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blady_blah ,

I’m target demo for a Tesla. Upper middle class techie. My next car will be an EV and I actually like Teslas. I like a lot of things about them but I will absolutely not buy one while Elon is in charge of the company. Fuck that guy. He’s not getting any of my money.

zipzoopaboop ,

Ditto. I have 3 requirements above the current cars though:

  • Better range
  • more physical controls, everything that isn’t media or GPs needs physical buttons
  • Elon must not profit
SkyezOpen ,

Add “real steering wheel” to that cause that futuristic airliner yoke shit would absolutely kill me the first time I try to cross over to turn.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The physical control is a big one. I’m not using software capable of driving a vehicle that’s made and controlled by a Nazi.

RagingRobot ,

I got a Cadillac lyric instead and I love it

capital ,

Same. Upper middle class and work for a large hyperacaler.

Tesla was the only one excluded from my recent EV search. Loving the Polestar 2 so far.

OpenPassageways ,

Same here, even with all the BS around Twitter and his political views… I WAS still considering a Tesla, but with the pro-Trump PAC and the deep fakes on Xitter it’s just another level of bullshit.

Hoping he gets forced out in the next year because I also don’t want to buy from a dealership, which doesn’t leave me a lot of options for an EV.

mosiacmango ,

The tesla shareholders just approved a 55 billion dollar bonus that a court had previously struck down.

Hes not getting voted out. This is what they want.

Sunroc ,

Same demographic, but sadly I already bought a model Y cause I wanted a 7 seater with a 5 star crash safety rating…

Needless to say the car isn’t good enough to compromise on my morals moving forward and the next car will probably be that VW Buzz. That thing looks so fun.

PhotatoMan ,

Bought one too. I have a model 3 which I really enjoy and would probably have bought another Tesla next if it wasn’t for Elon going mad.

So sadly no more Tesla for me. Buzz is nice, as is the beemer i4.

PugEnjoyer ,
@PugEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Same here, some friends of mine really got into car hacking with Teslas in particular and I was looking forward to sharing more hobbies with them. But at this point, I’d be embarrassed as hell to tell anyone I intentionally bought a Tesla, even a used one. And besides, if I really want the “sleek futuristic electric car by the dedicated electric car company”, Rivian exists (unless their CEO is somehow worse than Elon 😬😩)

MammyWhammy ,

If he is worse than Elon, he at least has the decency to hide it.

systemguy_64 ,

Rivian needs a Y/3 competitor. It’s over 100k for a Rivian in Canada. A Y is 54k, a 3 is just under 50k to qualify for federal and provincial incentives.

PugEnjoyer ,
@PugEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah, I said that without looking up the prices for a Rivian and remembered why I’m not actually considering getting one 😭. The world just still isn’t ready for an all electric car manufacturer that is both affordable and not run by a manchild smdh

mosiacmango ,

BYD has its PHEV Shark truck starting at $54k. Its something like 500+ mile mixed range, with a 60 mile electric only range.

Not exactly the same, but still a lot of truck for much less. They will be making them in Mexico, so tariffs shouldn’t apply.

GiddyGap ,

I was saving for a Tesla until Elon went off the rails. What a douche. Not supporting that.

auzy ,

Yep… People use Tesla as an example of EVs failing

It’s not falling because of EVs, it’s falling because the guy running it is so dodgy that consumers can’t be sure they’re not going to fuck things up in the future.

It also doesn’t help that Elon lies about things he doesn’t need to (even stupid things like calling the cave diver a pedo) and that makes potential consumers wonder what else he’s lying about.

Here in Australia too, only the gen 2 powerwalls are still available too,

demizerone ,

Tesla would be right to dump this clown, but he ain’t leaving without killing Tesla first.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

They’re all his friends and family who Musk made very rich. They’re not gonna dump him.

jj4211 ,

72% of stakeholder vote favored giving him a stupid huge bonus, even stupid by rich billionaire standards. This was after TSLA took a hit and their sales were down and their unit prices were way down.

Tesla’s all in on Musk. Probably easier to accept as someone who never did like their particular cars and if anything is a bit annoyed that the traditional car companies felt compelled to copy the stupid parts of Tesla when making their EVs. I can see if someone liked Tesla how they could hope to evict Musk… Just not going to happen.

Dead_or_Alive ,

After that vote I will enjoy seeing the shareholders should get exactly what they voted for.

