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Schmidtster , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

So it was resolved instore to their even better benefit, AND the person still went and posted a false story to shame and blame them?

People are fucking weird.

AbouBenAdhem ,

Even if it was a one-time glitch that was resolved in-store, it implies that the prices shown on-screen aren’t necessarily the same prices used internally to compute the total.

That could merit a heads-up post for people to double-check their totals, though not the suggestion of anything more nefarious.

Schmidtster ,

Things misscan all the time, they are using a hot topic to make an agenda.

They could have spun it as a good story with the ending they got, but they choose to focus on a technical glitch that occurs with human cashiers as well.

Pheonixdown ,

Nah, this wasn’t an issue with the scanner, it’s an issue with the core design of the software. For whatever reason, it uses different value fields when determining the price to display for an item and the price used in the total, that means this problem can occur for any number of items and the only way to detect it is to manually total the receipt. It’s a fundamental problem with the software and their pricing change control process and a good PSA, the negative headline draws better attention than the positive, which is that anyone could be charged incorrectly. That the store was able to fix it is also good to include, but it is an expected responsibility of the store to do so, not some positive spin.

KairuByte ,
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How is this an mis-scan? Everything was scanned into the system, all recognized, all properly entered. The problem came with the display of that information. There was nothing wrong with the scan.

corsicanguppy ,

instore

Not a word, my dude.

Schmidtster ,

In-store is, and language is fluid. If you understood what I meant we succeeded in communicating, anything else is you just trying to be better than someone else.

lolcatnip ,

Languageisfluid isacommon excusefor people whoare justwrong.

Schmidtster ,

Okay Luddite.

lolcatnip ,

I apologize for knowing how to spell.

Schmidtster ,

So where do we draw the line on when new words can’t be created anymore? Shakespeare? Wassup? Crunk? Your username even has LOL in it, I don’t think we should be taking language lessons from someone who parades that around….

An online forum lacking in content and engagement isn’t the place to make a stand against minor mistakes that don’t detract from the conversation.

lolcatnip ,

What I’m making a stand against is the position that there’s no such thing as bad grammar because it’s all just language evolution.

Schmidtster ,

If it gets in the way of communicating, sure. Butobviouslythatwasn’ttheissue here.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Except language is demonstrably fluid, meanwhile it seems like your grasping of prescriptive pedantry is coincidentally just a lazy reason to try and be correct when everyone knew what “instore” meant.

Do you say “God be with you” when departing, or just goodbye?

lolcatnip ,

Of course it is. That doesn’t mean every missing or grammatical mistake is an example of language evolving. Usually it’s just carelessness or ignorance.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Carelessness or ignorance, believe it or not, evolve language. Have you heard of compound words?

lolcatnip ,

fyne wut evar ur rite having stan dardz sux u cant comlane cuz u no wat i mint

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

God be with ye

Schmidtster ,

I believe they are what people call a hypocrite, they have LOL in their username.

Kachilde ,

Thefact thatyour commentcan stillbe understood kindof disprovesyour point.

Beingpedantic aboutspaces andhyphens in anonline comment-section doesn’t makeyou a better-person.

ABCDE ,
tenextrathrills ,

Is gofuckyourself a word?

ItsAFake ,

It is to me.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

What’s even worse is 7News published the story.

fidodo ,

That’s still a major software bug. What a POS.

SirSamuel ,

It is indeed a Point of Sale, albeit a shitty one

OldWoodFrame ,

Not major if it only impacts the price shown on the itemized price screen of clearance mangos in one store and the total price charged is correct.

Cocodapuf ,

Is this news?

It certainly doesn’t belong in /technology, right?

Telodzrum , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

“We’ve looked into this transaction and can confirm that the total of $17.90 was correct, however the mango price of 80 cents each that appeared on the screen was incorrect due to a technical error — they were on clearance for $1.90 each,” the Woolworths spokesperson told 7NEWS.com.au.

“We understand why this customer was concerned and we apologise for the confusion caused. Our team resolved this with the customer in-store, providing the mangoes free of charge.

Seems pretty straightforward and had a good resolution.

AgnosticMammal ,

7news is like that for ya. Lots of petty drama news.

r00ty Admin ,
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But, what kind of software do they have that uses one price source for the unit pricing display and another source for calculating the total? It seems that it is destined to create more problems like this one.

Telodzrum ,

IDK, that seems like a really reasonable question tbh.

Enk1 ,

POS software is right up there with vehicle infotainment systems when it comes to reliability and usability. They get the dregs of the programming world because decent coders have a way better selection of companies to work for.

