snek

snek OP , 8 months ago

I think it’s normal. It’s a big claim to make, and the white house had to walk away from it. I’m still waiting for an official report to understand what happened (and I don’t expect it to be “good”)

snek OP , 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

To shift the focus away from the two million people (nearly half of those are children) with no water and under constant bombing.

Edit: and also to give Hamas an ISIS feel.

snek OP , 8 months ago

One example I got to know from one of my professors during my Bachelor’s where an author who published a story book about honor crimes in Jordan. Despite the setting, one proposed goal of this book published in 2003 was to make the war on Iraq more palatable for the US public.

It turned out that the entire book was a hoax. Its main goal was to make the middle east look like a terrible place for women thus justifying any invasions to “free” them. www.theguardian.com/world/2004/…/books.booksnews

snek , 8 months ago

This is interesting because Aljazeera (Arabic) is denying this.

snek , 8 months ago

I tried to read all her Tweets despite not having a Twitter account and yes, none of them mention Hamas or support Hamas. She’s just telling people to tear down the wall.

Apparently, that’s only okay in Berlin and other places. Clearly tearing down the siege wall surrounding Gaza or the apartheid wall that has plagued Palestinians and ruined their agricultural lands for years and years is a big no-no.

Down with the goddamn fucking walls.

snek , 8 months ago

She meant freedom fighters, not necessarily Hamas. She seems to have also clarified in another tweet what she meant by that.

snek , 8 months ago

Are fake reviews even a problem worth bothering with?

I feel like this is the case. Whenever I have a new hobby and need to make a purchase, I rely a lot on reviews of others because it’s impossible to guarantee the quality of anything. Look at Doc Marten’s today, they fucking suck, and this is a “known” brand. Now how about buying all sorts of weird shit from other countries or small companies that aren’t well known enough.

Yes for consumers this is a problem.

The whole online shopping landscape is a complete mess and fake reviews are really just the tiny tip of the iceberg. To really improve the situation you’d need some “Consumer Reports”-type effort that objectively evaluates a products performance and compares it to the competition. Depending on random people on the Internet to do the reviewing is kind of a lost cause to begin with.

This would be a welcome solution.

snek OP , 8 months ago

They should take down the walls, negotiate with Hamas, return lands to Gaza, end the blockade and start a very long fucking peace process.

snek OP , 8 months ago

The Palestinians brought this on themselves.

How?

snek OP , 8 months ago

The only way to end the bloodshed would be Hamas offering an unconditional surrender.

And then what happens? Will Palestinians be guaranteed their basic rights? If Palestinians are not given the chance to be full citizens and have self-determination, this will only repeat in another 2-3 years.

snek OP , 8 months ago

But from Hamas’ side, the exact same thing is true about Israel.

snek OP , 8 months ago

And not taking it down will soon result in 2 million dead Palestinians.

snek OP , 8 months ago

but if Hamas cared at all about the Palestinian people they would do everything in their power to avoid that.

but if Israel cared at all about the Palestinian people they would do everything in their power to avoid that.

Everything goes both ways exactly the same.

snek OP , 8 months ago

But the state of Israel is also trying to “exterminate” Palestinians. Everything from their far right gov’t to people chanting “Death to Arabs” on the street.

It takes two to tango. If Hamas should step down, then Israel should step down at exactly the same moment.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Release Palestinians illegally detained by Israel without trial in place fo the hoostages.

snek OP , 8 months ago

I’m pro-Palestinian people. I don’t support Hamas and I think their tactics are bad and they can’t butcher civilians.

You are replying to a person you think I am, not who I am.

Hamas is a terrorist organization that just committed the 3rd largest terrorist attack in human history

Yeah but that list changes a lot if you count what Israel has done to Palestinians. When you remove that from the picture, you skew reality.

I don’t have Twitter, and will never have Twitter, so get used to me being around here. Cheers.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Unfortunately they are just as human as anyone. This is the point, humans do this.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Hmmm, so if you were Hamas, for example, and you decide to deescalate in hopes of eventually reaching an agreement over a joint state, what would you do?

Also the same question but if you were Israel, what would you do (let’s say today) to deescalate and seek a joint state solution?

snek OP , 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

Here you go

www.btselem.org/statistics/minors_in_custody

thenationalnews.com/…/israel-holding-most-palesti…

abcnews.go.com/…/israel-holds-1200-detainees-char…

I have more.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Okay, but for the sake of this example, imagine you are Hamas and have changed your mind, what would be step 1?

snek OP , 8 months ago

Sounds pretty balanced. I agree that Netanyahu would probably not know what to do readily since it would be very unexpected.

I’m was also watching the latest TL;DR video on YouTube about this and it seems that the reports say civilians are the ones who carried out the kidnapping of lots of civilian hostages while Hamas focused on military targets. I don’t know to what extent this is confirmable (since the source is Hamas itself).

snek OP , 8 months ago

Okay, but let’s say your step 1 is what you would do if you didn’t want to accept your demise (because I don’t think this choice is one that anyone would really take).

snek OP , 8 months ago

Yes but this particular news story is about Israel publicly announcing a war crime.

snek OP , 8 months ago

No, just accept surrender and be dehumanized.

snek OP , 8 months ago

The Israeli rhetoric is that Palestine never existed.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Like which one? Give me one that you think sounded reasonable that the Palestinians did not accept.

snek OP , 8 months ago

I asked first

snek OP , 8 months ago

I don’t think any of them are reasonable. Please show one where Israel was “moderate”. You made the claim so please provide an example since it’s not uncommon to hear that Israel’s peace negotiations were shit and unfair. So please list a few that you think were reasonable anf the Palestinians missed out.

snek OP , 8 months ago

You left out the part where they put them under siege and control the influx of water, fuel, electricity, goods, and people.

