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VinesNFluff ,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Mfer really said “if I’m going down I’m taking my party and my entire country with me” : 💀

GlendatheGayWitch ,

Who is funding this push? I wouldn’t be surprised is it was the far right or Russia or a mix of both. They have been doing everything they can to keep the whole conversation on Biden’s age while ignoring everything that the GOP has forced on us.

MrPhibb ,
@MrPhibb@reddthat.com avatar

Apparently one bad performance, a performance that has little to do with the actual job, is enough to get him fired? Yes, yes, I know, he’s stumbled, he’s not perfect, but is anyone? I find the whole response to be sus as hell, and more than a bit racist. One debate and their willing to dump him? This sounds more like a paid attack on Biden fronted by sell out Democrats than a real response. And the rather noticeable lack of suggesting the VP, a black woman, takes over sounds more than a little bit racist. Why not bring Harris up? Give her a bigger more visible role in the administration and the campaign? Show whether or not she’s up for the job? Essential let the American people test drive her as a president.

TheLepidopterists ,
@TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net avatar

This is a good bit.

muad_dibber ,
@muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml avatar
Fidel_Cashflow ,
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atro_city ,

The DNC and the American people are once again to blame for the rise of fascism in their own country. They knew Biden was too old to run again, they knew he's senile, they didn't try and find another candidate, didn't rally behind one, didn't bother to vote for anybody younger.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Post-debate poll showed that majority of Democrat voters aren’t even voting for Biden. They are voting for “against Trump.” Democrats had four years to find a candidate that people would actually want to vote for, but instead they pulled out the 2020 playbook thinking it would work the same.

TonyTonyChopper ,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

It’s Her Turn guys Pokemon Go to the polls

CyberMonkey404 ,

DNC putting out senile candidate without primaries

must be the people’s fault!

Carrolade ,

Remember the write-in uncommitted thing? Those were primaries.

atro_city ,

You couldn't even be bothered to check. There were 2 other democratic candidates. And there are independent candidates.

So yeah, voters have options, they just don't want to use them.

CyberMonkey404 ,

You are plain amazing

thesporkeffect ,

A truly beautiful mind

magiccupcake ,

A bunch of nobodies ran against biden, no serious contenders.

atro_city ,

What made them "not serious"? Did they have shit opinions? Did they forget their lines? Or was it just that they weren't popular enough?

I bet you it's the latter. Well who makes people popular? We fucking do. We share their shit on social media. We talk about them on forums, with family, friends, and strangers. We buy their merch and plaster it all over the place. But because the US population was told "Biden's your only chance", they rallied behind him.

Not behind some independent with values, with new proposals, with credentials, with opinions of this age, with the ability to stay awake during a debate. No. The citizens of the USA got behind some old fart they were told to.

pingveno ,

There’s a history here. Back with Jimmy Carter, he had a primary challenge from Ted Kennedy. Carter won, but only by 51% to 37%. He was already having trouble of course, but it was just one more thing that hurt him and got Reagan in power. We all know how that went. So now the general practice is to clear the field for the incumbent if they choose to run for reelection. Biden hasn’t been given any special out.

Trump is of course an odd case since he’s not an incumbent, but his grip on the Republican Party gives him a position near to that of an incumbent. He was always by far and away the frontrunner, and every other Republican candidate was for the chattering class.

Cryan24 ,

If they could convince Michelle Obama to run, she would dominate right now.

LarkinDePark ,

Just get a monarchy.

hglman ,

We did on Monday.

LarkinDePark ,

True true.

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

We assume she would cause she has name recognition and the Obama’s we pretty well liked by the Democrat base. However, the issue is she isn’t out participating in unscripted press conferences sharing her political agenda for the future. She could run, but it could also be a disaster. My personal opinion is AOC would be the best choice. She’s proven herself in my opinion, and the right hate her so much that she’d get all the media attention.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Lol no. Gen Z alone will ensure her demise for deleting flavor from everyone’s school lunches under the fake guise of health.

jballs ,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Biden had a bad debate: faces calls to withdraw from the race.

Trump convicted of 34 felonies: record fund raising.

velox_vulnus ,

“Was real world a Monty Python show?”

“Always has been.”

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

Biden didn’t have a bad debate. He and his team showed America that he’s had a significant decline in mental capacity and instead gaslit the public and media about it.

charles ,
@charles@lemmy.world avatar

Seriously. Can NYT Op-Ed run 100% “Trump should drop out” articles every time he does something far more disqualifying? They’ll never run another opinion again.

sudo ,

They tried that back in 2016 and it just made him stronger.

macabrett ,

You’re being willfully obtuse. It wasn’t a bad debate, it was 90 minutes of confirmation that Biden was unfit for office. It was a 90 minute confirmation of what had been dubbed “right-wing propaganda” until that very moment.