AlligatorBlizzard ,

Even when they get decent coders for the base code, feature creep eventually wrecks the system. I know someone who helped write the POS system used in Disney parks, and according to them the system they originally built didn’t suck nearly as much as the system I used as a cast member, and it’s the hastily tacked on bullshit (causing the initial competent team to quit) that ultimately broke it. That said, I do realize that most people will not admit to shipping shoddy code in the first place.

poweruser ,

I imagine there’s code to do something like currency conversion or maybe rewards points calculation so the displayed amount is not actually the number used for the final total

r00ty Admin ,
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Deductions should also appear as a line item though.

Kusimulkku ,

But I want to be outraged

Telodzrum ,

🫂

Corgana , (edited )
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Seems pretty straightforward and had a good resolution.

Well, except for when the Redditor went home and spread lies technically factual statements presented in a misleading manner and omitting key details with the apparent goal of damaging the reputation of the store despite being treated with kindness and fairness by the manager.

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Lies? What lies? They went home and said “I found this situation annoying.” How is that a lie?…

MrNesser , to mildlyinfuriating in KFC workers are caught licking chicken pieces

Question not covered in the article did any of that food make it to the customer or was it thrown away as it was “closing time”

Yoz OP ,

Definitely it was served to customers. I think they caught these dirty mofos after checking the CCTV. From what I remember one of the task for managers is to check CCTV camera footage.

Remmock ,

It definitely wasn’t. They were doing this after hours.

Yoz OP ,

Lol f off

Remmock ,

I will. It was fascinating reading the article and seeing all the comments from people desperate for a big nothing burger and some french cries.

M137 ,
@M137@lemmy.world avatar

You’re so invested in this, it’s absolutely hilarious. People are writing good comments and all you do is say “fuck you, I have no more info than you but I’ve decided on something and will act like a 12 year old about it”.

It would actually be good if the case is that you’re just a 12 year old, otherwise it’s just fucking sad and pathetic.

thorbot ,

OP is an idiot

Squizzy ,

Disinformation, learn about what you’re talking before you present things in the manner you did.

Aatube ,
@Aatube@kbin.social avatar

citation needed, especially your first sentence

DeltaTangoLima ,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

Source? Everything else says this was after closing time, when the food gets thrown out.

Yoz OP ,

I don’t understand people. Idiots are defending the action. There’s no source claiming its after closing time or before.

DeltaTangoLima ,
@DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

I’m not defending anything - all I’m saying the article quotes that the video was taking after the store had closed, as does the caption on the video itself.

I’m asking the commenter at the top of this thread if they have anything to backup their assertion that the food was “definitely” served to customers.

Remmock ,

It did not make it to the customers.

“A group of Australian KFC workers have been condemned for their after-hours antics which were shared online and labelled “disgusting” by furious social media users.”

That food gets thrown out anyway. If they want to clown about it as a former QSR Manager I wouldn’t care in the slightest as long as they clean it all up.

RootBeerGuy , to moviesandtv in Disney to stop releasing DVDs and Blu-ray discs in Australia
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

So to actually own movie you really can only pirate it. Well done, Disney!

KptnAutismus ,

The arguments just make themselves at this point…

cjf , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

I’ve come to realise at least half of the stuff posted on Reddit these days, especially more so on the popular subs, are all designed to make you angry.

It’s things like posting incorrect info in the title, posting a comic / image that’s been deliberately designed to get you angry, someone really wanting their 5 minutes of fame like this guy, or some post from some bigot.

It’s so tiring. Have started to notice it on Lemmy too.

DaddleDew ,

Ragebait had become the new tactic to generate engagement for a while now.

Hopefully people will soon catch on and become fed up with it because I am sure this tactic has been one of the biggest contributing factors in polarizing people against each other and making politics so toxic.

ABCDE ,

Facebook has started to do that and… it’s fucking annoying that it works. Lots of bullshit demonising trans people pushed to me 10+ times a day.

Rentlar ,

The news aggregator communities tend to post the clickbait titles verbatim because it’s generally frowned upon to editorialize them. However a few users do put a proper heading or a short summary in the post body which I appreciate.

We have our share of drama llamas here as you know, but we also have pictures of !crows, !cat, !superbowl.

If you follow !toronto and !vancouver you will see my picture posts of various cityscapes.

Lastly, beehaw.org is a bit closed off from some instances but their server is a bit more chill outside of their politics community.

aggelalex , to mildlyinfuriating in KFC workers are caught licking chicken pieces

Misleading. They did this with food they were about to throw away.

