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MonsiuerPatEBrown ,

unfortunately the apple tree is the proletariat

applejacks ,
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lmao

Thekingoflorda ,
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Hey, please edit your post to follow rule 1 and rule 2. Thank you (:

Xylight ,
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I remember this type of post being 90% of r/coolguides

KingBoo ,

I appreciate the image, but “justice” as it’s described from the image, isn’t what people want progressively.

I used to agree with the picture, everyone should be tested fairly.

Expectations are a bit different though. Execution of what I’ve seen the public want is the Equality picture, but parties switch ladders.

Modern equality isn’t about fairness, it’s about your turn to benefit from the unfairness that’s always inherent in the system. We don’t want to change the system as much as we want our turn.

Life is never fair. The only things that change are perspectives and volume.

dmention7 ,

Execution of what I’ve seen the public want is the Equality picture, but parties switch ladders.

Nah, that’s just how work towards Equity is portrayed by those who are already standing on the ladder that reaches the tree. I.e., a bunch of fear-mongering about how giving someone else a taller ladder will somehow shrink their own ladder.

Saying “life is never fair” is basically just saying we can’t build a taller ladder, so the only (implicitly unacceptable) solution is to swap ladders.

Boinketh ,

It’s worth noting that affirmative action is not an example of equity as shown here. AA would be more like giving the left kid the right kid’s ladder so he could stack it on top of his own. Then, the right kid can’t get any fruit and the left kid might get some fruit, but also has a decent chance of just falling over and getting hurt because you can’t stack 2 ladders and expect things to go well.

Equity would be more like offering special classes to kids in disadvantaged communities to help them better prepare for college, and justice would be using federal money to make sure all public schools have adequate funding to provide a high quality education.

EhList ,
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The thing people seem to miss is we want equity of opportunity not equity of outcomes. If I put in half the work of another person doing the same job as me I shouldn’t expect the same results for my work.

MrMobius ,

I would even call it social justice. Great visual analogy nonetheless.

olpappy ,
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https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/a153e62c-935b-4d8f-808a-dbefd77948ce.jpeg

Amilo159 OP ,
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Wtf

HelloHotel ,
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Thats how one would describe it in an unhelpfully cynical way, lol

bcjin ,

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    mayo ,

    Society isn’t a tree it’s a machine so we can bend it all we like.

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    HelloHotel ,
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    pannel 2 only kindof makes sense. I mabe wrong, but I beleve it leaves out somthing along the lines of “we all have access but for some are their harder to use”

    match ,
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    humans typically consider it righteous to reduce the amount of human suffering, including at the expense of plants and for some, including at the expense of animals

    surewhynotlem ,

    Why should we alter the tree just for the beneficiaries liking

    We designed the tree, so we should fix the tree now that we realize it has problems. The analogy is to the society that we created.

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    ArcaneSlime ,

    Well, technically, through selective breeding over thousands of years we kinda did design the tree.

    CookieJarObserver ,
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    Justice is Occupational health and safety inspection telling them they are not allowed to use such leaders and especially not unsupervised.

    Piecemakers3Dprints ,
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    You know that’s now how trees work…

    jasondj ,

    OSHA gonna have a word about how they’re using those ladders…

    Compactor9679 ,

    Hahaha the old “they are all wrong give me stuff for free”

    cloudy1999 ,

    This is a helpful explanation. The distinction between these terms is not so obvious and people believe they know the meanings without comprehending them.

    imPastaSyndrome ,

    Justice is killing the little boy.

    Anti_Weeb_Penguin ,
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    Reddit is that way sir

    SocialMediaRefugee ,

    What if one person is more skilled at apple picking or the other just wants to stand on the ground

    imPastaSyndrome ,

    YEAH BUT WHAT IF ONE PERSON IS MADE OF APPLES AND IS PSYCHIC? WHAT IF THE TREE WAS ABORTION? WHAT IF BEER WAS VODKA AND GOD WAS A CHICKEN?

    afunkysongaday ,

    FIRST ONE WOULD BE REALLY NICE BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE UNLIMITED ACCESS TO APPLES AND KNOW WHEN I WANT AN APPLE SO PROBABLY WOULD GIVE ME FREE APPLES. SECOND ONE DOES NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE TREES CANT GET PREGNANT SO THEY CAN NOT BE ABORTED EITHER. IF BEER WAS VODKA WE WOULD JUST WATER IT DOWN IF WE WANT A MILD BUZZ. IF GOD WAS A CHICKEN CHICKEN WOULD BE BETTER OFF.

    ditherwither ,

    WHY ARE WE SCREAMING?

    Cinnamon3431 ,

    then they’d still have the same opportunities and one could choose to stay off the ladder instead of picking apples?!

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