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Flax_vert ,

It is a cult, while the CCP has killed them which is a bit much, I can see why they don’t like them. Don’t think of it as “enemy of my enemy is my friend”

Flax_vert ,

Isn’t Snapchat terrible at security? Heard of someone who made a plane bombing joke in a private message and the airport wifi intercepted it and he got arrested

Flax_vert ,

Why are you looking up “motorcycle girl sexy”?

Flax_vert ,

Only thing you need to do to realise how bad they are is to play Chess against it. Vs using a chessbot from 30 years ago, it really shows.

Flax_vert ,

Why can’t they just use a simple calendar app system where you book it off??? Who would use a large language model for that rubbish?

Flax_vert ,

Wasn’t there something about CV’s for job applications and the AI ended up figuring out that black people or women are less likely to get the job so adjusted accordingly? Or how in England during COVID, poorer schools got lower predicted grades while more upper schools got higher, even against the Teacher’s grade, regardless of the work done

Flax_vert ,

Yes and we should. We should also make childcare free.

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Literally.

Flax_vert ,

That’s a strawman. We do.

Flax_vert ,

This isn’t proof, it’s a strawman argument.

Flax_vert ,

We should prioritise supporting the creation of more human lives

'I will not feed a demon': YouTuber Ruby Franke's child abuse case rooted in religious extremism (apnews.com)

The malnourished and badly bruised son of a parenting advice YouTuber politely asks a neighbor to take him to the nearest police station in newly released video from the day his mother and her business partner were arrested on child abuse charges in southern Utah....

Flax_vert ,

It’s just that she’s crazy. Christianity in no way encourages abuse of children or even people who are demon possessed.

Psalm 127:3 ESV‬ [3] Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.

‭Matthew 19:13-15 ESV‬ [13] Then children were brought to him that he might lay his hands on them and pray. The disciples rebuked the people, [14] but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.” [15] And he laid his hands on them and went away.

‭Luke 17:2 ESV‬ [2] It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.

It’s just a paranoid/crazy person masquerading as religious.

Edit: turns out she isn’t even a Christian, she’s a Mormon. I guessed she was a Protestant Christian from your message.

Flax_vert ,

So you just want to murder the majority of the world’s population who are religious because you think that’ll stop atrocities? I think you’re part of the problem, if you vehemently hate someone with different beliefs to that degree.

Flax_vert ,

She’s literally a member of the LDS which is a weird cult, you cannot just paint every religious person with the same brush

Flax_vert ,

Christianity doesn’t advocate abusing children at all. And most children that suffer are for non religious reasons, usually mental illness or sex trafficking. Religious people who are mentally ill just use it as a veil.

Flax_vert ,

Yeah, it seems the edgy atheists of Lemmy are trying to use this to further their “murder all religious people” rhetoric which is basically just Atheist Jihad

Flax_vert ,
  1. This is Mormonism, not Christianity
  2. Christianity NEVER advocates violence against Children.

‭Psalm 127:3 ESV‬ [3] Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.

‭Matthew 19:13-15 ESV‬ [13] Then children were brought to him that he might lay his hands on them and pray. The disciples rebuked the people, [14] but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.” [15] And he laid his hands on them and went away.

‭Luke 17:2 ESV‬ [2] It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin.

Flax_vert ,

Or it’s just a religious person who’s also mentally ill.

Flax_vert ,

But if you eliminate priests then more people will just become priests to replace them. Before you know it you’ll have the majority of the world’s population in jail.

There’s no evidence for Christianity hurting humans. This antitheistic zealotry is no different than ISIS. “I’m right about god(s) and everyone else who disagrees must suffer”

Flax_vert ,

You really just took what I said out of context.

“I guessed she was a Protestant Christian from your message”

Because you started talking about Protestants.

Mormons are as Christian as Muslims are Christians.

Flax_vert ,

Oh boy! Bible verses taken out of context! Let’s look into these, shall we?

Deuteronomy was about preparing Israel for the coming of Messiah. It’s not a command for today’s Christian people. Same with Exodus. They exist as historical record.

Psalm 137 is lamenting what Babylon did to Israel. It was an eye for an eye rhetoric, as the Babylonians had murdered their children. Again, Psalms aren’t prescriptions. They’re songs written by a Jewish king.

Mormons aren’t Christian. They reject the Trinity for a start and have additional scripture, just like Islam with their Qur’an or Jehovah’s witnesses with the Watchtower publications.

Flax_vert ,

So do Muslims. They both claim the original ways got corrupted and they have a prophet who came back to restore the “true” faith.