Buddahriffic ,

That’s mostly institutional investors. I suspect it was actually a reward for ruining Twitter.

OhNoMoreLemmy ,

The problem is that Tesla is a meme stock. It’s stupidly overpriced for a car company with such little production.

They could get rid of musk and try to turn it into a normal company with solid fundamentals but this would remove its meme status and crash the share price anyway.

There’s no way to fix Tesla without burning it’s stock price to the ground, so anyone involved is just going to try to ride the crazy train as long as possible.

Come on Elon, make the Cybertruck 2 and really fuck everything up.

capital ,

No, it’s an AI company now bro. Trust me.

Cruxifux ,

I hate that becoming a certain level of rich can guarantee that you will never not be rich even if you’re the dumbest motherfucker that ever tried to do business.

Zetta ,

Maybe it doesn’t reach your criteria of a “certain level”, but there’s definitely stories of people winning significant amounts of money in the lottery and being broke years later because they are morons.

ripcord ,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

Right. You do have to still be smart enough in some way to retain the money/power. Or lucky/connected enough (daddy is watching out that dumb-as-rocks junior doesn’t blow all of his $100m, etc)

barsquid ,

You need to reach the level and get the nepotism engine to collect you. A lotto winner could probably attend an event and sieg heil in front of Peter Thiel. That’s like calling a taxi into nepotism. Typical lotto winners just spend it all frivolously instead.

cuerdo ,

It doesn’t, Cris Rock explained it very well:

Kobe Bryant is rich, he gets a paycheck of 100 mil per year.

Now, wealthy is the guy that signs that check.

mPony ,

Chris Rock is a pretty smart motherfucker.

rezifon ,

We should make sure he gets the big piece of chicken

Cruxifux ,

You’re not seriously comparing a lotto winner to someone with global oligarch levels of wealth right now, are you? I have more respect for your intelligence than that my man.

Kazumara ,

Depends on how you count it. Would you consider Steve Jobs to be rich? Seems to me that he managed to find a way to graduate from his status as a rich person with his stupidity.

Cruxifux ,

I mean he was rich, wasn’t he? Did he die poor somehow? I don’t know enough about him.

Kazumara ,

No no, I’m just saying sometimes they are dumb enough to kill themselves. That’s one way they sometimes manage to get out being rich 😂

doodledup ,

Stop posting US politics everywhere. This isn’t World News. This isn’t even news.

blackbelt352 ,

Unfortunately US Billionaires have a lot of societal impact outside of the US. They don’t care about the arbitrary borders that bound us plebians, they have enough money that the borders functionally don’t exist.

Simulation6 ,

Not a problem, he will just sue everyone that did not buy a Tesla.

MerchantsOfMisery ,

All the rich folks I know avoid Tesla like the plague because they prefer some level of political ambiguity while driving. Even if they’re driving a $500k Porsche, it doesn’t come with the "this company is proudly run by a right wing asshole everyone has heard of" vibe, just the regular "I’m rich, SEE!" vibe.

mipadaitu ,

Got some bad news for you…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

dmalteseknight ,
@dmalteseknight@programming.dev avatar

Eh when the founders are dead long enough, people stop caring. Ex: Chanel

ShepherdPie ,

Henry Ford was a Nazi sympathizer as well but that’s long in the past.

MerchantsOfMisery ,

Average person has no clue about this compared to Musk. Not surprised that the founder of a luxury brand is a bastard though.

kungen ,

It’s different when they’ve been dead for a long time. If we avoided anything that has had connections to the NSDAP, the majority of old German brands would be boycotted.

AlbertSpangler ,

That’s a worry! I’ll stick with my trusty Ford!

…What?

gallopingsnail ,
@gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_companies_involved_in_th…

Dawg, it’s so many companies you interact with on a regular basis, often without even knowing it. Times change.

Hope you haven’t taken a Thyssen-Krupp elevator lately or gotten an X-ray from a Siemens machine, otherwise you’re supporting Nazis 😡 /s

blady_blah ,

The rich people I’ve spoken with just don’t think they’re premium enough. It had nothing to do with politics. Most of their politics line up conservative anyway.

TheFriar ,

lol good

Bishma ,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I haven’t broken through the paywall, can someone explain why a drugstore chain is being quoted? Do German drugstores sell cars or run deliveries or something?

