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TransplantedSconie ,

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Magister ,
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Enough about this douche canoe, can he disappear from social sphere? I don’t want to hear about this guy rant every day for the next 50 years !

cyborganism ,

Which one?

Empricorn ,

Yes.

Magister ,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

You hit it right!

OhStopYellingAtMe ,
@OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world avatar

There is literally an avenue in which we can put him on a rocket and send him to Mars. I am all for it.

Tyfud ,

No, because he’s rich and influencial and keeps saying and doing shit that gets him front page in the news. That’s the way the world works unfortunately.

Lucidlethargy ,

I think we’d all love that. I genuinely wish the asshole would take a trip to see the titanic.

dogsnest ,
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PunchingWood ,

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    protist , (edited )

    Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.

    Lmao

    But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.

    You don’t have to sit there and imagine things, because they are a publicly traded company…

    It’s clear Musk’s politics have turned off a ton of potential customers worldwide. Tesla sales are falling off, while eg the Hyundai Ioniq is setting sales records in the US

    PunchingWood ,

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    protist ,

    Tesla’s market share in Europe declined from 27.8% to 19.9% year over year as of this past March. Tesla’s sales in Europe fell 36% while BMW and Volvo had 60% and 70% growth in EV sales over the same period, respectively.

    whichev.net/…/tesla-tops-european-car-sales-chart…

    PunchingWood , (edited )

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    protist ,

    Would-be Tesla buyers snub company as Musk’s reputation dips

    Infynis ,
    @Infynis@midwest.social avatar

    When every other company manufacturing the same thing as you is making massive gains, because the whole market is expanding, and you’re suddenly posting losses, that’s going to raise so questions

    MerchantsOfMisery ,

    Is it weird that a part of me wishes I was as confident in myself being right about stuff as you are about yourself?

    takeda ,

    LOL, seems like you are only are aware of Tesla losses and try to explain it that it is because a power grid can’t handle it.

    In reality it is that Tesla is losing customers which are fleeing to other manufacturers.

    As for the energy consumption, for example in California 25% of new car sales are BHEV. Currently electric cars use 1% of the power and the estimates are that by 2035 (when sales of new ICE vehicles will be banned) this will go to 4%.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Since these cars easily take up the same as an entire household overnight.

    You mean the same as the household take up overnight where most are sleeping and have turned almost everything off? That’s not actually a lot…

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    “lots of people are buying Tesla’s”

    “People are stepping away from fully electric vehicles.”

    Which is it? Are Tesla’s strong or weak? Or are we somehow in a situation where EVs are weak and Tesla is strong?

    HootinNHollerin ,

    Also in America. Here in California I know several people that sold their Tesla because of lonE skuM and many more who wouldn’t buy because of him. I myself have told Tesla recruiters in two occasions that I’d never work for that piece of shit

    RestrictedAccount ,

    Recruiters??!?!!?!

    Why in the world would he possibly need to recruit people:

    • To come live in abject fear of his every whim?
    • To be expected to work 24 hours a day seven days a week?
    • To not be able to have a family?

    All the best talent will be lining up for some of that!!!

    At this point having Tesla on your résumé means you couldn’t do better.

    Wispy2891 ,

    “yes, i would like to relocate and dedicate my life to a company that might fire the entire team just because one day the CEO snorted too much ketamine”

    st3ph3n ,

    I was in the market for an EV shortly after he took over twitter. I ruled Tesla out because I do not want to be seen to support that douche in any way.

    IphtashuFitz ,

    I actually bought my Tesla about a year before he took over Twitter. The supercharger network has proven itself on a few long trips, which is the main reason I’m holding onto it for now.

    I can pretty much guarantee that my next car will be an EV but definitely not a Tesla. Since virtually all EV manufacturers have announced support for J3400 in the next few years I figure there will be a handful of decent options for me to choose from in 5-10 years.

    st3ph3n ,

    They’re certainly massively ahead of the competition with their charging network, I won’t argue with that. I’m fortunate enough that I can charge at home and that’s pretty much all I have ever done. I have not needed to do a cross-country road trip.

    spamfajitas ,

    I’m one. When he moved Tesla engineers to work on Twitter and then went on an unhinged anti-Trans rant in the middle of an earnings call, I shopped around and traded in my model 3. I always assumed the major selling point of a Tesla was the software, but he keeps fucking with the people who make it.

    candybrie ,

    I think a lot of it was the charging network. What happened with that again? Oh yeah. He fired that whole team.

    NoiseColor ,

    I think he should sue the EU customers! It’s unfair their political beliefs are hurting his business.

    Empricorn ,

    Good idea. Then, this entitled, out-of-touch crybaby can sue the kid that took his juice in Kindergarten!

    bappity ,
    @bappity@lemmy.world avatar

    yes… hahaha… YES!

    wildcardology ,

    Hmmm, I smell a lawsuit.

    saltesc ,

    Really? It’s pa-ywalled, but based on just the title; really?

    It’s not the poor reputation Teslas have at being cars? Recalls, performance, ongoing costs, longevity, manufacturing quality…etc. But, it’s X instead?

    Jimbabwe ,

    The cars are actually great, unfortunately

    nokturne213 ,

    Are they though?

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Nah. They’re pretty and quick, but they have the price tag of a brand new Jaguar and the build quality of a 1980s Yugo.

    nokturne213 ,

    So their build quality has improved recently?

