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freagle ,

Reading comprehension fail. China has never said the Ukrainian resistance is illegal under international law.

freagle ,

Why not? They are literally founded by a journalist who couldn’t open with the main stream news outlets rejecting true stories because they didn’t fit the political narrative.

freagle ,

Turkey is such an enigma to me. Geographically it’s a major part of the Eurasian project. But the USA right wing gloms onto Erdogan. And now this move that is essentially BDS. I am very interested to see where this goes but man I need to learn more about Turkey

freagle ,

more than 100 arrested as cops break up student protest at Columbia in riot gear

freagle ,

Uhhh, Russia is a capitalist country, not a socialist one. They absolutely care about property rights because that is what capitalism requires. Russia has no intention of executing land reform any time soon.

freagle , (edited )

Who was Ukraine invaded by? Russia only? Or does it count when the USA foments a coup and even sends its regime change agents to oversee the coup, hand picks the successor, and deliberately hand picks someone that will invite the undemocratic nuclear-armed nazi-led transnational NATO to take it’s land for military installations? Because as Russia sees it, a nuclear armed military has been marching across Europe to it’s Ukrainian border across which Europe has invaded Russia twice. Is NATO allowed to move in as long as the USA coups the leaders who are against it?

Ukraine’s legitimacy in the West is founded on the narrative that it’s a white Christian democratic freedom loving bastion. When it suspends human rights, bans unions, bans communist parties, shells civilians, attacks civilians bridges with civilians on it, enlists Nazis, celebrates Nazis, honors Nazis, and then just starts grabbing men off the street and sending them to die with no training, it loses that legitimacy. Ukraine must surrender and negotiate a peace deal. The only other option is mass murder of its civilian population through forced consignment in a war of attrition that it is badly losing, has always been losing, and has never had a chance of winning.

freagle ,

Are you saying that Ukraine does not celebrate Bandera as a national hero or that Bandera was not a Nazi? Are you saying that Ukraine did not knowingly integrate explicitly neo-Nazi militias who recruited on the basis of their neo-Nazi ideology or that that those battalions are not neo-Nazis? Are you saying that the USA doesn’t vote against the resolution to condemn celebration of Nazis every single time it comes to vote or that the resolution isn’t actually about condemning the celebration of Nazis?

Just trying to figure out which “facts” you’re working with here.

freagle ,

Wow. Conspiracy mind activated. So you think all the civilians Ukraine burned to death in that office building were crisis actors?

freagle ,

LOL. What a ridiculous take. “Alliances”. You don’t have national alliances, neither do any of us, because we’re people. We have opinions. And the opinions of most of the left globally is that the USA is the greatest scourge of humanity and Russia is in a fight for its existence against an American proxy in the form of Ukraine.

It’s also such a thought terminator when you libs assume the only way people could arrive at this opinion is if you’re paid to do it, as opposed to libs who clearly are free thinkers and don’t get paid for their ideas they just arrive at them fully independently even though it completely aligns with US propaganda efforts, official State Dept narratives, and the clear oligarch-run news media consensus. You could never be paid to have your ideas, but your opponents? Of course they have nothing worthy of arguing because they are paid shills regurgitating from a script.

freagle ,

That’s literally what will happen if Ukraine keeps on fighting. They have sent literally every soldier and every piece of equipment they had into the breach. They have sent multiple times over the budget of Russia’s military in and it’s been destroyed. They are running out of everything. The average age of a Ukrainian soldier has sky rocketed.

This only stops with a negotiated peace deal.

freagle ,

Well, here it is folks. We all know what happens when the USA is tasked with controling an outbreak. It was nice seeing you in person for the last 18 months. I will now prepare for another lock down.

Can you imagine? If the USA ends up with another deadly epidemic with rampant community spread?

freagle ,

But the collective psychosis from another million dead is going to be fucking wild

freagle ,

Yeah, that’s not the point. Viruses don’t respect national borders.

freagle ,

Realize that the USA alone has sent lethal aid per year that exceeds the per-year budget of the entire Russian military and the Russian military has grown since launching the SMO and Russia has not deployed 100% of its military into Ukraine (because of course it can’t or it would be defenseless elsewhere).

freagle ,

There’s literally no reason to retaliate using state actors for this. It won’t fix the economics, it won’t fix the power balance.

