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mycorrhiza ,

libs: this man will be the next hitler

also libs: I stand with trump after this appalling act

dejected_warp_core ,

also libs: I stand with trump after this appalling act

Hard disagree. From what I’m reading, politicians are condemning an attempt at homicide, nothing more. Voters are following suit.

ThePac ,

I seriously do not understand the “My idealogical rival got shot at, I now endorse my idealogical rival.” take. Nobody that isn’t already voting for Trump LIKES Trump.

dejected_warp_core ,

I now endorse my idealogical rival.

I’m confused. Who is endorsing Trump? Clearly you don’t mean wishing the man well or condemning this attempt on his life?

ThePac ,

also libs: I stand with trump after this appalling act

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

what a bunch of cowards

Daxtron2 ,

I too love spreading disinformation propaganda online

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

What disinformation? These peckerwood democrats LITERALLY CAME OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER to condemn the ‘violence’ against someone they don’t consider “enemies”. After ALL THE BULLSHIT SPOKEN OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

What disinformation, cac? These parties are the same wing on the same bird.

ThePac ,

If you don’t expect everybody working in politics to condemn political violence then I don’t know what the fuck you could possibly expect.

“I condemn violence against my rival.” is not “I endorse Trump.” How stupid do you have to be to equivicate those?

Daxtron2 ,

They’re tankies lol, willing patsies for disinformation.

Daxtron2 , (edited )

Condemning politica violence is not voting for a candidate you wet napkin

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Yes, after spending eight years talking about ‘existential enemy’ this and ‘democracy is on the line’ that; you can’t have it both ways you erectile failure. Literal dickhead trying to play that game.

Daxtron2 ,

“murder is cool when it’s against the guys I don’t like”

I don’t want him alive either but saying that libs are going to vote for him over this is purely fiction.

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

Incredible

MarxMadness ,

Libs: Violence is never acceptable, even if Trump is an immediate threat to harm countless people.

Also libs: Let’s all thank the Secret Service for immediately killing the shooter.

NoSpiritAnimal ,
@NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world avatar

No I saw the video, they did a group hug first

Birch ,

There are moments in history that completely change the course of events for decades to come. We just witnessed literal inches between two possibly extremely different futures. Very strange feeling.

roscoe ,

As much as I loathe the guy, I think we all dodged a bullet.

If he died of natural causes last month I don’t think the MAGAts would have rallied behind Desantis, or whomever got the nomination. I’m not saying they wouldn’t have voted for them, just that the excitement wouldn’t be there.

If this has succeeded, the supporters would have transferred and been even more pumped up. And sympathy from those weird fuck undecideds could make the difference, not just in the presidency, but both chambers of Congress, and for their policy goals too.

Riding the wake of an assassination the draconian shit they would push through could have been far worse than anything Trump would have been able to accomplish in a second term.

Take civil rights legislation in the 60s; a lot of what LBJ accomplished was credited to the national feeling after the Kennedy assassination. Would JFK have been able to accomplish all that if he had served eight years with public sentiment toward civil rights being divided?

It sucks that this is boosting his chances in November. But a martyr, a new figurehead, and a more energized base could have been far worse.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Take civil rights legislation in the 60s; a lot of what LBJ accomplished was credited to the national feeling after the Kennedy assassination. Would JFK have been able to accomplish all that if he had served eight years with public sentiment toward civil rights being divided?

I think the same thing about the Apollo program. Kennedy gave that speech and then died, and now not only did we have to beat the Russians we had to do it for a beloved slain president.

There’s also an episode of Red Dwarf where they go back in time and convince Kennedy to be the second shooter on the grassy knoll, because his survival would have started WWIII.

PanArab ,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

The speed at which he was turned into a hero and merchandise was made is a testament to the efficiency and responsiveness of capitalism.

ipkpjersi ,

Yep, the person who did this is an idiot. They don’t realize all they did was help his cause and give him that much stronger of a chance of winning presidency.

I mean, they probably don’t realize anything anymore given that they had bullets actually go through them.

datavoid ,

If they wanted to help the democrats, they shot the wrong candidate

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Literally true, Trump was handed the best PR on a silver platter, and even if he croaked his replacement has a sure win.

ipkpjersi ,

Not if he didn’t miss.

Actually, I guess the democrats would lose either way. It would have only prevented Trump from winning (which many people would probably say is a good thing, but for many it would still not be enough of course), not ensuring the democrats win. So yeah, you’re right.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Liberals still believe in Great Man Theory.

If he died, another would take his place and wins for sure as revenge.

Now that he lived, he has excellent PR.

Biden is constantly taking Ls with his voterbase, like pursuance of Genocide and general brain melting.

Trump is constantly on the rise with his voterbase.

This is why Adventurism doesn’t work, and why Leftists need to join an org like PSL and work towards building dual power.

ipkpjersi ,

Sure but his replacement wouldn’t be him, so at least some harm would have been avoided that way, but you’re right. It would have been much better if this never happened.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes and no. We have no crystal ball, ultimately the material conditions for fascism are still present in the US, and they will not go away even with 10 straight DNC victories. America is a dying Empire, so reactionary thinking, trying to turn the clock back, is on the rise.

Leftism must become the status quo to survive fascism.

