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maegul , to fediverse
@maegul@hachyderm.io avatar

People are actually on BlueSky

There's now a decent measurement of user numbers (https://bskycharts.edavis.dev/edavis.dev/bskycharts.edavis.dev/bsky_users_total.html) ...

They've got about 1.6M MAUs ...
& 0.8M Weekly unique users & 0.340M Daily.

That's not nothing!

Roughly double mastodon and 60% more than the whole fediverse (by MAUs, see fedidb.org).

Bluesky is quite "international" with large Japanese and Brazilian popltns, and there's real attrition happening IMO.

Still, let the protocol wars begin I suppose?

@fediverse

mkarliner ,
@mkarliner@mastodon.modern-industry.com avatar

@maegul @Loukas @fediverse

So none of you thinks the Threads / Activity Pub thing will have an impact?

My personal opinion is that its a strategic move to avoid regulation by being able to claim they are open.

ml , to academicchatter
@ml@ecoevo.social avatar

Most of Plant Science Twitter seems to be on Bluesky. What are your favorite Fediverse accounts (institutional and/or personal) for keeping up with academic botanical news? @plantscience @academicchatter

seanbala ,
@seanbala@mas.to avatar

@ml @plantscience @academicchatter @PlantTeaching @jennifermach @ELS @botanyone @AnnBot @bomengidsnl @MastodonEngineering I noticed in an analysis of my inactive accounts many inactive academic ones seem to have shifted over to BlueSky. A bit sad but maybe they will come back someday, or maybe someone the ActivityPub + BlueSky Bridge will finally launch and then you can continue to follow them here!

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BBCRD , to random
@BBCRD@social.bbc avatar

We’ve just published an update about this Mastodon trial which has been running for the last 6 months – you can read it here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2024-02-extending-our-mastodon-social-media-trial

We are going to continue our trial here for at least another six months while we share our findings internally and seek more engagement from other BBC teams. We are also planning to start researching ways to publish more BBC content using ActivityPub.

Deadman , (edited ) to technology
@Deadman@mstdn.social avatar

How do I use this account on lemmy and vice-versa?
Is the upvote of lemmy the same as favorite of mastodon? (they do not sync) if not then what metric are these two uniquely gauged?
@technology




Deadman , to technology
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  • FinchHaven ,
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    @Deadman

    Couple thoughts, because I read some common misunderstandings

    1. The Fediverse is a broad, generic concept like "democracy"

    No one is running "Fediverse" anywhere or is homed on a "Fediverse" instance

    1. is a protocol, a specification if you will

    It must be implemented in a specific software distribution (to varying degrees of accuracy) to exist

    Again, no one is running "ActivityPub" anywhere or is homed on an "ActivityPub" instance

    1. "Viewing content from other , one needs to follow a profile from that instance"

    and

    "Explicitly viewing instance content, user needs to sign up on their instance"

    No

    I can go to your instance in a web browser, to /public/local/ and read the public posts on your specific instance

    Here: https://mstdn.social/public/local

    But no, I cannot see anyone's Home feed unless I follow that person, or follow hashtags which we use and Follow in common

    Which is the only reason I saw your post in the first place, the hashtag

    cc @technology

    NatureMC , to writers
    @NatureMC@mastodon.online avatar

    The learning curve was steep but exciting. It brought me back to what I’ve been preaching for umpteen years: make your own web space the anchor of your actions!
    I'm back with blogging and new plans believing in decentralised networking:
    https://www.cronenburg.net/blogging/ @writers

    Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads

    I think it’s pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change...

    muzzle , to fediverse in Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads

    I think that interoperation with big walled gardens is part of the reason why exists. Furthermore, there are no technical measures to completely shut off , and the social measures are unlikely to work.

    I know the risks, I’m old enough to remember embracing and extinguishing browsers and open documents, defederating from and predatory tactics.