The retaliation is when the US sets precedent in international economic relations and China uses it to cut off American tech companies from the Chinese market which is a massive revenue source for them. If China announced anything like that, it would kill the tech stocks future projections because all that growth that US tech was banking on would disappear.

freagle ,

The USA literally installed state department officials into TikTok scheerpost.com/…/tiktok-chinese-trojan-horse-is-r…

freagle ,

I have no idea what you’re responding to

freagle ,

So if the Saudis went in with him, and he worked with them, then it wasn’t solely his personal whims and beliefs. Just, for once, stop psychologizing celebrities and look at what’s actually happening. Twitter was 100% a State Department and military intelligence asset. Musk makes most of his money from federal contracts, mostly related to military intelligence and adjacent domains. The state has all the means to stop Musk from destroying their asset with his personal whims (FTC, SEC, etc). Instead, he buys it with support from the Saudis, a family that leaders of the USA have sworn to protect for decades.

Face it. Musk’s personal beliefs are merely what allows him to work with the power brokers. He is the lightning rod, the money launderer, the public face, the whipping boy, and eventually the sacrificial body. He’s not running the show.

freagle ,

I’m not saying he’s a martyr, I’m saying he’s not doing this from inside his skull but in concert with power brokers. The same is true of Kushner. Kashoggi’s dad was likely involved with the CIA based on the history of his work and institutions. MBS is not some rogue mastermind - the USA, up to and including presidents, have publicly stated that the Royal Family is under their direct protection and a major part of US policy. The murder of a journo and the subsequent coverup happened within the context of US power brokers calling the shots. MBS is somewhat roguish as he seems he may be trying to decouple from the USA enough to save his house from the inevitable collapse of the USA, and the Kashoggi killing may have been part of that, so the USA powers got a little split over whether to threaten him or cover it up, so they did both, but ultimately Saudi isn’t buying into Twitter with Elon as some part of a scheme against America, or against American liberals or against the Ds or whatever. MBS may be trying to purge Saudi institutions of the CIA, but his foreign policy is still constrained by his country’s absolute need for American protection.

Musk didn’t buy Twitter because he loves Trump and hates wokeness. He couldn’t have because it’s far too disruptive to power. Twitter was majorly important to power. Some moron with a lot of money, mostly money from the USA war machine, isn’t going to be allowed to just go wrecking USA war machine components, especially not when there are so many controls in place. We have to see Musk not as an evil mastermind nor as a sideshow but rather as a state actor. I guarantee most nations adversarial to the USA see Musk as a state actor and not some strange independent anomaly. And if we have to see Musk as a state actor, then we have to see the purchase of Twitter as a behavior beneficial to the USA power centers and that it happened because it was beneficial to them, not simply an accident.

freagle ,

Remember when libs used to accuse you of “clearly posting with an agenda”. Good times.

freagle ,

Your repeated comment can serve literally no other purpose than ad hominem. As in, because this poster posts things you claim to be “pro-Russia” and “pro-China” therefore the information the poster posts should be considered suspect.

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freagle ,

That’s a great question. Who knows what? Who knows who knows what? Who knows who knows who knows what?

That’s the game.

So the Chinese know where the planes are. The Americans don’t know the Chinese know. The Chinese know the Americans don’t know.

The Chinese publish. Now, the Americans know the Chinese know where the planes are and the Chinese know the Americans know.

This is preferrable to believing the Americans don’t know if they do know. It changes the behavior of military officers.

It is also preferable for the Americans to know as a deterrent against a first strike.

