sink in.

    JusticeForPorygon ,
    @JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Jesus Christ, I suppose that goes to show just how fucked up it is

    Malfeasant , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    Barbers hill, and they’re picking on a dude’s hair.

    Blastasaurus , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    What a shithole.

    Hope he gets into a college as far away as possible.

    agressivelyPassive ,

    It’s baffling to me, that the US always claims to be the champion of freedom, but runs most of their education like part-time prison camps. My school here in Germany didn’t give a crap about anyone’s appearance. If you’re street legal, you’re fine in school.

    MuhammadJesusGaySex ,

    Well, it’s because they have to prepare us for prison as an adult. Wait until you find out that American schools are largely funded by property taxes. Which means rich neighborhoods that pay more in property taxes have generally way better schools than poor neighborhoods.

    The United States is like a villain from a scooby doo episode. In every episode the “monster” is a person of color, or illegal immigrant, or an LGBTQ person. But when they catch the “monster” and pull its mask off. It’s old man US government every god damn time.

    LemmysMum ,

    That’s because you were raised to be a functioning member of society with enough tools to potentially succeed or excel.

    They were raised to fail upward while grifting and scamming on the side while fighting for the opportunity to be a wageslave and entering a lottery to be successful. Or risk prison and become an actual slave as allowed in their constitution.

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  • agressivelyPassive ,

    I’m hearing these and similar stories from all over the country.

    It’s not just about schools, either, but also colleges and education in general. And if you think about it, a lot of life too. Jaywalking for example. That’s a crime that simply does not exist elsewhere.

    Cerothen ,

    This doesn’t make a lot of sense in context, sure Texas has twice the land of Germany, but Germany has 2.5 times the population of Texas.

    Though I agree Texas is likely not representative of all the USA.

    zeppo ,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    So, Germany has the population of Texas + Florida + Georgia? Doesn’t sound that large.

    juib ,

    Please shut the fuck up with this "but the US is big" excuse for every single topic, it doesn't explain or excuse anything at all

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  • afraid_of_zombies ,

    Except my public school growing up tried a uniform as well. Stop making excuses, this isn’t a black swan event this is the mole that suggests cancer.

    BetaBlake ,

    Man this is one school run by just a few people, all it takes is one goofy bastard to suspend a student. This isn’t an “US” issue

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  • trashgirlfriend ,

    US motherfuckers celebrating being better than an actual war zone

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  • trashgirlfriend ,

    A lot of the US is like that tho

    agressivelyPassive ,

    Yeah, because this is the one case where this happened. Never before and nowhere else.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    My school had a uniform for about two years before they gave up on it. Of course, like everything else they did, they failed to plan.

    TheActualDevil ,

    Ooh! I’ve got a thing about this!

    In an Episode of the Youtube series Under the Blacklight, David Blight, a Yale professor brought something up that I think brings the American idea of “freedom” into a different context. He says “This whole new idea of what’s liberty and liberty for whom, can also kill. Especially when it replaces the idea of Liberty as that which has to be shared in some kind of common good.”

    The idea isn’t really new and is actually deeply rooted in America’s past through to it’s creation. Freedom should be a group concept in which we maximize freedom for the populace. Instead it’s seen as individual freedom only. When you combine this with the idea that freedom is the most important thing, it results in people coming to the conclusion that they are justified in anything in the process of attaining what they want. And they’ll use whatever tools they have available to attain this in as straight a path as they can.

    America has always been a champion of personal freedom, whatever they say. It’s founding was about a bunch of business men who didn’t want to pay taxes so they staged a rebellion. There’s still a heavy bent against taxes with the main argument being people don’t want the government to have any power, but really it’s because individuals just want to keep their money while disregarding the ways in which that money would improve the good for all people. At it’s core America is a Selfish nation built of selfishness and getting yours before someone else takes it.

    It gets more a little complicated when talking about motives of those in power, but boils down to the same, and they retain that power primarily by banging the “personal freedoms” drum.