Although Mormons seemingly/arguably revere the Bible and Jesus more than Muslims do, the entire religion is basically alien to Christianity, even being polytheist (Islam is still Monotheist like Christianity)

It’s like Joseph Smith wanted to create a religion for personal power, so just started with Christianity as a foundation and then completely distorted it beyond recognition, that it basically doesn’t resemble the original faith any more than Islam does

Flax_vert ,

Didn’t say it was a good thing. Description, not prescription. King David was angry, generally this falls under “imprecatory psalms”. Basically nobody in the Bible was perfect apart from Jesus which is the whole point. Selfish laws are given and screwed up things happen. Saying the Old Testament is a literal word of God is unfortunately an oversimplification which even some Christians don’t pay too much attention to as they should. It’s a historical record of God’s people. Sure there are good lessons and things to learn in there, and it demonstrates why we needed Jesus. But basically everyone has some form of shortcoming apart from Jesus. It’s there for honesty (criteria of embarrassment) rather than for flat out glorification.

Christianity is hinged primarily on the Life, death and most importantly - resurrection of Jesus Christ. When God became incarnate as a man and lived the perfect life to die a death we all deserved.

Flax_vert ,

You basically just skipped over what I said, because the Bible is not literally the word of God. The old testament was the compilation of scriptures that the second temple Jews used in the time of Jesus that Jesus mentioned, and the New Testament were all written first generation/apostolic accounts of Jesus and theology. So of course there’s going to be descriptions of evil, compromises made with evil to fulfill the greater picture, concessions, etc. Even Jesus made this clear about Old Testament law:

‭Matthew 19:8 ESV‬ He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

So when it came to laws regarding Israel, they had to have laws to prevent immorality from leaking in and also have laws about keeping slaves as taking slaves was normal in that society. But it is worth mentioning that the slaves were treated better in comparison. Israel could barely behave with these concessions nevermind without. And in the grand scheme of things, you’re forgetting this is a finite life compared with infinity.

Heck. People nowadays cannot even obey Jesus’ “do not divorce your wife” law. We still need framework to compromise with that.

Flax_vert ,

The fact that you quoted Judges clearly shows that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Judges is never prescription. It’s a documentary of the horrors the Israelites committed when there was no authority. It literally ends with

‭"In those days there was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes."

Anyway, your Isaac story, you forgot the part where Abraham literally doesn’t sacrifice Isaac. It was merely a test of loyalty. God tells him not to.

Psalm 137 - That’s a poem by King David who was rather upset about the Babylonians ruining his kingdom. The last verse is eye-for-an-eye and imprecatory - where David was like “you murdered our children, blessed is the day when we can exact our revenge”. Of course that wouldn’t make it moral, as we know how Jesus spoke on the eye-for-an-eye doctrine.

Leviticus - These were laws for keeping order in a strained and threatened society in a deeply immoral world. That’s why there’s need for strictness and lack of tolerance, especially with the Israelites constantly rebelling as they did throughout history.

‭Exodus 21 (not 11) is about fair treatment of slaves in the time of the Exodus. We know Moses made concessions to keep them pleased. That’s why he required that slaves were treated fairly.

Genesis 19 shows Lot compromising with evil whenever people of Sodom. Lot was being threatened to have his house guests raped. Sure, him offering his daughters weren’t any better, but this is straying into victim blaming. Sodom got rightfully destroyed in the end. Again, this is description, not prescription. You cannot act like everything protrayed in the Bible is someone doing the right thing. It’s far from it.

Deuteronomy 20:14, the alternative was letting them starve in the ruined city.

Flax_vert ,

I’m sorry you had a bad experience. However, it’s not that one deserves torment for existing, it’s that one deserves punishment for sin. If you look at the state of the world, it’s filled with sin. Societies cannot function because of greed, people are oppressed, madmen have nuclear bombs capable of destroying the world, and the constant suffering in Gaza and Ukraine, humanity is inherently evil. And we all have participated in that evil in some kind of way. Asking for forgiveness and trying to do the right thing isn’t a bad thing, it’s the correct thing.

With churches being toxic - every environment is. It doesn’t make it right. What people identifying as Christian do and act doesn’t represent Christianity as a whole. People will abuse children regardless, whether it be in schools, etc. I don’t live in the United States, I live in the United Kingdom, so I cannot speak for there.

Homeschooling isn’t a Christian doctrine. I personally think it is cringe retreatism and a good way to create an atheist.

Flax_vert ,

Matthew 5:17 is showing that Jesus fulfills them and brings them to realisation. Not enforcing them.

Protestants don’t reject the Trinity?

Flax_vert ,

The trinity is literally in the Bible and Jesus Himself literally referenced it.