The big question is, if this advantage is worth it, then what else do the Chinese know that the Americans don’t know they know?

freagle ,

A bluff so easily called is not a bluff at all

freagle ,

Summary: Ukraine’s military weakness is it’s military

freagle ,

Should I at mozz again?

freagle ,

@mozz Regarding our prior discussion from months ago about the effect of sanctions on Russia and on Europe, I think this particular piece from the BBC is highly relevant and also has the benefit of time away from our initial discussion to show a bit of a trend, don’t you think?

freagle ,

Going from $1 to $2 is a 100% increase but you’re still fucking broke afterwards, and the guy whose $1,000 only grew by 1% still made 10 times more money than you lol

This is, of course, why all economist measure economic health in pure dollar amounts and never consider rate of change because it can be misleading. Investment decisions are always based on raw dollar amounts, which is why everyone only invests in blue chip stocks, and only the top 3 at that, because rate of change is deceptive and irrelevant. When we talk of recessions and depressions, of course, we only discuss raw dollar values, which is why the USA has never had a recession because it’s GDP has been higher than every other country, and despite what those crazies say about the 1920s, the rate of change, while negative, didn’t reduce the USA’s total economic dollar value below other countries. You’re 100%, uhhh, I mean you have a quantity of correctness that is very very high, quantitatively higher than the correctness of others.

Maybe instead of spending all their money murdering Ukrainians

If they were doing this, then they’d have no money left over for anything else, and yet, that’s not actually what we see, is it?

they should be trying to create a country where the leading cause of death for young men isn’t alcoholism

They are, by ensuring the West can’t continue to dominate them economically like they did when the USSR was dismantled and USA economic shock therapy to liberalize the economy created the oligarchs and caused a decline in life expectancy so stark it was as bad as what the USA experienced during COVID.

Speaking of spending their money murdering people, maybe the USA should spend its money on health care instead of being the richest country in the world with the highest death toll from COVID despite spending billions on Operation Warpspeed in a foolish attempt to make vaccines faster. Why foolish? Because Cuba produced vaccines on the same timeline without all that money while under a brutal 60-year collective punishment regime.

freagle ,

I think the Russian GDP is roughly half of Germany’s GDP alone, even though Russia is 50 times larger and came with some natural advantages as of a few decades ago

A few decades ago was USA economic shock therapy that absolutely destroyed the country. “Natural advantages” don’t factor into it.

I do think it’s accurate that Russia’s surviving the sanctions overall surprisingly well.

It’s literally growing faster than every country in the G7 while under the West’s most aggressive sanction regime possible and you think it’s “surviving”?

I don’t think it’s a strong advertisement for Russia that they have managed, by mobilizing their entire economic and military might, to penetrate a hundred miles or so across the border of a fairly tiny neighbor of theirs and then get stalled there for 2 years.

Russia’s military is literally larger than it was when they started the SMO but nearly all measures. They haven’t mobilized even half of their military might in this SMO. And they fought not only Ukraine’s entire military but also military aid from the US that literally is equivalent to Russia’s entire military budget. So they fought, dollar-for-dollar, a military that was larger than it and it came out bigger. How’s that math for you?

I remember you saying that that was exactly the plan, so that they could bleed the western economies to death right there at the eastern border of Ukraine, but that doesn’t seem believable to me.

I never said they were trying to bleed Western economies to death. I said their objective was to make the West overextend itself, because that’s how the USA lost Vietnam and Afghanistan. If history isn’t believable, what is?

I would expect that if the US aid comes through, then Ukraine will either slowly or quickly start winning the war again

Ukraine was never winning to begin with, aid or no aid. There has been no point in this conflict where Ukraine had the upper hand on the war writ large. Every thing that made any gains got swallowed up quite quickly afterward. And that was with aid equivalent to Russia’s entire military budget.

I don’t think that’s a good statement about the relative economic / military prowess of Russia as compared with the whole West as a whole though.

If the West goes through a recession, or worse, while Russia goes through a boom cycle, you’ll quickly see that absolute dollar values don’t matter.

freagle ,

Strawmen do not become you. No one is saying Russia’s military might will make the USA tremble. They are tiny. The point is that, like other tiny enemies the USA has faced down, the USA will lose, because despite their clear dominance in size, scale, supply chains, etc, they’re still losing.

Yes, it is possible to say that Russia had it’s economic capabilities completely ransacked by the West during liberalization and also that Russia is winning this proxy war and the USA can’t do anything about despite spending the equivalent of the entire Russian military budget on it in a single year.