    Rayspekt ,

    Why not both?

    Cruxifux ,

    I hate that becoming a certain level of rich can guarantee that you will never not be rich even if you’re the dumbest motherfucker that ever tried to do business.

    Zetta ,

    Maybe it doesn’t reach your criteria of a “certain level”, but there’s definitely stories of people winning significant amounts of money in the lottery and being broke years later because they are morons.

    ripcord ,
    @ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

    Right. You do have to still be smart enough in some way to retain the money/power. Or lucky/connected enough (daddy is watching out that dumb-as-rocks junior doesn’t blow all of his $100m, etc)

    barsquid ,

    You need to reach the level and get the nepotism engine to collect you. A lotto winner could probably attend an event and sieg heil in front of Peter Thiel. That’s like calling a taxi into nepotism. Typical lotto winners just spend it all frivolously instead.

    cuerdo ,

    It doesn’t, Cris Rock explained it very well:

    Kobe Bryant is rich, he gets a paycheck of 100 mil per year.

    Now, wealthy is the guy that signs that check.

    mPony ,

    Chris Rock is a pretty smart motherfucker.

    rezifon ,

    We should make sure he gets the big piece of chicken

    Cruxifux ,

    You’re not seriously comparing a lotto winner to someone with global oligarch levels of wealth right now, are you? I have more respect for your intelligence than that my man.

    Kazumara ,

    Depends on how you count it. Would you consider Steve Jobs to be rich? Seems to me that he managed to find a way to graduate from his status as a rich person with his stupidity.

    Cruxifux ,

    I mean he was rich, wasn’t he? Did he die poor somehow? I don’t know enough about him.

    Kazumara ,

    No no, I’m just saying sometimes they are dumb enough to kill themselves. That’s one way they sometimes manage to get out being rich 😂

    Cheems ,
    @Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean that was just hubris

    nilloc ,

    Yes. Terminal hubris, society needs better options than relying on it to take care of our inequality problem though.

    Eat the rich.

    Ghyste ,

    Elon Musk ’s backing of Donald Trump is hurting Tesla’s struggling EV business in Europe

    ExperiencedWinter ,

    Elon Musk ’s backing of Donald Trump is hurting Tesla ’s struggling EV business in Europe

    MerchantsOfMisery ,

    All the rich folks I know avoid Tesla like the plague because they prefer some level of political ambiguity while driving. Even if they’re driving a $500k Porsche, it doesn’t come with the "this company is proudly run by a right wing asshole everyone has heard of" vibe, just the regular "I’m rich, SEE!" vibe.

    mipadaitu ,

    Got some bad news for you…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

    dmalteseknight ,
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    Eh when the founders are dead long enough, people stop caring. Ex: Chanel

    ShepherdPie ,

    Henry Ford was a Nazi sympathizer as well but that’s long in the past.

    MerchantsOfMisery ,

    Average person has no clue about this compared to Musk. Not surprised that the founder of a luxury brand is a bastard though.

    kungen ,

    It’s different when they’ve been dead for a long time. If we avoided anything that has had connections to the NSDAP, the majority of old German brands would be boycotted.

    AlbertSpangler ,

    That’s a worry! I’ll stick with my trusty Ford!

    …What?

    gallopingsnail ,
    @gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    …wikipedia.org/…/List_of_companies_involved_in_th…

    Dawg, it’s so many companies you interact with on a regular basis, often without even knowing it. Times change.

    Hope you haven’t taken a Thyssen-Krupp elevator lately or gotten an X-ray from a Siemens machine, otherwise you’re supporting Nazis 😡 /s

    blady_blah ,

    The rich people I’ve spoken with just don’t think they’re premium enough. It had nothing to do with politics. Most of their politics line up conservative anyway.

    Bishma ,
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    I haven’t broken through the paywall, can someone explain why a drugstore chain is being quoted? Do German drugstores sell cars or run deliveries or something?

    Kazumara ,

    I’m afraid there isn’t that much meat to the story… Here I’ll give you the quotes relating to Rossmann, the rest is padding or embedding context if we want to be charitable.

    “Elon Musk makes no secret of his support for Donald Trump. Trump has repeatedly described climate change as a hoax—this attitude is in stark contrast to Tesla’s mission to contribute to environmental protection through the production of electric cars,” Raoul Rossmann, Rossmann’s spokesman for the management, said in a statement.

    Thirty-four of Rossmann’s 800 vehicles are Teslas, the company’s spokesperson told Fortune. The company plans to continue using those vehicles for “sustainability and resource conservation.”

    Rossmann is the first major business to cite Musk’s political stance as a reason to halt future Tesla purchases. Other European companies have dropped orders from Tesla for different reasons.

    Wispy2891 ,

    Elon never cared a bit about environment and shit, that’s why he wants to land on some other inhabitable planet.

    It just happened that there was a void in the market and Tesla was at the right time, introducing expensive luxury ev with long range when the only other options were expensive shitboxes with limited range. Suddenly there was an option to get something that would be worth owning at that price range.

    If he really cared the environment he would push for a small and light city vehicle instead of a huge heavy truck with a giant battery that can’t be used for actual work

    don ,

    The chain has a fleet of 800 vehicles, 34 of which are teslas. It seems as though they were going to replace the others with teslas over time, but due to Elon, they decided not to.

    They also say they will maintain the teslas they do have, so as to be environmentally responsible.

    Sam_Bass ,

    /shocked

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