Kazumara ,

I’m afraid there isn’t that much meat to the story… Here I’ll give you the quotes relating to Rossmann, the rest is padding or embedding context if we want to be charitable.

“Elon Musk makes no secret of his support for Donald Trump. Trump has repeatedly described climate change as a hoax—this attitude is in stark contrast to Tesla’s mission to contribute to environmental protection through the production of electric cars,” Raoul Rossmann, Rossmann’s spokesman for the management, said in a statement.

Thirty-four of Rossmann’s 800 vehicles are Teslas, the company’s spokesperson told Fortune. The company plans to continue using those vehicles for “sustainability and resource conservation.”

Rossmann is the first major business to cite Musk’s political stance as a reason to halt future Tesla purchases. Other European companies have dropped orders from Tesla for different reasons.

don ,

The chain has a fleet of 800 vehicles, 34 of which are teslas. It seems as though they were going to replace the others with teslas over time, but due to Elon, they decided not to.

They also say they will maintain the teslas they do have, so as to be environmentally responsible.

index ,

The only thing news like this does is to boost these idiots visibility and bring views to these websites. Don’t post this shit

OlinOfTheHillPeople ,

You know that people can see your comment history, right?

index ,

Yes, do you?

cynthorpe ,

It’s hurting it in the USA too. All the lefties I know who own Teslas are pretty much ashamed of them now. None of the maga are suddenly going to start buying electric cars.

ShaggySnacks ,

Maybe they should buy EVs to own the libs.

cynthorpe ,

That would… make me angry. So angry. Noooo…. Don’t!

🫣

saltesc ,

Really? It’s pa-ywalled, but based on just the title; really?

It’s not the poor reputation Teslas have at being cars? Recalls, performance, ongoing costs, longevity, manufacturing quality…etc. But, it’s X instead?

Jimbabwe ,

The cars are actually great, unfortunately

nokturne213 ,

Are they though?

Viking_Hippie ,

Nah. They’re pretty and quick, but they have the price tag of a brand new Jaguar and the build quality of a 1980s Yugo.

nokturne213 ,

So their build quality has improved recently?

Rayspekt ,

Why not both?

madjo ,

I’m actually in the market for a new car, and it’s going to be an EV, but Tesla is not on my short list. (not just because of Musk, also because I think those cars are hideous, and I really dislike how a single iPad is used for everything. I need some physical buttons, especially for the airco unit) Instead I’m looking at the Renault Scenic or the Kia EV3.

PunchingWood ,

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    protist , (edited )

    Especially now that a lot of countries are starting to notice the drain on energy networks.

    Lmao

    But I doubt they’re really “struggling”.

    You don’t have to sit there and imagine things, because they are a publicly traded company…

    It’s clear Musk’s politics have turned off a ton of potential customers worldwide. Tesla sales are falling off, while eg the Hyundai Ioniq is setting sales records in the US

    PunchingWood ,

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    protist ,

    Tesla’s market share in Europe declined from 27.8% to 19.9% year over year as of this past March. Tesla’s sales in Europe fell 36% while BMW and Volvo had 60% and 70% growth in EV sales over the same period, respectively.

    whichev.net/…/tesla-tops-european-car-sales-chart…

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    protist ,

    Would-be Tesla buyers snub company as Musk’s reputation dips

    Infynis ,
    @Infynis@midwest.social avatar

    When every other company manufacturing the same thing as you is making massive gains, because the whole market is expanding, and you’re suddenly posting losses, that’s going to raise so questions

    MerchantsOfMisery ,

    Is it weird that a part of me wishes I was as confident in myself being right about stuff as you are about yourself?

    takeda ,

    LOL, seems like you are only are aware of Tesla losses and try to explain it that it is because a power grid can’t handle it.

    In reality it is that Tesla is losing customers which are fleeing to other manufacturers.

    As for the energy consumption, for example in California 25% of new car sales are BHEV. Currently electric cars use 1% of the power and the estimates are that by 2035 (when sales of new ICE vehicles will be banned) this will go to 4%.

    Viking_Hippie ,

    Since these cars easily take up the same as an entire household overnight.

    You mean the same as the household take up overnight where most are sleeping and have turned almost everything off? That’s not actually a lot…

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    “lots of people are buying Tesla’s”

    “People are stepping away from fully electric vehicles.”

    Which is it? Are Tesla’s strong or weak? Or are we somehow in a situation where EVs are weak and Tesla is strong?

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