    On the other hand, I think that federation with the big players is unstoppable. The protocol is open and there is no way to get every last instance to defederate. If people want to see the big players’ content they’ll move to an instance that federates with them. And defederating from those that connect to threads sounds like a Zealot’s suicide pact.

    I think that the best way to ensure that plays fair is to create a fediverse that is as diverse, open and vibrant as possible, with plenty of open services (Lemmy, mastodon, misskey…) and commercial ones (Flipboard, tumblr…) so that threads users will feel compelled to interact and miss us if Meta stops federating or shadowbans external content.

    nm , (edited ) to technology
    @nm@veganism.social avatar

    I just finished my hour-long interview with Oxford University concerning their study of Mastodon and decentralized social media.

    They were especially interested in what we’ve done here at Veganism Social, as we have our own fork with custom features that address common complaints such as content discoverability.

    Veganism Social’s use case was exemplary of the benefits of decentralizion. Our moderation is uniquely anti-speciesist, and the community has a clear purpose beyond ‘general’.

    My analyses of the technological and sociological benefits of decentralization are extensive. I (currently) have a deep understanding of Mastodon’s code-base, and how to use it. I also worked as a software developer for centralized social media, and now moderate a subreddit with 100k members.

    I could not possibly exhaust myself of exhilarating insights to share.

    Surely, the Oxford study will broaden awareness of how decentralized social media will benefit society.

    Next time my wife asks me to stop info-dumping, I’ll banter that Oxford might think it’s worth listening to. 🤭

    They’re sending me an Amazon gift card as compensation, and of course I’m spending it all on candy.

    @technology @Gargron @Mastodon @feditips
    @fediversereport @fediverse

    RookieNerd , to fediverse
    @RookieNerd@hachyderm.io avatar

    @fediverse Let's face it. When talking about the Fediverse, it is very hard to sell interoperability between different types of instances as a major advantage.

    youronlyone ,
    @youronlyone@c.im avatar

    @RookieNerd @fediverse

    It's just the way it is. Different hosts, different host configurations, different fediverse software, different software configs, and all that.

    Few people are aware today but when Google Mail was first beta tested (very early invite days), we did experience a lot of issues. Mails from Y!Mail not arriving. There was also one time when a mail from another server arrives garbled.

    Apologies for using the email analogy again.

    Let me use the mobile analogy as another example. Here in the Philippines, I don't know in other countries, we've had interoperability issues a decade or two ago. The Philippines is the SMS capital of the world, so imagine our frustration because the two major (and only) SMS providers cannot interoperate reliably.

    Two different networks. Two different systems. Trying to federate to each other.

    There will indeed be interoperability issues.

    They haven't really solved it, but it was at least minimised.

    So, yes, we have to accept that it is going to be a long road until we achieve the level wherein these challenges you have mentioned are minimised in the fediverse as well. I'm sure, politics aside, the developers are finding ways. ^_^

    youronlyone ,
    @youronlyone@c.im avatar

    @RookieNerd @fediverse

    Do not recommend one software and/or one instance.

    Using your scenario, would you recommend photography instances based on knowing Mastodon only allows up to 4 “attached” images? Not only that, Mastodon will only display 4 images even if there are more than that?

    Or, are you going to recommend designed for images. Or, maybe , , , , which all allow more than 4 images and will display all the images even if it exceeds their software's attach limit?

    Quite frankly, in my opinion, with the image display alone, Mastodon is highly not recommended. So, the number of users and instances Mastodon have does not make it the best software, as you have mentioned earlier, “Mastodon is the level of UX other projects should aim to”. It's not.

    The best approach is we understand what the user needs and suggest to them the appropriate software and instances that will suit their needs.

    Let's forget about the Fediverse for a while.

    We have to remember that not everyone is on Twitter or Facebook. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals who only have an Instagram account. Why? They don't need Twitter and Facebook.

    In Korea, for example, they have their own culture and platforms for communication Twitter/Facebook-like, so they don't need those. But many of them have Instagram accounts.

