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Sunforged ,

I don’t want to see it, I want a reputable journalist to verify it’s existence.

Sunforged ,

Vulfpeck is so talented, but everything seems, idk too tight, too clean, too by the numbers? I say this as a white man but it really feels like white funk in the worst ways.

Sunforged ,

If you want some reporting on the labor movement that isn’t anti-labor check out On Strike!, they have new episodes every Thursday.

Sunforged ,

17% of union membership is on strike. They need to go full 100% and show who has the power and stand in solidarity as one.

Sunforged ,

I understand what the goal is and the theory behind it. The thing is the strike fund has enough funds for an all out strike that is 10 months long. That would be billions lost for the big three if they wanted to try to outlast the union, not to mention fund raising the union could do to extend it if needed.

Easing the strike up this week because one came to the table isn’t great. With only 17% striking, that leaves 83% working without a contract, that’s a big problem especially if this approach is going to be a drawn out process.

Sunforged ,

I have been following this strike very closely, I understand the theory behind it. Do you know what is more costly to the big three than forcing a shell game? A full on strike.

Shawn Fain wants to eat the rich? Hit them hard and make them hurt. Three weeks of gamesmanship is enough. You want the big three to play off each other? Full strike until all three come to the same agreement.

Sunforged ,

They have enough in their strike fund for an all out strike for 10 months. How long do you think these negotiations should be stretched out?

Sunforged ,

My opinion are based on what works for labor rights. A pragmatic “lets not hurt the business” approach hasn’t worked for the past 4 decades.

Having union members continue to work during this partial strike is only giving the big 3 more time to lay off workers. Fain has sold this as a positive, saying those laid off can claim unemployment instead of pulling from the strike fund. There are alot of problems with this, there is little support for laid of members to navigate claiming unemployment, with every state having different requirements it’s left many confused on where they stand with the strike and union. Also UAW has one of the biggest strike coffers in the country, at this time of unprecedented labor support they need to use that and go all out. That’s how the writers guild just got their unprecedented win last week, and most of those writers are still out on the picket lines in solidarity with the SAG, as a united front.

I’ve been hopeful of Fain’s approach but it’s doing more harm than good within the union, when members were ready to stand together they were instead left as confused as the big 3 were, which if you’re just looking at dollars in the bank was a win I guess, but moral is more important. Again they are not hurting in their strike fund, this is not a newly formed union it’s one of the oldest.

Sunforged ,

Union members are being laid off, leading to confusion and hurting moral. The war of attrition is more than just the strike fund, and it is sad one of the largest and well funded unions is making a show of worrying over their coffers when they have more than enough to win three contract fights.

Sunforged ,

I am so confused by this comment. Your talking like we have nothing in history to compare this to when the writers strike won after a 3 month strike just last week.

Sunforged , (edited )

$825,000,000 in the current strike fund. 400,000 current active members. I’m not sure what the contract length is so let’s say 4 years, that’s a minimun.

$825,000,000 ÷ 4 years ÷ 12 months ÷ 400,000 members = 42.96 per month per member to rebuild the fund for the next contract.

That is not to mention the current fight is an existential one for the union. As EV funding coming from the state has all gone to none union shops, it has hurt the unions strength. Part of this current fight is to demand expansion of the union to EV shops, growing that member number and preventing the union from becoming irrelevant.

Sunforged ,

The difference is that Hollywood was actually at a much weaker position for a number of reasons. The first is that the nature of the business means the production house had many projects in the can, waiting to release. This meant the impact of the strike could be rode out for longer before releases began being impacted by the strike. In comparison as soon as UAW closes down a shop the big 3 start losing money.

The second is Hollywood was up against wall street, there was a strong interest by investors to break up the strike, not just in Hollywood but in all industries. The reasoning is that labor wins translate to more labor fights, they want to demoralize any attempt to get a fair share and reduce profits. UAW is in a stronger position today than the writers and actors were when they started, so why is Fain pumping the breaks when he could be building more momentum (for both his members and the labor movement at large) with a full strike?

You might disagree but my criticism is a valid one, moral within the union isn’t great and it would be easy to fix by fighting together.

Sunforged , (edited )

You asked for the math. I provided you the numbers, if you don’t trust me go check. It’s frustrating that I put time into looking up my response only to be met by skepticism.

Sunforged ,

I’ve e explained the problems ad nauseum in this thread.

  • Layoffs happening during this partial strike.
  • Demoralization of members due to confusion and a broken front.
  • Public concerns over stretching out the strike fund when in truth it’s the strongest in the nation. Which leads many uniformed in the labor movement to question the power of a strike.
Sunforged OP ,

Good union representation starts from knowledge of the industry. If you want to work for a union the best thing to do is go get a job in an industry you know and get active in their union.

A union that just hires straight outside hires is going to both be difficult for you to get into a position for making positive change, and will most likely lean more bureaucratic and need change to originate from the rank and file members to begin with.

Sunforged ,

Don’t just hope, help build momentum by getting involved! There is so much to be done, either unionizing new workplaces, forming militant sub committees within existing unions and most importantly organizing outside the democratic party to force them out of center.

Workers Strike Back is where my wife and I have decided to best spend our time with, but there are others to join. The important part is to get off the internet and start making it happen.

Sunforged ,

And the bosses have no vested interest selling this idea to you. Corporate media has no vested interest feeding this narrative to you. Worker owned co-ops are a thing, and seizure from a corporation can be successful.