There would be some harm reduction, yes, and I would have probably celebrated had Trump been popped, but his replacement would be just as bad, merely delayed.

filoria ,

Alibaba has already gone crazy with it lmao it’s so funny

supertrucker ,

Are you kidding? The only things in this universe capable of superluminal speeds are a good rumor and merchandising opportunities

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Also monarchy. You guillotine a king and the monarchy instantly jumps to the next one.

supertrucker ,

That’s probably why being a crown prince in medieval times was more hazardous than a bering strait crab fisherman running for president of the United States

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

Actually it was very very safe, if you compare it with peasants or burghers with occupational hazard being very low. Well, unless you were an Ottoman prince.

LolifhdhsgLolifhdhsg ,

Best president hands down

P1r4nha ,

Bush dodged better.

PolandIsAStateOfMind ,
@PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml avatar

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7faae6b9-b84b-45aa-9122-87942a6811ca.png That’s why when throwing things at US president you should use something with more AOE

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

This is why range time and affordability of the caliber you practice with is still important

someacnt_ ,

I was freaking scared when I saw lots of people in my country was cheering Trump’s ralley. It’s not even the old people, they were in their 20s-30s. If Trump succeeds, I don’t see it going well in my country as well… How do I survive in a fascist country? Sad.

frauddogg , (edited )
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

How do I survive in a fascist country? Sad.

With a gun, plenty of ammunition, and disciplined range time. Hell, join a gun club before the right starts pushing for tighter gun control.

ipkpjersi ,

I’m pretty sure he will succeed, unfortunately.

jroid8 ,

Don’t worry,its’s not just the US. Many 3rd world countries are dealing with the same problem if not worse. Otherwise why would so many migrate to US despite it’s healthcare prices and the growing gap between the wealthy and poor?

stalemate666 ,

Trump isn’t a fascist, he decentralized a ton of shit while in office, Trudeau is far closer to a fascist than Trump will ever be.

Objection ,

The word “privatization” originates with describing the economic policy of Nazi Germany

NigelFrobisher ,

Your man here’s going to go (even more) mental when he gets back in.

resin85 ,

Seems appropriate to drop this here:

encyclopedia.ushmm.org/…/the-reichstag-fire

On February 27, 1933, the German parliament (Reichstag) building burned down. The Nazi leadership and its coalition partners used the fire to claim that Communists were planning a violent uprising. They claimed that emergency legislation was needed to prevent this. The resulting act, commonly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, abolished a number of constitutional protections and paved the way for Nazi dictatorship.

useyourmainfinger ,

So the shooter was accurate enough to wing him in the ear from outside the event, but also wild enough to hit people in the crowd, ok then…

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Are you trying to imply that it was staged and that they shot Trump’s ear for plausibility? If you want to make a conspiracy theory, at least make it believable.

anachronist ,

Exclusive footage of the incident: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu3s9w98MYs

trk ,
@trk@aussie.zone avatar

Well, that’s America buggered.

slug ,

do you mean anything by this beyond his election chances? i’m failing to imagine what policies would change based on this

theilleist ,

The election chances have just shot up.

CrabAndBroom ,

If there were any security/civil rights/general spying on people bills that were floating around but were too unpalatable to push through, those are most likely going through now.

Also if the shooter turns out to be anything other than a straight white cis male, then whatever group they were part of is probably gonna have a bad time for the foreseeable future.

Moonguide ,

Let’s be honest, even if its a good ole boy, the nutters will find a way to blame it on minorities and/or the “left”.

frauddogg , (edited )
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

They’re probably fabricating the manifesto right now. Dollars to donuts is they’re going to bullshit the would-be shooter as gay or trans. This is gonna be a Reichstag Fire moment; all because some little twerp civilian couldn’t hit a qualifier shot.

Apparently the shooter’s a registered Republican! This just got infinitely funnier.

Moonguide ,

Well, the nutters are just in time for gymnastics. Olympics are in a few days. If America’s bullshit didn’t spray out to the rest of the world like a hippopotamus with diahrrea, I’d grab popcorn.

frauddogg ,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I’m not sure how this spins tbh; dude’s Repub registration was recently The only bit I’ve seen otherwise is a 15 buck donation to I want to say ActBlue or somebody on the so-called-progressive side of things; so I’d love to see how this twists and permutates.

yogthos ,
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https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/0deca9f9-4675-413f-acc6-ae34b19d8b12.png

njm1314 ,

This is what you get from that rhetoric. Trump has been inviting it for a while. You have the Heritage Foundation, his Brain Trust, telling us that if we don’t sit down and submit we will be put down forcibly. Well this is what you get Donnie.

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

“yeah, keep doing that and some useless fuck will spectacularly fail to assassinate you, giving a huge boost to your election campaign, take that!”

forgotmylastusername ,

How the flap of a butterfly wing can change history.

yogthos ,
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https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/55a2acec-3ef2-4a92-807f-e4e3c1c083fc.png

Mindfury ,
@Mindfury@hexbear.net avatar

doohickey remains undefeated

akakunai ,

It’s not like the Japanese Prime Minister (and former Prime Ministers) don’t have security, but the disparity of security compared to Secret Service protected individual is huge.

The fact that the killer managed to get so close to Abe without being screened is indicative of the fact that such an attack was so unexpected in Japan.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean they guy grazed Trump, so it’s not like secret service prevented the shooting.

akakunai , (edited )

True, I’m just saying that if someone wants to assassinate a current or former American President, that would be a massively more difficult hit.

The Abe killer was unscreened (like everyone else in attendance), and managed to walk directly up to Abe from behind and fire shots from 7, then only 5 metres away.

Regardless, meme funny.

its_prolly_fine ,

Just an inch to the right

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