So they haven’t occupied them, they have just put them in an open air prison.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Feels to me like that wouldn’t work on Hamas’ side. Another situation where Israel is the total winner.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Right, thanks, but I think most if not all peace negotiations were giving Palestinians impossible demands with Israel being the biggest winner. If it’s anyone sabotaging the peace negotiations, it has always been Israel acting like an internet troll.

So yes, if Israel were to negotiate like a troll again, it won’t work. So instead of shifting the focus on the Palestinians, it’s Israel that needs a peace agreement that is reasonable and where they make concessions.

snek OP , 8 months ago

You still are leaving out the part where Israel is the one controlling the siege. Things with Egypt are politics. The checkpoint there under Egypt’s current government has been “open” (as open as it gets in this situation), which still doesn’t mean much and you can’t get anything through.

These people are under a blockade, completely controlled by Israel, with their own neighbours betraying them.

How Egypt and Israel feel about the Hamas gov’t does not justify holding 2 million people hostage with no water or fuel or electricity.

snek OP , 8 months ago

So if Hamas “surrenders” to Israel, how is this going to stop Israel’s daily oppression of Palestinians? What would Israel have to give back to Hamas?

snek OP , 8 months ago

I don’t think your plan would even remotely lead to a joint country solution, more like Israel just wins.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Israel has had options for so long and have waited for this moment to say they are out of options so they had to cut water off 2 million people of which one quarter of a million are now homeless and displaced.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Ah sorry I mixed up the threads. In another one, I was asking people what they would do if they were Hamas to reach a joint state solution. My bad.

You know what would not even remotely lead to such a solution? Kidnapping and murdering civilians.

I agree. Hamas are dumb as fuck.

Just so we’re clear, everyone loses here. But Israel is not going to negotiate with terrorists, nor should they.

And Israel won’t care about civilian lives either. Not wanting to negotiate with terrorists doesn’t mean all those kids in Gaza had to die. This is not what “not negotiating with terrorists” looks like. What it looks like is wanting to ethnically cleanse Palestinians.

In your example above, Israel takes all while Palestinians just get “prisoners” back (prisoners that are not really being tried for anything, a literal war crime, so for all intents and purposes they are not detained under any reasonable law and they don’t have the most basic of rights)… and Palestine gets nothing.

Seems to me like maybe Israel should negotiate with terrorists if it means less dead civilians. But Israel doesn’t care about that. And this is why we are here today.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Why do you avoid explaining yourself when people ask?

snek OP , 8 months ago

Sorry what does that mean? Nearly half of the Jordanian population are ethnically Palestinian.

I have seen this argument before. Could you explain what you mean by “them” and what you mean by Jordan not accepting them?

snek OP , 8 months ago

This person seems to think that criticism of Israel makes us Hamas-lovers. Not sure where this shit is coming from.

snek OP , 8 months ago

So if Israel can bomb Gaza for the actions of Hamas, by that logic (which I strongly disagree with), Hamas can also go around bombing Israel because they kill civilians on the fly.

Right?

snek OP , 8 months ago

Actually I just tend to read a lot about these news since I’m Palestinian and honestly your username has become far too familiar, associated strongly with downvotes. That doesn’t prove any of us two are right or wrong btw, just saying that you comment a lot and I tend to see you often on the same posts. Also I think I’m OP here so in a way you are stalking me?

So anyway, why so you avoid answering when people ask you to explain what you mean? It pays to be clear in online discussions.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Thank you for writing this.

I have said as much many times but because I dont add ‘kill all the jews’, this is where the downvotes come,

Hmmmm, not sure how our instances differ, but honestly I don’t see why anyone would upvote something like ‘kill all the jews’. I haven’t seen this on lemmy at all. Seems to me like it’s quite the opposite actually. I think a lot of the pushback you are getting is not because of that.

Third, tankie, is a derrogatory term for someone who is a bit of an armchair leninist, plenty around here.

Thanks. This is not what I think about when I hear ‘tankie’. Your definition differs from that of many on the internet

From memory you also asked about ‘Cooker’ yesterday. In australia, we refer to antivax, conspiracy nuts as ‘cookers’ (meaning their brain is cooked). Think of them like MAGA people in america if that helps. Thanks for explaining. I went to the urban dictionary when you said this word twice, and the definitions were too many to be able to pinpoint which one you meant. Please keep in mind that not everyone understands Australian-specific words. That’s why I asked.

Have a good night/day Hope you get some rest, the news can be overwhelming at times.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Not even that justifies it /:

snek OP , 8 months ago

There is no open border… not sure where you are getting this from.

snek OP , 8 months ago

We are reading the comment sections on lemmy.

snek OP , 8 months ago

Jordan has opened its borders to Iraqi, Palestinians, Syrians, etc. They have a general policy of taking in refugees. I don’t think Jordan does a good job treating those refugees well, but it’s almost a diplomatic certainty that Jordan would let them in.

So what exactly are you basing your opinion on?