Yoz OP ,

Like you were there with them. Shut up mate

dylanTheDeveloper ,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Go lick some chicken and step on some lettuce

Yoz OP ,

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  • GuyFi ,

    I work at a McDonald’s and the managers let people take stuff at close, either way it’s just gonna go into the bin

    Yoz OP ,

    Sure, if you say so. GTFO! Go flip some burger

    cosmicrookie , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’
    @cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

    Drama seeker article on drama seeker redditor

    haruajsuru , to mildlyinfuriating in KFC workers are caught licking chicken pieces

    While I do not condone wasting food, even if it was “closing time” but OP seems to be trying to fan the flame with misinformation (all pictures in the website show “POV closing time”) and respond very rudely to ppl who pointed this out.

    Yoz OP ,

    Booohoooo…I am crying. F off bro! This kind of behavior is not acceptable. Lucky these idiots recorded themselves , imagine what idiots like you’ve been eating all these time. Kfc with side of booger and saliva

    otp , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

    This is just how it works in the US and Canada, though.

    $1.50 scanned.

    Your total is $1.65.

    Would you like to make a donation to a children’s charity?

    • $1
    • $2
    • $5
    • (other)

    Please select a tip percentage:

    • 18%
    • 20%
    • 25%
    • 100%
    • (other)
    alansuspect ,

    They want a tip at self-serve? That’s ridiculous!

    TheRealKuni ,

    I’ve never seen a tip prompt at the self-serve.

    tja ,
    @tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Not yet!

    fidodo ,

    They’re making a joke.

    alansuspect ,

    I’m not USA, I can never be 100% sure.

    DingoBilly , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

    What a garbage article. I assume this is a bit reporting, otherwise please don’t post crap like this from bad news sources.

    BearOfaTime , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

    Tempest in a teapot.

    Did they call someone over when they saw the discrepancy? Because, you know, mistakes happen.

    I frequently have something not scan, or not come up right. There’s a button for help, there’s always someone right there anyway, hell, had a clerk walk up and help when he noticed I hit the wrong button. They pay attention.

    “I was annoyed”… That a system misreported something? If I was annoyed every time that happened I’d never not be annoyed.

    What’s with this sudden “self checkout rage bait” this week? Who’s pushing what agenda?

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  • Schmidtster ,

    Funnily enough humans have been scamming them at checkouts for decades. Adding stuff to the the scales for example, wrong fruit codes, lots of options.

    arctickako ,

    Or it might be that Coles and Woolies are already under investigation for price gouging all while unsurprisingly posting record profits. Most Australians have felt the really quick rise of the cost of living, and are rightly skeptical of both supermarkets which basically hold a duopoly over Australian shops. They already do a bunch of sketchy shit, what’s to stop them from doing more?

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  • arctickako ,

    Aight bud, that was to show why there’s already distrust towards both corporations. It’s not hard to see why people would be inclined to believe that Coles/Woolies are trying to fuck them over yet again.

    Slovene , (edited )

    There’s a lot of "I deserve to have a human scan items” takes that are bafflingly stupid.

    I know, right? People should be glad that prices are rising while wages are stagnating and now having to do additional work to reduce cost and increase profits for corporations.

    I also don’t get the entitled assholes in restaurants. You wan’t to be waited on? Just go up to the cook directly yourself and tell them what you want to eat. And then bring it to your table that you’ve cleaned up yourself. In fact, restaurants should get rid of cooks as well. Just go to the restaurant and cook your own meal, you lazy bastards!

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  • Slovene , (edited )

    I’m a fan of stores hiring even more cashiers and them working fewer hours (without a paycut, ofcourse; sonething like 4 day workweek) to spread out the workload and having more people employed and reducing the long lines.

    I am a fan of not replacing all the cashiers with selfcheckouts.

    I am a fan of putting mechanisms in place that reduce the incidence of RSI. Not to mention the fact that there are occupations with a high incidence of much much harsher illnesses and injuries etc.

    I am a fan of people having more free time after they get off work instead of having to spend it waiting in line for someone to finally check their items out and then having to spend a long time doing it themselves.

    And I never said it was to hurt corporations but that your comment sounded like bootlicking. But, yeah, I want cashiers because everyone only goes to the store for a single item. Nice strawman you got there.

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  • Slovene , (edited )

    You do realize that the elderly and disabled people go shopping too, right?

    How is your point being proven? Also, read my comment again, I edited some stuff. Might edit it some more later, IDK. I mean, your only argument seems to be “high incidence of RSI and people are lazy hurr durr.”

    mwguy ,

    Did they call someone over when they saw the discrepancy? Because, you know, mistakes happen.

    Not in software. The software is doing exactly what it was programmed to do.