Flax_vert , (edited )

Jesus was the fulfillment of the old laws as they were in preparation of His coming. And it depends what law Jesus was referring to. In John 8 He literally stopped a stoning which would have been justified under said law.

As Jesus said: ‭Matthew 22:37-40 ESV‬

[37] And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. [38] This is the great and first commandment. [39] And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. [40] On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

and St Paul also wrote about this:

‭Galatians 3:15-29 ESV‬

[15] To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been ratified. [16] Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. [17] This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. [18] For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. [19] Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. [20] Now an intermediary implies more than one, but God is one. [21] Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law. [22] But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. [23] Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. [24] So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. [25] But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, [26] for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. [27] For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.

Christianity - The Gospel is Good News. As we are free from this law through Christ. And we can be freed from our sin.

Catholics and Orthodox, despite being ecclesiastical, still recognise Protestants as Christians even if lesser Christians. Oneness pentecostals aren’t considered Christians either. Denying the trinity is weirdly enough the first sign of being a cult.

Flax_vert ,

There’s no child abuse prescribed. Doesn’t mean that there are no descriptions of it happening.

I believe in the religion because a person called Jesus was Prophecied about, was actually born, performed miracles and fulfilled prophecies, claimed to be God, then died and rose again back to life, was physically seen by many, before ascending into heaven.

Flax_vert ,

but rather from the modern, secular culture in which you were born.

🤣 and where did this culture get their morality from?

It’s absolutely obvious that you’re not supposed to use the book of Judges as “what to do”. The Bible isn’t entirely a list of instructions or commandments. It’s a record of God’s people.

Murdering and raping children has been a crime since… Forever. To claim that such a thing was permissible until the last century when “secular culture” stepped in to save it is incredibly unhinged historical revisionism. But of course that’s what you need to conclude something as mad as atheism. Scripture NEVER said what happened in Judges was okay. NOT ONCE. Israel literally got split in half over it. The Bible also makes it clear that NOBODY is righteous.

Romans 3:9-31 ESV‬

[9] What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, [10] as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; [11] no one understands; no one seeks for God. [12] All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” [13] “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” [14] “Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness.” [15] “Their feet are swift to shed blood; [16] in their paths are ruin and misery, [17] and the way of peace they have not known.” [18] “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” [19] Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. [20] For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. [21] But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— [22] the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: [23] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, [24] and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, [25] whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. [26] It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. [27] Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith. [28] For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. [29] Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, [30] since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. [31] Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

Flax_vert ,

Wasn’t it child sacrifice and wife burning- the type of pagan crap Christians eradicated?

Flax_vert ,

What you described the trinity as being was Modalism, which the Nicene creed doesn’t teach. The definition of the trinity is in the Athanasian Creed.

To lay what the Bible clearly teaches:

There is one God. Jesus is God. Jesus always existed. The Holy Spirit is God. The Holy Spirit is referenced in both testaments. The Father is God. The Father always existed. Jesus prays to the Father. The Father and the Holy spirit are both present alongside each other at Jesus’ baptism. Jesus flat out equates the Father, Son and Holy Spirit together when talking of Baptism.

God is above creation and our laws. We only understand our unitarian nature - that we can only be in one place at one time. Just like how we being three dimensional creatures can only relate to three dimensions. So it wouldn’t make sense for God to abide by our laws, but to be manifest in three persons spanning time and space and the laws of this universe.

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No it isn’t, Mormons believe in three gods and that the father was once a human like us.

God “was once as one of us” and “all the spirits that God ever sent into the world” were likewise “susceptible of enlargement.” Joseph Smith preached that long before the world was formed, God found “himself in the midst” of these beings and “saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself”

www.churchofjesuschrist.org/…/becoming-like-god?l…

But where Latter-day Saints differ from other Christian religions is in their belief that God and Jesus Christ are glorified, physical beings and that each member of the Godhead is a separate being.

www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/…/godhead?lang=…

Flax_vert ,

So the first the Bible is saying something you want it to say to make the argument “Christianity bad”, and whenever teaching has context provided and is elaborated on further on in the scripture, then it’s a “contradiction”.

Got it.

Flax_vert ,

I think they find a lot of stuff here surprising. My chinese friend was really shocked when they found out that you could just buy and own land, and it’s yours.

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I think to survive in that situation they expect you to become a landlord and rent out your property, that’s rough

Flax_vert ,

This is Lemmy. What were you expecting?

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I don’t see people moving from Mastodon to threads

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Most people on Mastodon hate mainstream social media for a reason

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What if you’re on a superflat world and there are no trees

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I think horses have quite a lot of stamina, the only animals actually comparable to humans. Which is why we ride them.

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