    Now, let's go back to the Fediverse.

    If those are the users we are reaching out to, then there should be no problem recommending Pixelfed. Because for these target market, their only concern and type of use is to share, well, photos or their latest digital artwork. They don't care about a Twitter/Facebook-like experience or use.

    That brings us back to the features of . It is an “added benefit”.

    1. Users who want to follow this content creator can do so using their existing account.

    Okay, you can't do this with , the last time I checked, however, you can do it with . That's a Lemmy limitation, not the fediverse.

    1. For the content creator who migrated to the fediverse, in particular, Pixelfed in our scenario, they have a greater reach because they're federated.

    (Extra: You can actually turn Pixelfed into a regular Twitter-like software if you are using the web UI. Although, last time I heard it will be removed eventually.)

    (Extra 2: BookWyrm also allows Twitter-like feeds and interaction, it's not restricted to just books.)

    gpollara , to academicchatter
    @gpollara@med-mastodon.com avatar

    Good article about demise of / #X for .

    I'm happy to admit pre-Musk Twitter was broadly useful and engaging, but quality of the platform has suffered since.

    Sad thing is that for now, the resulting will benefit no one.

    Hopefully people disperse to various connected services, such as or even . In the end we're a , and talking to each other should be facilated. @academicchatter

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02554-0

    BBC_News_Labs , to random
    @BBC_News_Labs@social.bbc avatar

    When telling big national news stories, can we deliver local digital versions to every town in the UK? What about to every ward? Read more about our latest experiment in semi-automated content generation here https://bbcnewslabs.co.uk/news/2023/salco-2023/

    gpollara ,
    @gpollara@med-mastodon.com avatar

    @BBC_News_Labs could you feed this hyperlocal news content to a hyperlocal-specific Mastodon account (or any other social media platform), given that the BBC news website doesn't have a means to integrate the output you generate?

    humanetech , to fediverse in Peer-bay?
    @humanetech@lemmy.ml avatar

    Have a look at , federated decentral classified ad software using : codeberg.org/grindhold/flohmarktBy @grindhold

    DannyBoy , to youshouldknow

    YSK: When making posts on Lemmy/Kbin always put at the end some hashtags related to your post topic.

    So users from Mastodon and Pixelfed can interact with your post without even need to use their Lemmy/Kbin account or learn about "how to use the ActivityPub".
    This also helps to have more content avaliable across the Fediverse due to better discoverability.

    @youshouldknow

    TNLNYC , to random
    @TNLNYC@mastodon.social avatar

    Reading the tea-leaves, here's where we are in terms of US Fediverse migrations:

    Chapter 1 (of X)
    Chapter 3 (of X)
    (Facebook and Instagram): Avoided due to launch of
    Not started yet
    Not started yet
    Not started yet
    Unlikely
    Unlikely
    : Avoided due to integration with

    TNLNYC OP ,
    @TNLNYC@mastodon.social avatar

    @sabret00the Yup. is not enough for video distribution. PeerTube is interesting indeed but the storage/bandwidth issue represents a challenge in terms of business model. You need to have a HUGE infrastructure to deal with volumes of video distribution. And that's costly. Not sure it's a business model that can work only through donation/subscription.

    hyde , to piracy
    @hyde@lazybear.social avatar

    What Lemmy .. Group do you follow ( still not sure how do you call them)

    For now I just have :

    I'm sure there are more interesting ones that I'm not aware of :)

    And the best part you dont even have to have an account there thanks to and the

    osma , to fediverse
    @osma@mas.to avatar

    The Big Social score so far:

    • Twitter: burning
    • Reddit: detonated a bomb under itself
    • Meta: rumored to join with a new app
    • YouTube: videos were always 2nd to "native" ones on the other networks, but they could trivially open an firehose (and maintain their preroll ads while doing so)
    • rest of Google: never found organic success and don't have a bet in the game apart from wanting to index everything

    No predictions here, just stating the obvious. @fediverse

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