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Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

  • Putin has signed a decree that Russia will welcome foreigners who want to escape Western liberal ideals.
  • Applicants may include those from countries unaligned with "Russian spiritual and moral values."
  • The application process has been simplified, and visas will be issued as soon as next month.
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HikingVet ,

Huh, is the meat grinder not getting enough?

WhatAmLemmy ,

Probably also a massive brain drain to boot.

MrStankov ,

Yeah, I don’t think this will help very much with that particular issue…

AllNewTypeFace ,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

I don’t know. Maybe they need more cryptocurrency experts and sovcit hedge-lawyers to help with getting around sanctions

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Probably. “Come to Russia! Is safe place! Is not place with liberals! What? No, we don’t need bodies for military! No conscription of foreigners here!”

Steve ,

Fast and easy to get citizenship!

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Plus a little state sponsored travel, for a treat!

Steve ,

See the world* for free!

*Ukraine

9488fcea02a9 ,

Service guarantees citizenship!

Would you like to know more?

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Yes, please take them all.

TransplantedSconie ,

Go Republicans. Go to the land of *true freedom!

^^^true ^^^freedom ^^^not ^^^guaranteed ^^^nether ^^^is ^^^food, ^^^goods, ^^^and ^^^conscription ^^^highly ^^^likely. ^^^Visas ^^^surrendered ^^^apon ^^^entry ^^^and ^^^use ^^^as ^^^a ^^^bargaining ^^^chip ^^^for ^^^Russian ^^^spies ^^^guaranteed.

tunetardis ,

Dang, that reads like a commercial for pharmaceuticals.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

That would be a sideways move.

Changing from one oligarchy to another oligarchy.

Well, if you become a whistleblower or if you are a journalist that the west wants to arrest, or get rid of, that might be your best bet.

Edward Snowden is alive and kicking.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

this is just rebranding oligarchy in a way thats palatable to religious whackjobs, like US conservatives.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

rebranding oligarchy

How? The billionaires and corporations own the most important resources while having great influence over our elections and politicians.

We are only a republic or a “democracy” in our dreams, but in reality, we are also already a fascist country with our police state.

Not to mention the Patriot Act and the many more policies that follow.

The USA PATRIOT Act was a landmark Act of the United States Congress, signed into law by President George W. Bush.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

nothing youve said here negates my point. these kinds of messages arent meant for people paying attention.

im not disagreeing with you. rebranding is all about optics, and attempting to change peoples view of something... often a terrible thing.

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting! Thanks for expanding on your thoughts a bit!

cdf12345 ,

I dunno, seems like there’s a significantly higher chance of falling from a window and dying in Russia

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

As an American, I know about our regime-change wars and about our military leaks, including some of our real civilian causalities in our forever wars.

Not to mention our civil rights activists keep dying, as well as other information about the three letter agencies.

I try to avoid races to the bottom, especially when comparing citizen deaths in the US and Russia.

It will not make any nation more popular.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

As an American

[X] Doubt

jimmydoreisalefty ,
@jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world avatar

No Doubt is a great band.

As an American

I add that due to encounters with non-Americans.

We are strangers on the internet; feel free to think what you will, I will not try to force it on you, hahaha.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Edward Snowden is alive and kicking.

Alexei Navalny isn’t. I wonder what the difference could be?

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Chelsea Manning isn’t even in prison anymore.

TheMandalorian ,
@TheMandalorian@sffa.community avatar

I wonder what the difference could be?

Actually, it’s pretty simple. Edward Snowden exposed government surveillance and ran away, seeking asylum to protect himself after revealing what he believed was in the public’s interest. Navalny, on the other hand, wasn’t motivated by public interest—he actively betrayed his country, aligning with foreign interests and openly opposing the government. Unlike Snowden, who wisely fled, Navalny stayed behind like an imbecile. And guess what happens to traitors in Russia? It’s not like in the US, where all that matters is money, fast food, and the latest social media trends—Russia doesn’t mess around when it comes to nationalism.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Snowden never wanted to be in Russia. He was trapped there inadvertently by diplomats.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

RuSsiAn moral values.

hahahaha!

Quacksalber ,

Russian moral values:

  1. Papa Putin is always right
  2. See point 1
gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

…Also something about the gays.

whotookkarl ,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

About to be a bunch of confused conservatives showing up in Kursk with a few bullets and no training?

HikingVet ,

Who quickly realise that hunting deer isn’t a proper way to prepare for modern combat.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

My deer shoot back, don’t yours?

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_Avenger

bazus1 ,

One gets the rifle, the other gets the spare mag.

Bonesince1997 ,

I hope these people put their money where their mouth is and leave.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

Let's use trump's plane to start the maga transfer to Russia.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Epstein’s plane www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/…/ar-AA1oG9fh 🙂

overload ,

I know a lot of people who should go! They won’t of course, but it would be great if they did.

francisfordpoopola ,
@francisfordpoopola@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t expect people who take him up on that will enjoy it if coming from America. Just a guess.

Eggyhead ,

Putin would probably turn them right around and drop them in the middle of the Ukrainian frontlines while laughing.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

russia is not conservative at all, but it is a fascist police state without 1st, 2nd, in fact all amendments I’ve checked up to the 10th, so they’re going to love it, I guess.

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

Well, most countries aren't going to have the same constitutional rights as the USA has. In the same way, the US doesn't give their citizens the same rights as those in other countries receive. As such, I'm not sure if there's too much point comparing the two.

Otherwise. Yes, it's not going to be a nice place to live, and anyone that chooses this option has only themselves to blame when they realise they made a deal with the leopard that has a history of biting faces off.

kevindqc ,

yahoo.com/…/conservative-family-disappointed-movi…

Also wtf is this ad

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8f0d25a2-13d2-48fb-917e-df201ef85975.png

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Sometimes clickbait is so bad that it’s good again

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

I'm not sure if that story is onionesque or real. Now, that uncertaintly is a problem with the modern world.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

My comment was about the irony them “escaping” to have freedom of speech, gun freedom and trial by jury of their peers to a country that has none of those, not being a bad place to live. It’s not about “other countries”. Other countries can do whatever they want.

(yea, I think I commented in the wrong thread, this was meant to go on the other one where magats ponder moving to russia)

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

Yeah, my point is, comparing them to constitutional amendments doesn't make too much sense for the rest of us.

But you know, I think they do have trial by jury. Just, I think like the elections there, the jury gets told the result, before they decide it.

If they want to own guns, no problem. The government will supply them, and even provide transportation to a place they can use them. (I hope the /s is implied here).

rayyy ,

Shhh, They THINK Putin’s Russia is a conservative utopia so don’t crush their dreams.

Rakonat ,

Oh please let this happen, the alt right fleeing to Russia thinking they’ll have better lives only to get shoved into a shitty overcrowded apartment or forced to work on a farm with 19th century farming technology would be the funniest fucking thing.

rustyfish ,
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

None of this will happen. They will be sent directly to the front ending up as fertiliser for Ukrainian ground like the rest of the Russian military.

SendMePhotos ,

Wouldn’t this be the equivalent to like…

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3dc4d393-f1e7-4179-b19f-6c5305b2dde9.jpeg

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