And, despite them spending that amount, Russia’s entire military budget did not get spent on Ukraine. Again, Russia has not deployed half of its military to Ukraine (it can’t because if it overextended itself like that it would be too vulnerable), so no, Russia did not spend the equivalent amount of money to occupy Eastern Ukraine and destroy most of Ukrainian production, it spent a fraction of its military budget on it, while the entirety of the aid that was equivalent to their entire budget was spent on defense and failed.

As for being “stuck on the border” you keep assuming their objectives and their strategy and then judging by those assumptions. It’s pretty clear to most observers that Russia is simply not advancing rapidly and they have stated they don’t intend to advance rapidly. And if you look at the terrain, there’s good reason for it - it would require very long vulnerable supply chains in completely open fields. It’s precisely why both the Germans and the French attempted to invade Russia through Ukraine. Russia is holding a position that prevents that kind of invasion, with a fraction of its force and it is growing it’s total military size while doing it and it’s doing it under massive sanctions.

As for Vietnam, you can easily see who’s bleeding whom by looking at the maths of attrition. Russia is growing faster than the most powerful economies in the world, while increasing the size of its military (UK dropped swimming tests for its navy to bolster the ranks) and while outproducing all of NATO. The trap is for the USA, just like it was in Vietnam and like it was in Afghanistan. This time, however, the USA invasion didn’t look like invasion because it was NATO expansion, which is physically just moving soldiers, bases, and weapons platforms into a sovereign nation in order to threaten the next neighbor. Russia sparked the conflict to stop that expansion and call the bluff of the NATO nations, and it looks like it was a bluff because, here we are.

As for Ukraine in the North, again, tactical gains are not changing the collapsing line nor shooting down missiles landing in Kiev. The North has been shown to be immaterial.

As for the economic might point missing the entire to topic, if Russia’s economy grows its people and institutions will benefit. If NATO countries economies contract, its people and institutions will suffer, despite the dollar values being higher.

freagle ,

Here it is! The moment we’ve been waiting for. Japan slowly starting to thaw towards China as it realizes the emulating the West is a failing strategy.

freagle ,

Honestly, that man had foresight that psychics and mystics dream of

freagle , (edited )

With that said, Iran does very transparently fund terrorists to do their dirty work for them (not that this is unique to Iran).

This is a mischaracterization of how force works. Guerilla war is far superior to “<country> doing the dirty work themselves”. You can train a guerilla force as part of your main military, but by its very nature it needs to be decentralized or it’s not effective, it needs to be distributed or it’s easy to decapitate, and it needs to be constantly shifting in response to conditions. In essence, using guerilla forces IS doing the dirty work yourself, it’s not delegating it to another group so you don’t have to get your hands dirty.

The terrorist label is a useless term anyway. Terrorism is strategy for using civilian terror to effect change. The USA military uses the strategy of terrorism, they call it “shock and awe doctrine”. But calling rank and file soldiers “terrorists” doesn’t make any sense. Similarly, guerilla fighters don’t actually use terrorism, IEDs target military caravans. Shooting rockets at air defense systems to understand their limits is a military intelligence campaign. Enforcing a blockade/embargo is a core military function. Hit and run tactics works. Urban warfare is as necessary as mountain warfare and jungle warfare. In essence, the USA invented the label of terrorist to vilify people instead of tactics, and then drifted its usage away from “using civilian terror” towards “guerilla tactics”. This became enshrined in law in the USA as “enemy combatant”, a third label never before seen in law. Previously there was civilian and military. There’s a thousand years of law and jurisprudence using those two categories, from international treaties to domestic military courts to penal codes. This new third status, invented by the USA, discards all of that and allows the USA to do anything they want to anyone they deem fits this new legal category, which maps directly to whoever they call a “terrorist” which, as I think I’ve established, is far more about fighting guerillas than it is about fighting terrorism.

freagle ,

It tried? I’m fairly certain it did.

freagle ,

Capturing Kiev requires invading Ukraine first. Russia has invaded Ukraine. It has demonstrated absolutely zero intent so far to march troops into Kiev.

freagle , (edited )

Serious question, have you been able to find ANY Western reporting about any Russian feints during the first week of the invasion? I haven’t been able to. Which is strange, because we have West Point saying that during some counter-offensives there were Russian feints, appearing to earnestly be asking the question of whether deception is still a major part of war. If you read the Wikipedia article about that 64km convoy, it’s pretty much relying entirely on Western reporting, and the reports are pretty silly. Soldiers captured from that convoy only had 3 days of rations? Does that sound like a viable approach to capturing and holding a capital city? I don’t think so. Just read that article and the sources critically - it doesn’t look like a serious maneuver. It looks a lot like a feint.