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

It was likewise 90 minutes of confirmation that Trump is unfair for office: a non-stop steam of rambling nonsense and lies. A vote for Biden is a vote for a capable administration to do the actual work while grandpa sunsets. A vote for Trump is a vote for an administration of lackeys and con-man champing at the bit to turn the loot the country and turn it into a Christo-fascist kleptocracy.

If you think a Commander in Chief who is definitely going to betray the country for personal gain is an acceptance alternative to one who might make a mistake because he’s old, you deserve the hellscape you’ll get. The rest of us don’t though.

CherenkovBlue ,

We know that already, though, about Trump. We have known for years, and people either will or will not vote for Trump - their mind is already made up on kt. The Biden debate performance is a big deal because now we know Biden is not fit for the Presidency any more either, not because he did a bad job at it but simply because he is too old to go on. So now we need to talk about it and process it.

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

And an old sleepy man with a competent administration is still preferable to an old corrupt man with a Christo-fascist administration. It’s a sucky choice, but an extremely easy one.

CherenkovBlue ,

It’s true, but it’s not good.

agamemnonymous ,
@agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh absolutely agreed, but the more discouraged apathetic voters, the more likely the Christo-fascists win. I have no interest in exacerbating that right now.

goferking0 ,

Well yeah. That’s just a drop in the long of things that trump supporters think makes him good.

Biden’s facing calls because it’s obvious he’s at the elderly stage where he shouldn’t be leading the country.

eran_morad , (edited )

Congratulations, you seem to have realized that republicans are backward degenerate wastes-of-carbon.

Lucidlethargy ,

Biden dropping out could actually lead to Trump’s, defeat is the right person is chosen. If he dies of old age before the election, however, then we may see a landslide defeat.

That said, Trump is just as likely to die of old age at this point, if not moreso due to his propensity to indulge in hamburders and rage-fueled rants.

I guess stay I’m saying is fuck all of this. I’ve never felt less patriotic on the fourth of July than this year… What a fucking shitshow.

Edit: But hey, maybe Biden is right. Stubbornness and self-aggrandizing behavior worked out great for RBG, right?

Pyr_Pressure ,

It’s because Democrats don’t worship Biden as some Jesus reborn patriot whereas Republicans worship a literally prideful, envious, slothly, wrathful, greedy, gluttonous, and lustful old man as some Jesus reborn candidate.

nekandro ,

ITS HER TURN

ArcticAmphibian ,

I don’t think she has as good a chance as he does. Biden’s policy has always been on the moderate side of the democratic spectrum, whereas Harris’s has trended true-left or even far-left. Biden will pull more moderates and centrists, the key group in this election (MAGA folks are already decided and anyone who’s even vaguely left is too).

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

The Overton window has shifted so far right that Biden is considered moderate-left and Harris far left.

In any sensible country Harris’s ideas are center-right at best.

LarkinDePark ,

Genocide is a far right thing if anything.

kurcatovium ,

When you go either of directions far enough, you’ll eventually meet woth people going the other way.

OurToothbrush ,

Hey, please refrain from horse shoe theory stuff in this community

kurcatovium ,

Ah, sorry, I forgot where I post…

Tangentism ,

Biden’s policy has always been on the moderate side of the democratic spectrum

This is the guy who was calling for restricting social welfare programs 25 years ago while wholeheartedly supporting Israeli expansion.

He has been anything but moderate

Zaktor ,

Biden will pull more moderates and centrists, the key group in this election

Says fucking who?

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

If you listen to the Biden press conferences, it is like listening to a preacher try to gaslight you that an imaginary being will come down out of the sky. It’s like… “Biden has accomplished more than any President in the last 100 years, you know he has, we all know he has. Just as I said, and you’ve all seen for yourself. It’s true and you can’t deny it.”

ArcticAmphibian ,

Says an analysis done by me in 15 minutes on a train ride. I should have looked at polling data - despite Harris being further left, Biden is old as dirt. Apparently in ABC and Pew polls she beats him. Should have researched that one better.

thesporkeffect ,

I have yet to meet someone who is analytically deficient enough to think Harris is far left, who’s not also racist enough to think that she’s definitionally far-left due to her skin color.

Prove me wrong

ArcticAmphibian ,

Calling me a racist is harsh and uncalled for. She is indeed, compared to most US politicians, far left. Not talking about global scale. Attached is data from nonpartisan and nonprofit GovTrack regarding her time as a senator. www.govtrack.us/congress/members/…/2019

muad_dibber ,
@muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Kamala Harris

Much credit to this post.

muad_dibber ,
@muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Continued…

atro_city ,

Biden's alter ego is female?

brown567 ,

His VP is?

atro_city ,

So is Hillary. I guess only OP knows who they mean.

sudo ,

It legitimately should be Kamala’s turn but “It’s Her Turn” was a 2016 slogan of Hillary.

sudo ,

He joking that they’ll run Hillary again.

atro_city ,

Other people are guessing the reference is Harris. No idea.

ShinkanTrain ,

She might be the only person on Earth capable of doing worse than Biden if nominated except maaaaaybe Jeb! Bush

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

“Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make Jack!”

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