    To quote famed Discworld philosopher Granny Weatherwax,

    “There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.” “It’s a lot more complicated than that–” “No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.” “Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes–” “But they starts with thinking about people as things…”

    Thank you for coming to my TED talk

    geissi ,

    I generally agree that that freedom in the US is mostly seen as ‘my personal right to do anything I want’.
    But that’s exactly what is being restricted here. An individual’s personal freedom to wear the hairstyle they want.
    So how does that explain the restrictiveness of US schools?

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    Because it’s bad even by our standards.

    TheActualDevil ,

    Because that individual doesn’t have the power to enforce their personal freedom. The Principal does have the power to enforce their idea of what the “correct” look is. The principal isn’t concerned about raising conditions for the group in actuality, they just want reality to conform to their idea of what they desire it to be. For them, it’s within their rights to their own freedom to bring everything that makes them uncomfortable to heel. Anything that they don’t like is an affront to their personal freedom to make everyone do what they want.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    My school here in Germany didn’t give a crap about anyone’s appearance.

    Tell that to the French who ban all religious symbols

    dustyData ,

    Good, religion has no place on a public education setting.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Not relevant. You don’t have less rights to free expression when skydaddy is involved.

    dustyData ,

    Except skydaddy psychos think they do have more rights to impose their rules and beliefs over others, which is an active attack to other’s rights. So no, on publicly funded institutions, skydaddy has no place and shouldn’t be allowed in.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Really? Did you interview each and every single one? I was a theist and I had zero interest in doing that.

    Sorry you don’t believe in freedom of expression

    dustyData ,

    Get out of here with your stupid “freedumb of eshpreshon!” Separation of church and state is a pillar of democratic, tolerant and peaceful societies. That means, no religion in public schools. No one is stopping anyone from being as religious and practice whatever they want in their home, or even in public on the street. But as soon as they put a feet on a publicly funded institution, they must abide by the law above all. Not the mandates of their imaginary friend. Freedom of expression doesn’t mean free from public responsibility.

    random65837 ,

    Funny, aside from clearly not understanding what the separation of church and state is, now you’re going on about abiding by the law above all, yet above calling just that a racist agenda.

    random65837 ,

    That’s all it comes down to!

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    People on this site: no one has any right to tell me what to do unless they explain the rule and I agree at that moment. If I change my mind the rule changes. I am a free person and my whims veto any law.

    Also people on this site: fuck this person for wanting to quitely decide what clothing to wear.

    random65837 ,

    Wrong, religion has no place being TAUGHT in a public education setting, a student wearing a religious symbol should 100% be allowed to. That’s literally what religious freedom is, kinda one of our founding principles. Don’t confuse religious freedom with the separation of church and state.

    random65837 ,

    but runs most of their education like part-time prison camps

    Feel free to back that one up, a foreigner that’s never gone to school here a day in your life.

    My school here in Germany didn’t give a crap about anyone’s appearance. If you’re street legal, you’re fine in school.

    And that’s the way it is here 99% of the time, this is a private school in an independent school district, they have crazy rules and it’s usually rich preppy kids going to them that all walk around like clones of each other. This isn’t a race thing, it’s a convenience thing where EVERYTHING is about race, especially when it’s not. You’d know that if you live in this country. This tactic is nothing new.

    JokeDeity , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    Texas was a mistake.

    Enkrod ,
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    Texas, in this case, is actually siding with the student through the CROWN-Act that was specifically adopted because of court cases over hairstyles that damn school already lost before.

    Soggy ,

    The school has proven itself incapable of adhering to the law, the administration should be totally replaced.

    Ghyste , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    So their guidelines are openly discriminatory at best, and openly racist otherwise…

    It’s mind-blowing how quickly the US is regressing because we’re kowtowing to a miniscule minority.

    I’m openly curious how well a “liberal” minded individual who isn’t afraid to be an asshole would be received.

    PoliticalAgitator ,

    Largely, the problem is that the far-right shows up.

    No matter how tiny the power grab, they’ll have someone there to grab it, often unopposed.

    deweydecibel ,

    The problem is largely the structure of our democracy. The left shows up, they showed up more in the last decade than they ever have. And we’re still sliding backward.

