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No matter how many times you repeat this Russia isn’t going to stop the war. That’s been obvious for two years to anyone with a functioning brain. The fact that psycho wasps want to turn this war into a nuclear holocaust is just incredible.

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literally everyone who is not an imbecile

yogthos ,
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The idiots attacking first strike detection infrastructure. Amazing this needs to be spelled out.

yogthos ,
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Software just has to be good enough that people put up with it. Once you get users on the system, you make it difficult to move your data out which acts as a lock in mechanism. The company that can make a minimally usable product that people are willing to put up with will typically beat one making a really good product that takes longer to get to market.

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lol it’s like an island ecosystem :)

yogthos OP ,
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Yeah also true, you’re generally not gonna start doing anything if you know you’re getting interrupted anyways.

yogthos OP ,
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indeed

yogthos ,
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The United States is unable to find any human rights abuses by the IDF 🤡

yogthos ,
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that’s because wasps don’t consider Palestinians to be human

yogthos OP ,
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Given that US can’t even win a war against Yemen, it’s pretty clear that burger empire has no business trying to take on China. Not to mention that US has lost every one of their own simulated conflicts in South China sea. Of course, we all know that burgerlanders lack the intelligence and wisdom to learn from their debacles, and will cheerfully rush into a war in China.

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I do hope you’re right because a direct conflict between US and China would be cataclysmic for the whole world. I also agree that US military likely understands that this wouldn’t end well for them, but it seems that the political class in US is completely unhinged. There’s also little sign that their puppets administering the island learned all the wrong lessons going by these statements inews.co.uk/…/taiwan-learning-ukraine-china-attac…

I do think China will try to avoid a military confrontation, but there are red lines like putting missiles in Taiwan that would force China to act.

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You just have to look at a map to understand that. For starters, Taiwan imports over 90% of its energy. China just needs to blockade trade for Taiwan and the economy there will collapse overnight. Taiwan being an island makes it much harder to US to assist it as well, and US would be acting as the attacker in this scenario because China can launch missiles from the mainland just the same way Yemen does, while US would be forced to move assets from far away.

yogthos OP ,
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All the bombing of Yemen US has been doing sure fooled me.

yogthos OP ,
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I do think that US military is far more sober than US politicians, so let’s hope that they really have some leverage within the system and can put their foot down when push comes to shove. Otherwise, we’re very likely headed for a nuclear holocaust.

yogthos OP ,
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It’s just a policing action bro.

yogthos OP ,
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And of course none of these problems would apply to burger empire who would have to attack China from across the ocean requiring far more complex supply chains. I mean just look how well burgerlander proxy war against Russia is going.

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😀

yogthos OP ,
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Moving equipment across complex supply lines has absolutely been a problem, and many commentators have talks about how much more difficult it is for US to ship weapons to Ukraine than for Russia. This should be obvious, yet here we are.

yogthos OP ,
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It’s because people are expecting US to start cutting rates at some point like the other countries have been, and since the rates are currently high it makes the dollar relatively stronger.

yogthos ,
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ToTaLiTariAn 🤡

yogthos ,
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Won’t somebody think of the CEOs!

yogthos ,
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No idea what ccp is, but CPC is demonstrably good for the people of China. Anybody who can’t see that needs to stop guzzling propaganda.

yogthos OP ,
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Open source does actually pave the way towards addressing many of the problems. For example, Petals is a torrent style system for running models which allows regular people to share resources to run models.

Problems like hallucinations and energy consumption aren’t inherent either. These problems are actively being worked on, and people are finding ways to make models more efficient all the time. For example, by using the same techniques Google used to solve Go (MTCS and backprop), Llama8B gets 96.7% on math benchmark GSM8K. That’s better than GPT-4, Claude and Gemini, with 200x fewer parameters. arxiv.org/pdf/2406.07394

And here’s an approach being explored for making models more reliable wired.com/…/game-theory-can-make-ai-more-correct-…

The reality is that we can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube now. This tech will be developed one way or the other, and it’s much better if it’s developed in the open.

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Again, I’m not arguing that open source automatically solves problems, just that since AI is obviously going to continue being developed, it’s better if it’s done in the open.

yogthos OP ,
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not working due to hallucinations

It’s pretty clear that hallucinations are an issue only for specific use cases. This problem certainly doesn’t make ML useless. For example, I find it’s far faster to use a code oriented model to get an idea of how to solve a problem than going to stack overflow. The output of the model doesn’t need to be perfect, it just needs to get me moving in the right direction.

Furthermore, there is nothing to suggest that the problem of hallucinations is fundamental and can’t be addressed going forward. I’ve linked an example of a research team doing precisely that above.

wasteful in terms of resources

Sure, but so are plenty of other things. And as I’ve illustrated above, there are already drastic improvements happening in this area.

creates problematic behaviors in terms of privacy

Not really a unique problem either.

creates more inequality

Don’t see how that’s the case. In fact, I’d argue the opposite to be true, especially if the technology is open and available to everyone.

and other problems and is thus in most cases (say outside of e.g numerical optimization as already done at e.g DoE, so in the “traditional” sense of AI, not the LLM craze) better be entirely ignored.

There is a lot of hype around this tech, and some of it will die down eventually. However, it would be a mistake to throw the baby out with the bath water.

what I mean is that the argument of inevitability itself is dangerous, often abused.

The argument of inevitability stems from the fact that people have already found many commercial uses for this tech, and there is a ton of money being poured into it. This is unlikely to stop regardless of what your personal opinion on the tech is.

yogthos OP ,
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I’d say it’s not so much that this tech doesn’t have value, but that it gets hyped up and used for things it really shouldn’t be used for. Specifically, the way models work currently, they’re not suitable for any scenario where you need an exact answer. So, it’s great for stuff like generative art or creative writing, but absolutely terrible for solving math problems or driving cars. Understanding the limitations of the tech is key for applying it in a sensible way.

yogthos OP ,
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yup

yogthos ,
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I really like fish because it has excellent contextual autocomplete based on the folder you’re in. I haven’t used any other shell that was as good at it.

yogthos OP ,
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The reality is that every source will have some sort of a view point which constitutes a bias. I think people should be careful with all sources, and it’s actually good to look at viewpoints from across the spectrum. You don’t have to agree with them or trust them, but it’s often useful to understand their perspective even if for the purpose of framing a counterpoint. If you know a source like quillette has a particular bias, then you just keep it in mind when you read it.

The sources I dismiss are the ones that can’t provide primary sources for the claims they make or are known to be factually wrong. These are the kinds of sources that constitute a waste of time and should be avoided.

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