Sunforged , (edited )

Understanding what conditions lead to business unionism, in which the people at the top of the union no longer represent the rank and file members, is a vital part of the current labor movement. Every other post you have made in this thread lack any nuance whatsoever.

Rank and file union members need a militant approach to business owners. Being apart of a union isn’t just paying dues and expecting other people will take care of it. No full time union staff should take home more than the average union member wage, keep their skin in the game and give them a reason to fight. Unions power doesn’t come from a leaders ability to negotiate with the bosses, it is in fact the opposite, unions leadership ability to negotiate comes from the power of the rank and file members.

Sunforged ,

They unfortunately didn’t fight to end the two tier system for part time workers, which is why your math is off. The part time employees aren’t very engaged with the union and there was/is little attempt from the union the reach out to that section of their members to educate and involve them.

The union leadership has a vested interest in selling that they got an amazing deal, but this was a huge failure to fight over. Two teir pay is used by the owners to ensure their employees aren’t a united front.

Sunforged ,

And you said nothing good would come from discourse.
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Sunforged ,

Out here pumping out more SW memes than I have in the last two weeks.

Sunforged ,

Solidarity to Production Assistants! Solidarity to all workers!

Sunforged ,

YoU wOuLdN’t StEaL a CaR!

Sunforged ,

I just block the bots, I want to see what real people care enough to post.

Sunforged ,

That’s what I meant, but appreciate the clarification.

Sunforged ,

Welcome to the new web. Nothing is optimal, it’s a good intro for people. The setting is there and that’s what matters.

Sunforged ,

why isn’t their a massive push to get other assembly line workers pay and benefits equal to those of auto? they get all the headlines, money, and support. why is that?

Union members spend time and their own money organizing. When they fight it garners headlines. Those headlines increase public support because when they win it lifts local economies while increasing other labor fights chance of success.

The industry standards are set by union shops, the pay at other manufacturers would be significantly less if unions hadn’t pushed to get their members good contracts. The massive push you are questioning has to come internally from workers at non-union shops ready to start organizing themselves. There are a ton of resources and organizations waiting to help them fight, but ultimately it has to be led by rank and file workers for it to have any chance of success.

Sunforged ,

When we fight we win.

Sunforged , (edited )

You would prefer urban sprawl? Humans gotta live somewhere, density is ecologically the best way to do it.

Sunforged ,

Is there a less ugly way to live?

Sunforged ,

The funniest part of you posting Dale memes is that people feel to need to comment their dislike of them. Meanwhile they get hundreds of upvotes.

Why are there so many conspiracy theories regarding soy beans?

Dear lemmy, someone very close to my heart is starting to fall into conspiracy theories. It’s heartbreaking. Among other things, he has now told me that soy beans are not supposed to be consumed by human beings and is convinced that despite the literal centuries of human soy bean cultivation and consumption, we shouldn’t eat...

Sunforged ,

Humans have been cultivating soybeans for an estimated 9000 years. To think that a food staple in so many cultures worldwide is not healthy is completely xenophobic. Maybe don’t tell him that, but the framing of different cultures might be helpful. If it wasn’t healthy humans wouldn’t have thrived spending resources to grow it.

Sunforged ,

And it’s effect on the human body is widely known. You’re not making the point you’re trying to.

Sunforged ,

Flawed in that a staple of civilizations’ diets is somehow comparable to a known intoxicant?

Sunforged ,

Except it’s not chance dude. Soy is one of the richest and cheapest sources of protein.

Sunforged ,

Just add what you want to say as if we were having a normal conversation. Do you talk to people you know like this? So fucking exhausting dude.

Sunforged , (edited )

I made a single point, that soy conspiracies are racist and dismiss the civilizations that were raised on them. You latched onto one bit in a dismissive (or ignorant) attempt to debate bro with me. Which is especially jarring if you agree with me when you could have just added a point.

Sunforged ,

Which is a hole in thier own logic, my point entirely.

Sunforged ,

That typically qualifier went right over your head Mr. Literal.

Sunforged ,

UAW has publicly stated they are withholding endorsement of Biden until he supports the UAW’s efforts to unionize electric vehicle facilities. That has yet to happen. Biden has actual influence over the big three that rank and file don’t, standing on the picket line is very performative unless it’s followed up by action.

For all you libs who take this criticism personally, understand that this is a good start. But that’s all it is. Applauding this without critical analysis is how Democrats diffuse political energy without delivering material gains. The working class cannot sit back, the pressure must force their hands to do more.

Sunforged ,

Labor’s power is our ability to withhold our labor. To take away the ability to strike is to take away our power.

Biden’s follow up has gotten plenty of coverage, the media has been falling over itself to sell it as a huge win, when the reality is he got rail worker 4 days sick leave and the ability to turn 2 vacation days into sick leave. Compair that to here in Seattle where anyone working within city limits is getting 12 days off a year and it becomes obvious what bread crumbs Biden actually got them. Not to mention that the administration only started pushing the rail companies in earnest after national pressure was mounting from the disaster in East Palestine.

Could it be people critical of Biden are actually paying closer attention than yourself?

Sunforged ,

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Sunforged ,

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Sunforged ,

I did that to annoy you personally.

Sunforged ,

Ford has allegedly agreed to end the two teir system, increasing pay as well as some other demands I can’t remember off the top of my head. Basically Ford seems to be negotiating while the other two are just throwing up their hands and saying they’ll just move things overseas before meeting any union demands.

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