    Because the way our idiotic system works, the number of people that show up matter less than the zip code they show up in.

    mangosloth ,

    I’d love to see what a liberal asshole politician would look like, but i can’t see it working out today. As much as the right blows wokeism out of proportion, PC culture is still a thing in a lot of liberal areas, and if you’re not PC as a liberal politician I imagine you’ll offend the more sensitive parts of your own base. Didn’t Bernie Sanders get hit with some of that? And he wasn’t even that assholeish, he just showed a spine.

    DarthBueller ,

    Ilhan Omar’s treatment of a woman asking for her political support in opposition to female genital mutilation was pretty close to being a liberal asshole politician (or it revealed her to be trying to have her cake and eat it; namely, that she takes positions designed to get liberal support, and simultaneously strategically acts like a regressive when it comes to FGM to get support from African hijabis and other Islamists).

    pinkdrunkenelephants , (edited )

    I’m openly curious how well a “liberal” minded individual who isn’t afraid to be an asshole would be received.

    Speaking from experience here, people will actively, and sometimes collectively, attack you for it. They’ll gang up on you online. They’ll openly and often violently bully you in real life. They’ll even abuse the legal system to get rid of you if they are angry enough at you.

    Being an asshole towards shitty people (and the vast majority of humans are shitty people, myself included) is very VERY enlightening on how our rights and our laws are just a thin veneer covering what really governs our lives, and that is our feelings. Most humans could give a fuck less about logic, facts or the truth; they only care about their emotions and what they want because they are only connected to the real world through their emotions, not their minds.

    Humans are no better than base animals and being willing to be a horrifying House-level dick towards those you think are deserving demonstrates this, really handily.

    It doesn’t surprise me that poor young man was forced to go to an alternate school where the diploma he’ll get won’t be as respected by the colleges he’ll apply to. He probably told them off for being so blatantly racist and, in their hurt, they kicked him out.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I’m openly curious how well a “liberal” minded individual who isn’t afraid to be an asshole would be received.

    Carlin died an old man rich and successful

    DarthBueller ,

    Are we kowtowing to a miniscule minority? The only kowtowing I personally observe are academic institutions within states with GOP-dominated legislatures and courts. K-12 schools in progressive areas within such states have to tread carefully to keep the man off their back, and public universities have to carefully craft their language relating to research and programs. But largely it’s a semantic game, where the substance doesn’t change but the language used is toned down to avoid attention of asshats. Similar to any research related to human sexuality when there’s a Republican president in the White House and the NIS/NIH leadership is dominated by GOP appointees - they don’t change the research, but they absolutely rework the language used to describe the project.

    raynethackery , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    Darryl George, 18, is a junior at Barbers Hill High School in Mont Belvieu and has been suspended since Aug. 31.

    The man is 18. You can’t make him do anything he doesn’t want to do. He should just take his GED.

    Rai ,

    Hairstyle has been used TONS in the past as an excuse to be a racist pile of shit

    buuuut 18, junior? That’s grade 11? I feel like there’s more to this story.

    buuuut it’s Texas. So I have no idea.

    urist ,
    @urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Yea idk, being a bad student doesn’t mean the school should be able to dictate your haircut (as long as you aren’t having a hygiene problem. Young man looks fine in this photo).

    Rai ,

    I HEARTILY agree with you. I’m just saying I strongly believe there’s more to this story than the school being like “ur sus cuz of your hair” but then it’s Texas, so that could totally be the case, and it’s actually just a coverup for their racism.

    ElderWendigo ,

    Kinda hard to get a good education when the whole system is holding you back. Even if this kid had actual behavior problems, whose fault do you really think that is, the parents that are fighting for him or the system that is actively against him, trying to physically mutilate his identity, and seems to be putting him on a fast track to a for-profit prison?

    Zealousideal_Fox900 , to news in Black student suspended over his hairstyle to be sent to an alternative education program

    MERICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (/s this is fucked up)

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