So if Russia is known to use feints, but NONE of the initial maneuvers were reported as feints, then we are left with either A) Russia launched zero feints, or B) we haven’t labeled which maneuvers were feints. That convoy looks A LOT like a feint to me. And how would a successful feint be reported by Western propaganda rags? As a victory for the West for having defeated such a great maneuver that also demonstrates the silliness of the opponent. That opponent, by the way, has destroyed Ukraine and there is no chance of Ukrainian victory at this point. So, do we trust the analysis that the convoy was an earnest maneuver, or do we see the evidence and think “perhaps this was a feint”?

freagle ,

It’s stunning how quickly they shut up when you expose their brain rot.

sordid , to worldnews German

(Tasnim) Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi cautioned the Zionist regime to avoid further adventurism, lest it receive a blow much harder than the lawful retaliatory strike

that Iran launched against the Israeli military targets early Sunday.

🔗 https://tn.ai/3068219

@worldnews

freagle ,

You’re really going to have to withhold judgment on damage reports from entities with deeply vested interests both domestically and internationally to not talk about damage. From the video footage, it looks like damage was done to military targets deep inside Israel and that’s all that’s needed. The prevailing Israeli strategic hypothesis was that their air defense prevented Iran from striking inside Israel without exposing itself. The video footage appears to invalidate this hypothesis. For a very paltry amount of money, Iran causes Israeli air defense to consume hundreds of millions of dollars of materiel and still fail to stop the attack. A slightly larger attack will therefore do more damage, and a coordinated multi-actor attack will do even more. That’s all the victory Iran needed, it broke the taboo of attacking Israel directly, it broke the hypothesis of impenetrability, and it did so while giving Israel advanced warning. Remember, during the strike, the skies in Gaza were quiet because Israel downed its entire air force.

No, Iran did not launch a decapitation attack, no it didn’t launch a massive attack. It launched a precisely measured attack and it was the most cost effective attack we’ve seen so far. Couple this with Iran seizing a massive Israeli shipping vessel and gathering support from allies, and this is a major development in the conflict.

It will be Israel, the USA, and Western Europe who will expand this conflict, and that will bring further international condemnation and collaboration. If Iran went significantly bigger, not only would it risk strategic depletion, it would also be more politically ambiguous for its allies and future allies.

But all accounts except for total damage done, this was a successful operation.

freagle ,

Really though? The USA has been at war for 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776. I don’t think Bush started the trend.

freagle ,

Even Russia’s “hypersonic” missiles are shot down by plain ol’ patriot systems on the regular.

This is untrue. Patriot systems have only downed missiles that travel at hypersonic but slow down in final approach (Kinzhal). The US military recognized that these are not “true hypersonics” because of this. The Zircon missile has only been used 5 times in Ukraine, none of have been shot down. It is currently considered the fastest missile in the world with no known defense.

And even with that, the Kinzhal has been incredibly effective, as you can easily see based on the fact that Russia is hitting strategic targets in Western Ukraine including the capital.

freagle ,

Do you have any idea how long senators serve? Racist, violent, war hawk, regressive leaders stay in office in the USA for decades. How about family dynasties? The number of years American and European democracies are managed by family dynasties is terrible. And then of course you have fascists getting elected to high office in Italy.

All the evidence shows that Western democracies are going to end in violence.

Interestingly, Cuba has more democracy than anything ever experienced in the North Atlantic. Because the point isn’t to use democracy to get representation, it’s to use democracy to change society in the interests of the people.

freagle ,

Harvard conducted a study of Chinese sentiment for literally 15 years and found 95.5% approval among Chinese citizens of their national government and communist party.

freagle ,

Maybe your Chinese friends are in the ultra-minority. Spare me your anecdotes. Read the Harvard study. 15 years of world-class research doesn’t fold to your friends in the UK

freagle ,

…cause I’m the king of wishful thinking

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