    Schmidtster ,

    So no software has ever glitched before and output a wrong result? What world do you live in?

    mwguy ,

    If there’re two different items calculations one “real” one and “display” that’s an intentional choice made because they know there can be discrepancies.

    Schmidtster ,

    Yep rounding errors occur, manual changes need to be inputted sometimes, display errors, sales mistakes. Nothing weird about that. In fact their policy probably has specific points to deal with discrepancies between list, scanned and total prices.

    BearOfaTime ,

    Most likely an oversight.

    The real question would be how did the clerk/store handle it when pointed out?

    I’ve never once had a grocery store quibble over a discrepancy - they’ve always just overrode the price, right then, and went on with their day. At most taking a minute.

    Compare that to before there were barcodes, and just price stickers on things (yes, I’m that old). This was a LOT more hassle.

    Ever see a sitcom where the clerk is calling for a price check over the intercom? Yep, that’s what they used to do. Most of the time we’d tell them nevermind, don’t bother, because it took too damn long and there was a line of 3+ filled, large carts behind us…because checkout took forever as the clerk rang in, manually, every item. Pulled out their sheets to verify prices, code, etc.

    mwguy ,

    Can’t be just an oversight. This has to be an intentional design decision. The “simple” (and economical) way to build this system is to build it so that the scan reads the price from a database and that price is then displayed and used to sum the total.

    Keeping two prices, a display and a real one, is a design decision that adds a complexity to the system, makes it more difficult to administer and is an intentional design decision, especially if the numbers are allowed to differ.

    A coupon not being applied correctly could be a mistake with that coupon. A sale not being taken into account, a problem with that sale or that UPC entry in the database. Those could be issues with data entry and data management.

    This is different. This is intentional. And I’d bet, we’ve just found someone either cheating the tax man or embezzling funds.

    BearOfaTime ,

    Or a HUMAN forgot to update the pricing. 😱

    Fact is, I see this all the time with stuff that’s labelled for sale. More than half the time I need a clerk to correct things that have a sale sticker and price on them at the grocery store, because that stuff changes daily.

    Empricorn , (edited ) to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

    Ignoring the price discount on the mangos, the answer here is sales tax, right? Because otherwise it would be $15.70. It’s a bad design that tax amounts don’t show up on the itemized screen (but probably on the final screen after that).

    Tell me if anyone knows for sure, otherwise I’m going to assume that’s the issue…

    EDIT: Thank you folks, asked and answered! Then, I’m back to being very confused…

    bufordt ,
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    Doesn’t Australia include the tax in the listed price of the item instead of adding it at the end?

    BangCrash ,

    Yes it does

    Draedron ,

    Every country except the US and Canada does this

    SparrowRanjitScaur ,

    Does Australia charge tax on groceries?

    BangCrash ,

    Depends on what it is.

    But most raw food is tax free

    BangCrash ,

    Itemized prices should already include tax.

    Total will also include tax.

    But receipts will outline how much of the total was tax.

    Source: am Australian

    Crack0n7uesday ,

    Only the US adds sales tax after the original price, everywhere else it’s included in the price on the shelf.

    Zeoic ,

    Not just the US, Canada is like this too.

    Tenderloins ,

    Unfortunately. Should be all-in price.

    RampantParanoia2365 , to mildlyinfuriating in KFC workers are caught licking chicken pieces

    I feel bad for the homeless guy, but this is after hours. They’re closing, and it’s all getting thrown away.

    Aatube ,
    @Aatube@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah, that's crucially missing context from the headline

    DeltaTangoLima ,
    @DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com avatar

    Never let the facts get in the way of a good headline, eh? I fucking hate outrage “journalism” like this.

    Oaksey , to technology in Supermarket responds after Reddit user’s warning about self-checkout overcharge — ‘Was annoyed that the total amount due on my supermarket purchase did not equate to the individual items I purchased.’

    The last 4 scanned items listed on screen but “5” items scanned. I’d dare say the fifth items that isn’t shown on screen accounts for the difference?

    Guntrigger ,

    There’s 2 mangoes.

    LifeInMultipleChoice ,

    According to the article the mangos were on sale for a higher price than what showed up on the screen, it totaled them correct but there was a mistake with it saying .80 cents per mango. They gave them the mangos for free apparently and apologized. Same thing would have happened whether or not it was a self checkout or a person, the item was entered incorrectly into the system.

    Always verify what you are buying.

    ChunkMcHorkle , (edited ) to mildlyinfuriating in KFC workers are caught licking chicken pieces
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    VulKendov ,
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    I feel like if someone is willing to dig through trash for food, I don’t think they’ll care if someone licked it.

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